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meanwhile, Biden Brags About Rigging The Ukranian Political System


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Yovanovitch, testifying under oath, stated that she did not ever speak about Hunter Biden’s role with Burisma with the State Department, but a short time later had to admit that she actually had been prepped by the State Department regarding Hunter Biden's role with Burisma prior to her confirmation hearings.

So already we have a Democrat witness caught in making false statements to Congress, the exact same thing that Roger Stone is currently facing many years in prison for.

What do you think is the chance that Ms. Yovanovitch will be indicted and tried for her lies?

oh right, CNN thinks Obama never lied and Trump never tells the truth
 
Oh, and I have been right. For three years, I have been right. Not bragging. Thank you very much.

These past three years have been constant mayhem, upheaval and chaos, all eminating from the WH. Only one person on this board predicted exactly that, and it wasn't you.
 
Would love to see Trump answer questions for 11 hours straight in sworn testimony, like Hillary did. Not a bad idea, kudos to you.

Still waiting for the first shred of first hand evidence. Being butt hurt doesn't count.

Yes, yes, I must be blind not to see it, um no.
 
Still waiting for the first shred of first hand evidence. Being butt hurt doesn't count. Yes, yes, I must be blind not to see it, um no.

Sit tight Zona, we're only two days in. The 'first hand' type witnesses come next week, though most of them are running scared, intimidated by Trump not to show up.

If nothing else, ask yourself this simple question. If the likes Giuliani, Mulvaney, Perry, Pompao could wash Trump clean, wouldn't he be driving them up to Congress in a limo, with his foot on the gas? Of course he would. But he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar on Ukraine, it will be difficult to keep the truth from being exposed, as it should be.
 
These past three years have been constant mayhem, upheaval and chaos, all eminating from the WH. Only one person on this board predicted exactly that, and it wasn't you.

LOL.

In these past three years, my 401k has gone through the roof. My company cannot find good people because the are already employed. We are not sending our boys into crazy *** wars. The wall is getting built.

I am pretty happy.

Thanks for asking.
 
Sit tight Zona, we're only two days in. The 'first hand' type witnesses come next week, though most of them are running scared, intimidated by Trump not to show up.

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The walls are closing in. The noose is tightening. Blah, blah, blah, blah,blah,,,,,,ad infinitum.
 
In these past three years, my 401k has gone through the roof. My company cannot find good people because the are already employed. We are not sending our boys into crazy *** wars. The wall is getting built. I am pretty happy. Thanks for asking.

I'm glad things are going well for you and others. Unfortunately, the fact the economy is strong does not allow the President to commit crimes. It's like arguing the CEO should be able to do as he wishes - disregard the law, cook the books, shake down suppliers - cause the numbers are up and the employees are making good money. It doesn't work that way. But I'm glad you're doing well and that you're happy. That's always a good thing.
 
I guess my worldview of how a President is performing goes beyond economic indicators.

For instance, in my view, we have blood on our hands due to Trump selling out to Putin in northern Syria. I would add that to his impeachable offenses, sadly, there are many.

This just in.... from Trump's 'beautiful, wonderful' ceasefire that he was so quick to applaud a short week ago, as he bro-hugged Erdogan, yet another bloody dictator. So yeah, I'm glad your 401k is up, that's awesome. But what Trump's been doing as President cannot be ignored, be it in Syria, Ukraine or by undermining our upcoming elections, as he did in 2016 by welcoming Russian involvement. All of that matters, like it or not.

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Massive attacks underway against the kurds in northern syria. No ceasefire. Total nonsenses there is. US military officials tell me they are ashamed, “sickened.” It’s cold now outside. What about the families, and kids, out of their homes? <a href="https://twitter.com/OARichardEngel?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OARichardEngel</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AmericanBetrayal?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AmericanBetrayal</a></p>— Richard Engel (@RichardEngel) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichardEngel/status/1195865204850122752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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Headline on Fox News tonight....maybe some of you will start to listen to a more rational take on this, rather than buying the spin coming out of the Trump orbit.

