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The Steelers, Panthers, Saints Are The Only Teams Projected To Take a Quarterback According to Oddschecker

Not that I know much about these QBs, but can you give us examples of why they're sure-fire 1st rounders? Anything will suffice. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm genuinely curious.

IMO

Pickett doesn't have elite arm talent, but that doesn't mean he has a weak arm. He has plenty of arm strength to make all the NFL throws with velocity. He knows how to read defenses and goes through his progressions quickly, and throws with great accuracy, timing, and anticipation in rhythm. He's also mobile, not a scrambler per SE as he can do that if needed, but can escape the pocket and keep the play alive looking down field while throwing accurate on the move. Shows himself to be a leader his teammates follow. The biggest gripes against him are his fumbles, which most were due to how he holds the football when moving around in the pocket to escape pressure, and I believe is correctable. He also on occasions leaves clean pockets when all he has to do is shift his position in the pocket to reset and make the throw, again I believe this is coachable. I do not worry about his hand size really due to his double jointed thumb that makes his hand measurement weird, but when measured holding the ball it's over 9 1/4.

Willis has elite arm talent, and escapability, combined with a difficulty to to tackle. Hard to guage pocket presence and pocket accuracy due to him playing with accountants, and running for his life on most drop backs, but he has shown accuracy, and when given time has shown the ability to cycle through progressions. This was few and far between, as he rarely had time and was trying to "carry the team" on his shoulders to make a play rather than what was given to him. Much of his accuracy issues come from mechanics, and much of that I believe is coachable. But I don't expect him to become a pocket passer fully in his career, and he somewhat reminds me of McNair in that he's thick and elusive even though he's only 6'0, but can make throws from the pocket and on the run. He's absolutely the biggest project, has the biggest potential to be a Mahomes or Allen, but also the potential to be an RG3 or cam newton or worse (guys whose legs stopped being helpful, and never got the passer part down completely to make up for the loss of reliance on legs, whether injury or NFL scheming them properly). He shows excellent character, a likeable personality, and guy that his teammates will love. He has intangibles that can't be taught, but it's all reliant on if he can fix his mechanics and his "I have to make a play myself always" play style.

Ridder has a strong arm, not elite, he showed the same type of throw at his pro day as Willis. He is a consummate and mature leader. Ridder desires to be the best to which his attitude will endear him to his teammates, and they will follow his lead. He shows the arm to make all the NFL throws with velocity, and he shows mostly consistent accuracy when throwing with time and anticipation in rhythm. He also has great mobility as he can scramble when necessary and escape pressure to make throws down field. His tape shows him going through progressions except on the rare/random occasion when he stares down a receiver, and he understands defensive schemes and how to attack them. Where he has problems is his footwork and mechanics as he doesn't always throw from a wide base, and clicks his heels on occasions or even throws flat footed which cause his sometimes baffling inaccuracy. He also uses touch too many times on throws when he needs to just rifle it. Things I also believe are coachable. He is a high character, and I believe is the type of player you would want leading your team.

I like Corral and Howell, but I believe they are just on the fringe, but would make sense for them to go late first (maybe I'll break them down as well at some point but this has already gone on so long)
 
Do you really feel Willis, Pickett, Corral or Ridder are first round talent? Glad that you'll be entertained watching the team you apparently support commit the cluster fu*k of this years draft.


I definately don't want a QB in any round. If they do end up taking one I won't jump or slice as I live on the ground floor and my knives are all put away.




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Well, none of us will be running to the podium with 5 seconds expired on their allotted time. I only hope whoever they chose, works out.
 
Beat me to it, some want failure so they can say they are right................




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Lol I don't want failure, I just differ in opinion, I want the Steelers to succeed, we just differ in our beliefs on QB. I'm not going to absolutely lose it and rant if the Steelers do not select a QB, but if they do, the other way is almost guaranteed by many here
 



Hear that? Two sports journalists (not scouts) said they want Pickett, so what more do you people need!?

And you'll blindly believe in Trubisky who's actually been in the NFL for a while, but it's not blind to want an unproven rookie! I can't stand this guy.



Throw enough S-H-I-T and some will stick.



Tune the talking heads out, it will be best for your long term health.



