The Steelers way is getting old

[bigben]

Tomlin should have been gone after his killer Bee's lost in a shootout to Blake Bortles.
He had the two best skill players from that era and a HOF QB, and still lost to a journeyman Bortles.

He now has the "rebuilding" built in excuse.

T.J Watt proves that despite feelgood fairytales about There is no I in Team, at the end of the day success comes from your stars. Lose one or two stars, you are a very different team. Like the Polamalu effect, there is a Watt effect. This is a totally different defense with and without Watt.

On the other side of the Ball, Lose your HOF QB and all the warts show up.
Pickens is and Friermuth are your special players. The rest are overpaid and overhyped. Your first round draft picks have been disasters so far and your overpaid DJ getting over a million every sunday to drop passes and start lockerroom drama. Claypool has looked much better the past 2 weeks, but still has a long way to go.

 

[xjx]

This team will suck until Tomlin is gone.

 

[SteelerSask2]

As just pointed out, this isn’t a Canada issue, it predates him. However, if fired today, Canada wouldn’t be employed by another NFL team for the rest of his career and would likely only land with a mediocre to below average college team. The NFL is a copycat league and the Steelers do absolutely nothing offensively that other successful teams do.

I agree to some extent. However, he is the Oc it's his offense unless during the interview he said in my offense we avoid seams and slants. And they were impressed.

 

[BLITZ]

It has not been the Steelers way in a very long time.
The Steelers way is to win in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Be physical. Run the ball. Let defense win.

We have been way to enamored with skill players and fantasy football

 

[SteelerSask2]

It has not been the Steelers way in a very long time.
The Steelers way is to win in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Be physical. Run the ball. Let defense win.

We have been way to enamored with skill players and fantasy football

I'm saying the Steelers way that continuity is the most important thing. The 3 coaches in 50 some years thing

 

[Djfan]

This team will suck until Tomlin is gone.

^^^THIS!!^^^

 

[Skott]

An interesting fact was pointed out by Mike Tirico (for once) last night: In college football, lineman can be three yards downfield before the pass; in the NFL it's only one yard. This is a big difference, and one to which Canada has not adapted very well, as evidenced by yet another ineligible man downfield penalty yesterday.

Canada wasn’t a very good coach in college either.

 

[Gildong Sack]

Those wr end around, oh and my favorite. The Double Reverse. Amazing. And can't forget those Najee sweep left/right plays. Just something brilliant about using your slowest RB with a bum foot on those.

Defenses have no idea how to defend this stuff, so they just stay close to our players all the time.

I think Canada has a Tecmo Bowl playsheet (8 plays) he went to that fake jet sweep hand it to Najee going the other way like 3 or 4 times in two back to back possessions.

 

[Steelr4evr]

I think Canada has a Tecmo Bowl playsheet (8 plays) he went to that fake jet sweep hand it to Najee going the other way like 3 or 4 times in two back to back possessions.

You know it makes me think they're trying to be awful by doing this same stuff for years.

Imagine an opposing defense watching film. The session must be short. If you're a division opponent, you already know the Steelers entire offense well.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

1. Who has been drafting/trading the Steeler's roster since 2008? Tomlin or Colbert? It seems as though Colbert had no trouble drafting and bringing in players to build three Superbowl teams. What happened? Did he suddenly forget HOW? Or was there an outside influence on what players to bring into the club?

2. Dick LeBeau was a genius defensive coordinator and the entire NFL respected and revered him as one of the best minds in the game. He lead the fierce mid 90's defense to a Superbowl and then returned to lead that early 2000's defense to three super bowls. But then what happened in 2012 - 2014 when the defense stopped being "Blitzburgh"? Did Lebeau forget how to call a defense? Or was there an outside influence on the defensive scheme that caused this great mind to be ultimately fired? We learned that Tomlin was asked to keep his fingers out of the defense. Is he?

3. How can Bruce Ariens produce an offense that leads the team to two Super bowls ultimately fired due to by Reid's account, his loyalty to Ben Roethlisberger? In other words, an outside influence wanted a different offense. Wasn't it Ben who broke the news that he was almost traded to the 49'ers in 2010? So, no trade occurred, and Tomlin is saddled with a QB he didn't want. Bruce is fired in 2011 and in comes Todd Haley, and the drama began between him and Ben. New offense inserted and what we're seeing is the same tired offense since then. Bruce is doing pretty damn well outside of the Steelers I'd say.