Pence adviser says Trump request that Ukraine open Biden probe was 'unusual and inappropriate'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex...leak-was-told-eu-envoy-sondland-was-a-problem

An adviser to Vice President Mike Pence told House impeachment investigators this month that President Trump's request for Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky to open an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his family "struck me as unusual and inappropriate" and "shed some light on possible other motivations behind a security assistance hold."

The three House committees overseeing the impeachment inquiry against Trump released hundreds of pages of closed-door testimony by Jennifer Williams, a special adviser to Pence on Europe and Russia, and Tim Morrison, the former senior director for European affairs at the National Security Council. Morrison was interviewed Oct. 31 and Williams was interviewed Nov. 7.

Both Williams and Morrison were listening in on the July 25 phone call, which was flagged by an intelligence community whistleblower and has become the center of the impeachment inquiry. House Democrats say that aid was withheld from Ukraine until its government launched investigations into Biden, his son Hunter and their dealings in the eastern European county -- particularly the younger Biden's work with Ukrainian natural gas company Burisma Holdings.

Investigators also met Saturday with Office of Management and Budget (OMB) official Mark Sandy, who was involved in key meetings about the nearly $400 million aid package Congress had approved for Ukraine.
 
Headline on Fox News tonight....maybe some of you will start to listen to a more rational take on this, rather than buying the spin coming out of the Trump orbit.

Pence adviser says Trump request that Ukraine open Biden probe was 'unusual and inappropriate'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ex...leak-was-told-eu-envoy-sondland-was-a-problem

So what, Everybody has an opinion. Been that way for over 200 years.

What else do you got?

Noose tightening. Walls closing in.................blah.
 
The Stalinists kangaroo court show trial just shows how much they fear Trump is on his way to winning another term.

Its all Kabuki theater for the Deep State Globalists in a panic about losing their state of perpetual war that feeds their EU masters.

They hate a strong America and are willing to ride this treasonous coup attempt to save their one world socialist utopia.
 
It's funny watching Tibs get his hopes up again.

It's sad so many of you put your blind love of this President ahead of the country and the Constitution. I'm sure you have your reasons for doing so.
 
It's sad so many of you put your blind love of this President ahead of the country and the Constitution. I'm sure you have your reasons for doing so.

Well perhaps those reasons have something to do with the fact that Trump has proven to be correct about 90% of the time and the Democrats out to get him have been proven totally incorrect or outright deliberate lies virtually 100% of the time. Only someone capable of completely ignoring all forms of evidence and past history could think like you do and remain so self confident about it. It's a fascinating character study really. You have been on the wrong side of every.....single.....attempt to get Trump. Every alleged wrong doing that you have pinned your hopes on have all proven to be absolutely false so far.

You may want to do a little self reflection and ask yourself how you can remain so smug and self assured with an almost 0% track record of being accurate on anything to do with Trump. Just some food for through as you throw around accusations towards people here whose opinions in contrast to yours, have been dead accurate on at almost every turn. Seems very strange to me. But it's almost admirable in a way to keep continuing on with such assurance in the face of constant failure.
 
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LOL

"The Constitution"


Lets see, Trump is being denied due process, he cant confront his accusers

He cant have any attorney representing him at these hearings

Witnesses cant be cross examined to determine their credibility

Its obvious The Presidents civil rights UNDER THE CONSTITUTION are being abused by this sham of an investigation

Remember when it was THE RUSSIANS! THE RUSSIANS! THE RUSSIANS!?

THey ran out of collusion so they make up a new story, LMAO
 
It's sad so many of you put your blind love of this President ahead of the country and the Constitution. I'm sure you have your reasons for doing so.


Typical Trump hater. Throw whatever absurd accusation or lie you can think of then go on to the next one...because it's all you got.

Blind love is exactly what you tards had for Obama. You know it's true.

What do you think of this democrats comments?