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IMO

Pickett doesn't have elite arm talent, but that doesn't mean he has a weak arm. He has plenty of arm strength to make all the NFL throws with velocity. He knows how to read defenses and goes through his progressions quickly, and throws with great accuracy, timing, and anticipation in rhythm. He's also mobile, not a scrambler per SE as he can do that if needed, but can escape the pocket and keep the play alive looking down field while throwing accurate on the move. Shows himself to be a leader his teammates follow. The biggest gripes against him are his fumbles, which most were due to how he holds the football when moving around in the pocket to escape pressure, and I believe is correctable. He also on occasions leaves clean pockets when all he has to do is shift his position in the pocket to reset and make the throw, again I believe this is coachable. I do not worry about his hand size really due to his double jointed thumb that makes his hand measurement weird, but when measured holding the ball it's over 9 1/4.

Willis has elite arm talent, and escapability, combined with a difficulty to to tackle. Hard to guage pocket presence and pocket accuracy due to him playing with accountants, and running for his life on most drop backs, but he has shown accuracy, and when given time has shown the ability to cycle through progressions. This was few and far between, as he rarely had time and was trying to "carry the team" on his shoulders to make a play rather than what was given to him. Much of his accuracy issues come from mechanics, and much of that I believe is coachable. But I don't expect him to become a pocket passer fully in his career, and he somewhat reminds me of McNair in that he's thick and elusive even though he's only 6'0, but can make throws from the pocket and on the run. He's absolutely the biggest project, has the biggest potential to be a Mahomes or Allen, but also the potential to be an RG3 or cam newton or worse (guys whose legs stopped being helpful, and never got the passer part down completely to make up for the loss of reliance on legs, whether injury or NFL scheming them properly). He shows excellent character, a likeable personality, and guy that his teammates will love. He has intangibles that can't be taught, but it's all reliant on if he can fix his mechanics and his "I have to make a play myself always" play style.

Ridder has a strong arm, not elite, he showed the same type of throw at his pro day as Willis. He is a consummate and mature leader. Ridder desires to be the best to which his attitude will endear him to his teammates, and they will follow his lead. He shows the arm to make all the NFL throws with velocity, and he shows mostly consistent accuracy when throwing with time and anticipation in rhythm. He also has great mobility as he can scramble when necessary and escape pressure to make throws down field. His tape shows him going through progressions except on the rare/random occasion when he stares down a receiver, and he understands defensive schemes and how to attack them. Where he has problems is his footwork and mechanics as he doesn't always throw from a wide base, and clicks his heels on occasions or even throws flat footed which cause his sometimes baffling inaccuracy. He also uses touch too many times on throws when he needs to just rifle it. Things I also believe are coachable. He is a high character, and I believe is the type of player you would want leading your team.

I like Corral and Howell, but I believe they are just on the fringe, but would make sense for them to go late first (maybe I'll break them down as well at some point but this has already gone on so long)

Thanks for the detailed analysis. You have any concerns about his hand size and the Pittsburgh weather?

I've read he has the smallest hands of any big prospect in a long time. I honestly don't know how much that will really affect him in the NFL, but something to consider I think.

In the end, I just hope it's somebody that benefits the team and they go on to do great things.
 
Thanks for the detailed analysis. You have any concerns about his hand size and the Pittsburgh weather?

I've read he has the smallest hands of any big prospect in a long time. I honestly don't know how much that will really affect him in the NFL, but something to consider I think.

In the end, I just hope it's somebody that benefits the team and they go on to do great things.

Of course

The concern imo there is his gloves and which ones he wears in bad weather tbh, he wore the same gloves the practice day it rained at the senior bowl as the nice days and didn't have his best day. Those types of gloves tend to get slippery the wet weather. I think he may need gloves specifically for bad weather (if such a QB glove exists) if he sticks with the gloves in those situations. Unlike Bridgewater coming out, I've never seen him throw without them. I think his double jointed thumb is the only reason his hand measurement is off, plus he's been playing in Pittsburgh for years now. I'm sure he's acclimated, and it didn't seem to affect him this year.
 
I think his double jointed thumb is the only reason his hand measurement is off, plus he's been playing in Pittsburgh for years now. I'm sure he's acclimated, and it didn't seem to affect him this year.