1. Agree.
2. When Butler retired he said that Shades had been calling the defense since 2013, before LeBeau left. Shades had always wanted to run his beloved Tampa 2 and what we got was a hybrid of DLB's zone blitz and Tampa 2 since we didn't really have the personnel to run a straight Tampa 2. Shades wanted smaller faster LB's to do that and thus we got a bunch of guys who sucked and got hurt a lot.
3. Dan and Deuce wanted Arians gone because he was going to get their QB killed. Now, this might be a little hard to wrap your brain around.... Ben didn't mind getting killed because he wanted to win every play, every series, every quarter, every game, every season with his arm. Throw downfield every effing play and if he took some hits, well that's a cost of doing business. Ben wanted to throw long every play and The Bruce wanted to throw long every play so they were happy together and Ben didn't mind getting killed. Dan and Deuce rightly saw that their franchise QB's career would be shortened if that **** kept up though. Enter Todd Haley who was obviously NOT a Tomlin hire. The day before Arians was let go, Tomlin said his staff would be back intact next season. It is generally agreed that Toddster is not a people person and in Ben's point of view he had crazy ideas like running the ball in bad weather and against opponents with a bad run defense. However, Haley was good at taking what the other team gave you and that didn't always mean passing downfield which didn't sit well with the future HOF QB. Still, the Steelers offensive output under Haley was the best of the Tomlin era. So it can be argued that Tomlin's best OC was the only one he didn't hire and the only one who came from outside the organization. Arians was kinda 50/50, he was WR coach under Cowher and promoted to OC by Tomlin.

$0.02.

 

[Drink IRON City]

^^^THIS!!^^^

This team will suck until Tomlin is gone.

As few as 5 years ago possibly 3, I was still thinking just maybe, but of late 3-5 years, I realize the truth in these words.

Even the 11-0 start season, one could see the chink in the armor by game 4. No contigency plans, nothing from ownership on down.


Salute the nation

 

[Chicoman]

The Steelers way is plain and simple....To Win a Championship!

Your now under the guise of all this Tomlinism BS....The Standards the standard, etc, etc.....all Tomlinism BS.

Bradshaw was 100% correct on Tomlin....he's not a good coach and Terry took so much heat for making that statement 2 years ago.

Someone owes TB12 an apology!

 

[topseed]

Canada wasn’t a very good coach in college either.

That's not really true. He had some success at NC State as well as Pitt.

The problem is, most of his offensive philosophy doesn't translate to the NFL. As the vast majority of us (besides Mike Tomlin) can plainly see.

 

[skline00]

It's official.

Stillers are in rebuilding mode.

The problem is rebuilding what?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

As few as 5 years ago possibly 3, I was still thinking just maybe, but of late 3-5 years, I realize the truth in these words.

Even the 11-0 start season, one could see the chink in the armor by game 4. No contigency plans, nothing from ownership on down.

Most of us knew that was a weak 11-0 because most of our opponents had some starters out every week with the 'Rona while the Steelers stayed pretty healthy.
When other teams got healthy a few of our guys got hurt then we lost 4 of the last 5 including 2 in a row to the Browns.

That's not really true. He had some success at NC State as well as Pitt.

The problem is, most of his offensive philosophy doesn't translate to the NFL. As the vast majority of us (besides Mike Tomlin) can plainly see.

One thing that Shades never does, besides having a losing season, is admit to a mistake.

 

[Djfan]

One thing that Shades never does, besides having a losing season, is admit to a mistake.

No need to. It's always the problem of players not executing.

 

[Steelr4evr]

No need to. It's always the problem of players not executing.

Ones that also should not need development/coaching so they can execute better.

 

[topseed]

One thing that Shades never does, besides having a losing season, is admit to a mistake.

True.

Although it looks like one of those things is going to change by the end of this season. Want to guess which one it is?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

True.

Although it looks like one of those things is going to change by the end of this season. Want to guess which one it is?

That “no losing seasons” is going to go but Matt Canada “will be moving on to other opportunities “ or “leaving to spend more time with his family “.

 

[SteelerSask2]

That “no losing seasons” is going to go but Matt Canada “will be moving on to other opportunities “ or “leaving to spend more time with his family “.

Money post Ron.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Money post Ron.

 

[pittbull]

The standard is the standard...