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama...more-to-punch-back-at-russia-than-bush-obama/

Dem Leader: Give Trump Credit, He’s Done More to ‘Punch Back’ at Russia Than Bush, Obama

Posted at 4:30 pm on November 16, 2019 by Nick Arama


President Donald Trump is simply not given the credit by a mostly antagonistic media for the things he has achieved, from helping to build an incredible economy to actually taking concrete and substantive steps to further American interests on other domestic and foreign policy.

But in a case of very interesting timing, he just got some important praise from a very unexpected source, Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) the vice-chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.



Warner was being interviewed on PBS’ “Firing Line” with Margaret Hoover on Friday when he gave Trump credit for allowing the U.S. to “punch back” and use its “offensive capabilities” in response to Russian cyber attacks, saying that it was a lot better under Trump than under Barack Obama or George Bush.





“There are two main issues: There is the integrity of the election infrastructure, and then there’s the disinformation campaigns,” Hoover said. “In your view, which is more important?”

“I think they’re equally important and I think we have gotten better in both areas,” Warner responded. “To give the Trump administration some credit here, [they allowed] for us to punch back in the cyber domain, which, both under Obama and Bush, we were reluctant to do.”

“You just said you want to give the Trump administration credit for going on the offense in the cyber domain,” Hoover responded. “There are reports that, in 2018, the United States took an offensive posture in cyber and actually was able to shut down Russian troll farms.”

“I’m not going to comment on the specifics,” Warner responded. “I can’t comment on things that fall into the intelligence realm, in terms of specific actions. What I can comment on is that President Trump made it easier for the United States government to use some of our offensive capabilities.”

He indicated that for decades there was a fear to go offensive because of possible retaliation. So basically the U.S. didn’t, which is a pretty ridiculous response. But that was the hallmark of the Obama administration, the failure to ever pull the trigger.


“Consequently, I feel like, for many years, particularly our near-peer adversaries, like Russia and China — they were able to attack America in the cyber domain with very little fear of us punching back,” Warner concluded on the issue. “I think we’ve taken off some of those restraints. I think that is good, long term. We need to realize these challenges, particularly in the cyber domain, will be where the first shots of 21st century conflict will take place.”

Gee, sure doesn’t sound much like Trump is a Russian asset, does it?

But this is just one of the many things that blows apart that fiction that media/Democrats have pushed for almost three years.

Indeed it was always Obama bending over, being flexible, if you will, for Russia.

Obama drew a “red line” and did nothing in Russia-backed Syria in response to chemical attacks, Trump dropped a bomb on them. And when fired upon by Russians in Syria, Trump dropped more bombs and took out a few hundred Russians.

Obama failed to provide lethal aid to Ukraine when they were invaded by Russia, Trump had to come in for them to get the lethal aid, specifically Javelin anti-tank missiles to help against the Russians.

Trump also built up NATO by demanding that partner nations live up to their commitments to pay their fair shares, getting $100 billion more for its defense, for which he was praised by the NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg. He delegated more money to the European Deterrence Initiative to help protect the European states bordering Russia including Poland and the Baltic states.

Trump passed more sanctions against Russia and booted more Russian officials out of the country.

All of this deserves a lot more attention and it’s good that Warner got some of it out there. The interesting question is given the rabid partisanship at this time, why is Warner piping in with this very significant truth?
 
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^^^^^^
Well Tibby???

That's right, go on to your next lie.
 
Make no mistake, its you they fear, they want to put down the peasant rebellion that got Trump elected

They want CIVIL WAR? Bring it on *******!

I like Trumps quote, "Its not me they hate, its you, Im just in the way"

Fight back! Dont let them get away with anything!

We shall fight on the beaches

We shall fight in the fields and in the streets

We shall fight in the hills

We shall never surrender


WOLVERINES!
 
^^^^^^
Well Tibby???

That's right, go on to your next lie.

Fact don't really compute in the Liberal mind. Only feelings matter. One thing I've learned in my latter years is that trying to convince Liberals of anything based on evidence instead of emotional feelings is an exercise in futility. They would rather close their eyes and ears if the facts are plainly in view just to protect their feelings based arguments. I suppose it's always been that way.
 