Good point, he was playing essentially a stone's throw away from Heinz.

How about the difference in circumference size in college compared to NFL footballs? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to draft stuff, were they using regulation NFL footballs for the workouts?
 
Good point, he was playing essentially a stone's throw away from Heinz.

How about the difference in circumference size in college compared to NFL footballs? I'm admittedly ignorant when it comes to draft stuff, were they using regulation NFL footballs for the workouts?

Lol honestly no clue, I'd assume all workouts use NFL regulation footballs. That would make sense to me at least.
 
I'd assume all workouts use NFL regulation footballs. That would make sense to me at least.

You'd think so, otherwise they're essentially helping set these guys up for failure if not.
 
And if you're wondering, I've wanted Jordan Davis the most from the beginning, but I'm not going to be angry about not getting him or taking a QB. I remember really wanting Andrew Billings and thinking we were nuts for passing on him three times, guess I was wrong on him. That happens, we may think we know, but we don't know anything compared to the information the Steelers are able to gather
We all know it’s one big crapshoot. It will be a epic meltdown as usual no matter who we pick. So much passion and know how with a ton of different personalities on this site....it can’t be helped

I remember the Andrew Billings year......so many people on here wanted him in the first with the dream being a second. Shock and awe when he lasted till the forth. And has bounced around to practice squads,and just signed with I think with his 4 th team.

For ***** and giggles when we signed Mitch here,I went back to the Steeler Nation history pages here and looked at the evaluations on the forum. Many people that said this was a historically poor QB draft class. Some of the evaluations of Mahomes are quite comically epic in hindsight of course 🙂 Mitch and the King of Massage were the other QBs taken in the first. There were mentions of the Browns getting the best QB in the second round. Deshone Kizer. Yep.

Then looked at the comments for 2018 year. Everyone laughed at Baker being picked first. Of course it’s the Browns so laughter is unavoidable. People praying that Lamar would be taken,so that we wouldn’t. Josh Allen....big arm...big bust potential. And not too surprising......the favorite QB for many esteemed posters.....Josh Rosen.

I’m no draft guru whatsoever. I try and be semi knowledgeable,and do a bit of research on some players. I just don’t watch the college game enough. Personally I would love to see Stingley somehow drop to us. There would have to be a big run on QB and WR for that to happen. McDuffie or Elam in that order. Would just love to have a stud CB.
 
One of the PG guys did a college stat comparison of this years QB'S and Rudolph. Rudolph won hands down. So, there's that.
 
One of the PG guys did a college stat comparison of this years QB'S and Rudolph. Rudolph won hands down. So, there's that.
A lot of people have been saying this QB class is not 1st round talent. Seems the talking heads need to force the QB position into the first round even when it's not deserved.
 
Andrew Fillippone is a clown. He didn't like the Trubisky pick-up from the beginning. He hasn't thrown one pass and he has condemned him. Pickett is better than Trubisky, whom went #2 overall? Let's see who has a better season in 2022.
 
One reason there would be to take a QB in the bottom of the first rather than the top of the second would be the 5 year contract. A successful QB's second contract will be massive. If you can put that off for one extra year (players drafted in the second round get a 4 year contract), that's a lot of savings. If a business man is running the show, that's what they will look at.
 
One reason there would be to take a QB in the bottom of the first rather than the top of the second would be the 5 year contract. A successful QB's second contract will be massive. If you can put that off for one extra year (players drafted in the second round get a 4 year contract), that's a lot of savings. If a business man is running the show, that's what they will look at.
I agree with you.......but these days a contract is surely not a contract . Any hint of success for a player and they want to renegotiate or sit out. When they underperform or do something stupid,not living up to their contract,I have yet to see a player to offer money back. 🙂
Of course on the flip side teams cut players with regularity with some showings of no loyalty whatsoever. Especially when it’s injury related. It’s no wonder that guaranteed contracts are the thing now. Frankly,I wondered what took so long.
 
We will be snagging a QB in Rd #1....
 
It's not feelings, just that none of these QBs are 1st round talent they are all longer term projects. On the other hand we are used to the Steelers reaching for players in the 1st round that are over drafted, see Edmunds or Bush for a current examples.
Bush? Despite his issues he was not a reach at the time.
 
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