BREAKING NEWS

Des Moines Register IOWA poll: Buttigieg 25%, Warren 16%, Biden & Sanders 15%



Bwahahahahaha


Bill Richardson: Democrats Heading Toward Brokered Convention, Could Nominate Michelle Obama

Appearing on CNN, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) predicted the 2020 Democrat presidential primary is heading toward a brokered convention and suggested delegates could nominate former first lady Michelle Obama to face off against President Donald Trump in 2020.


Michelle/Mayor Pete 2020

 
I've had a single issue with Trump from the very beginning. Nothing has changed one iota since then. It is the fact I am convinced he's beholden to Putin and the Russian mafia, and that is an incredibly precarious and unprecedented position for the country to be in.

You can call me crazy - and you do - that is fine and understandable. I base my opinion on ongoing research dating back to the 80's & 90's and everything I've read and seen thus far these past three years has just strengthened this view.

The only people that matter in Trump's orbit, as far as who he is most afraid of, is Putin and the Russian mob boss Mogilevich. Since the Russian mafia and the Russian government are intertwined and co-exist in a fundamental manner, it is my view that Trump is a Russian asset, and has been that since the day he got elected.

Trump's shady business dealings and contacts with Russians, including real estate deals, illicit financing and money-laundering, led Putin to hand-pick Trump in the election, helping him get elected through the hacking of DNC servers, released via wikileaks. They will be back in full force for the 2020 election, and Trump has welcomed that assistance. Today, this same orbit of Putin & the Russian mafia is in play with Trump's activities in Ukraine. The names are always the same, their connections with Trump, Giuliani, Manafort are well documented.

The key name to remember is Dmitry Firtash, who has deep ties to both Mogilevich/Putin and to Trump, Giuliani and Manafort.

I live in a part of the world where Russian mob influence in politics is real and palpable. I have numerous contacts in diplomatic circles & investigative journalists, who have been uncovering these leads for decades. You can mock me, say I've been wrong about everything regarding Trump, that is fine. I understand how strange it is I've been posting here for years harping on the Trump-Russian connection. The fact is, none of that has gone away, nothing has changed.

All the rest, when it comes to Trump, the cowtowing to the radical right and white supremacists, his bellicose and belligerent behaviour, his treatment of women, minorities and gold star families...well none of that helps improve my opinion of him, to say the least. But it is his deep-rooted ties to the Russian mob and Putin that is my gravest concern. I'm glad the economy is doing well, that 401k's are up, that unemployment is down. Those are real, tangible things that are important. But glossing over the economy is simply not enough to ignore what Trump is all about, hidden from the public eye.

I'm not even sure why I post this stuff here, I shouldn't, and I won't. I just hope you stay open-minded about these issues, and be wary of accepting things at face value.
 
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Gee, sure doesn’t sound much like Trump is a Russian asset, does it?

You can quote all the fluff pieces in the world if it makes you feel better. Look at what Trump is actually doing. He is undermining years of well-established American foreign policy around the world. He is doing Putin's bidding by undermining NATO and the EU. He has handed over Syria to Putin, with no strings attached. He is playing right into Putin's hand in Ukraine, giving Putin what he truly desires, control over gas and oil pipelines serving western Europe. Trump has doubled-down on sugar-coating Russian involvement in the elections, making a mockery of our national intelligence and law enforcement agencies.

But yeah, Trump passed a few sanctions and kicked out some Russians early on. These were token measures, to stave off criticism. Other than that, Putin has gotten a 1000x return on his investment.
 
I've had a single issue with Trump from the very beginning. Nothing has changed one iota since then. It is the fact I am convinced he's beholden to Putin and the Russian mafia, and that is an incredibly precarious and unprecedented position for the country to be in.

You can call me crazy - and you do - that is fine and understandable. I base my opinion on ongoing research dating back to the 80's & 90's and everything I've read and seen thus far these past three years has just strengthened this view.

The only people that matter in Trump's orbit, as far as who he is most afraid of, is Putin and the Russian mob boss Mogilevich. Since the Russian mafia and the Russian government are intertwined and co-exist in a fundamental manner, it is my view that Trump is a Russian asset, and has been that since the day he got elected.

Trump's shady business dealings and contacts with Russians, including real estate deals, illicit financing and money-laundering, led Putin to hand-pick Trump in the election, helping him get elected through the hacking of DNC servers, released via wikileaks. They will be back in full force for the 2020 election, and Trump has welcomed that assistance. Today, this same orbit of Putin & the Russian mafia is in play with Trump's activities in Ukraine. The names are always the same, their connections with Trump, Giuliani, Manafort are well documented.

The key name to remember is Dmitry Firtash, who has deep ties to both Mogilevich/Putin and to Trump, Giuliani and Manafort.

I live in a part of the world where Russian mob influence in politics is real and palpable. I have numerous contacts in diplomatic circles & investigative journalists, who have been uncovering these leads for decades. You can mock me, say I've been wrong about everything regarding Trump, that is fine. I understand how strange it is I've been posting here for years harping on the Trump-Russian connection. The fact is, none of that has gone away, nothing has changed.

All the rest, when it comes to Trump, the cowtowing to the radical right and white supremacists, his bellicose and belligerent behaviour, his treatment of women, minorities and gold star families...well none of that helps improve my opinion of him, to say the least. But it is his deep-rooted ties to the Russian mob and Putin that is my gravest concern. I'm glad the economy is doing well, that 401k's are up, that unemployment is down. Those are real, tangible things that are important. But glossing over the economy is simply not enough to ignore what Trump is all about, hidden from the public eye.

I'm not even sure why I post this stuff here, I shouldn't, and I won't. I just hope you stay open-minded about these issues, and be wary of accepting things at face value.

If any of that were actually true, don't you think Mueller would have uncovered it? Seriously as much as the Dems want to bring him down they would have found something anything with real evidence. Particularly with the bulk of the MSM helping them. I think your view is colored by your view in Hungary. I don't mean that as an insult just that you are surrounded by people with a natural and reasonable distrust of anything relating to the old Soviet Republic(not that it ever was a true Republic). If you were here seeing what we see daily and getting a different perspective from other non Eurocentric or liberal sources and would truly look at what Trump has done on the positive side I think your outlook would be different. He is not the monster you make him out to be nor have his actions done anything but help minorities and women. You can paint his words anyway you want but his actions tell the real story.
 
These past three years have been constant mayhem, upheaval and chaos

I know, right? Those ******* conservatives and their ***** hats, and protests, and Antifa physical assaults, and attacking those wearing MAGA hats, or red hats, blocking traffic, breaking ****, burning ****, and screaming at the door to the Supreme Court, and making up hate crimes, and making up allegations about collusion, and forcing the disgusting open border policy, and protecting rapist illegals, and on and on and on and on.

******* conservatives.

Hold on ...
 
I've had a single issue with Trump from the very beginning. Nothing has changed one iota since then. It is the fact I am convinced he's beholden to Putin and the Russian mafia, and that is an incredibly precarious and unprecedented position for the country to be in.

Beholden to Russia?!?!?!?

Trump has frequently described himself as heavy-handed on Russia, saying in April, “probably nobody’s been tougher on Russia than Donald Trump,” and often arguing that the Russians didn’t want him to win the presidency for that reason.

Indeed, some of the toughest sanctions in years have fallen on Russia’s elite under the Trump administration. Sanctions imposed over Russia’s invasion of Crimea in 2014 have not been lifted, Trump approved the sale of lethal weapons to Ukraine — something Barack Obama did not do — and he has ordered missiles fired at Syrian military sites, openly targeting strategic operations and allies of Russia.


A "fluff piece" from that highly pro-Trump site, NBC.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/16/her...tough-on-russia--and-where-hes-backed-do.html

You apparently don't see that YOU are the exact equivalent of those who said in 2010 that Obama was a Kenyan communist plant, designed to bring down the United States. You used to mock people with these imbecilic, outlandish opinions unsupported by a single piece of real evidence. Conspiracy theorists, whack jobs, nutcases, somebody who needs to get a ******* life.

Now, you're that guy, Tibs.
 
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