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**** this Govt.

You're right, all they had to do was keep their cool, but the question is why were there feds in the crowd getting people riled up? Do they send feds into the crowds during the lefts mostly peaceful protests to rile them up as well? Cause and effect.

That's it isn't it. The left can do all of the violence and destruction they want without interference. Hell they get encouragement to do so from politicians.

When anyone not of the leftist ideology protests they're called extremists. The FBI,DOJ,CIA and NSA already have all of you flag waving gun toting constitutionalists as enemies of the state. You're domestic terrorists.

If there's some massive protest it's going to be about the government and the very agencies who carry out it's dirty deeds.


I'd love to see some protests that involved millions of people, but I also know that if people got that motivated, it would be over something really bad linked to government. That's a powder keg.
 
 
You're right, all they had to do was keep their cool, but the question is why were there feds in the crowd getting people riled up? Do they send feds into the crowds during the lefts mostly peaceful protests to rile them up as well? Cause and effect.
Hard to say. We don’t know because they are gonna destroy **** regardless. If you’re gonna claim you’re better than the left you should act like it. No way anyone thought that was a good idea, feds or no feds. I know self control isn’t a virtue anymore, so I guess they are reaping what they’ve sown.
 
Hard to say. We don’t know because they are gonna destroy **** regardless. If you’re gonna claim you’re better than the left you should act like it. No way anyone thought that was a good idea, feds or no feds. I know self control isn’t a virtue anymore, so I guess they are reaping what they’ve sown.
I have an off the wall liberal friend that I've know for 50 years and is obsessed with Jan 6th. She asked (accused) me if I was in the crowd that day and I replied, um no, I live in AZ.
Meanwhile she has marched on Washington dozens of times, doing her hey hey, ho ho thing. I just grow tired of why the double standard is allowed to continue, realizing that neither side is virtuous, while seeing that scale of justice is hardly balanced.
 
I'd love to see some protests that involved millions of people, but I also know that if people got that motivated, it would be over something really bad linked to government. That's a powder keg.
Do you honestly think that this is avoidable? Maybe it will be a powder keg of another type? I just don't see how this can all stay together much longer. Some keg will blow, and my guess is that the right wing gets the blame, guns will be banned by emergency decree, and lead starts flying.
 
Do you honestly think that this is avoidable? Maybe it will be a powder keg of another type? I just don't see how this can all stay together much longer. Some keg will blow, and my guess is that the right wing gets the blame, guns will be banned by emergency decree, and lead starts flying.
I'd like to see something like a simple walk towards Washington that starts with a few folks and then more and more start walking. The trouble is that I could easily see the Feds plant bad actors in there, they'll eventually cause trouble, the media is ready and tunes into it, then it's shut down. It's all psy ops now to build the narrative...I have to think we were much better off as a society as a whole before TV gave us these lasting images of events many of which were staged or at a minimum embellished to guide that narrative.
 
Do you honestly think that this is avoidable? Maybe it will be a powder keg of another type? I just don't see how this can all stay together much longer. Some keg will blow, and my guess is that the right wing gets the blame, guns will be banned by emergency decree, and lead starts flying.
Idk it’s hard to say. NM is a blue state. Our governor last week tried to implement a law to ban carrying for 30 days whether it was concealed or open carry. Even the liberals here didn’t put up with it. I have hope when stuff like that happens. Last week liberals and conservatives came together at a peaceful protest all carrying guns to tell the governor to **** off.

It was peaceful everyone got a long. There was no wyte soopremisis, no auntie fuh skum etc
 
I'd like to see something like a simple walk towards Washington that starts with a few folks and then more and more start walking. The trouble is that I could easily see the Feds plant bad actors in there, they'll eventually cause trouble, the media is ready and tunes into it, then it's shut down. It's all psy ops now to build the narrative...I have to think we were much better off as a society as a whole before TV gave us these lasting images of events many of which were staged or at a minimum embellished to guide that narrative.
Some people are easily impressionable. It’s not necessarily tv, it’s just the impressionable people need to follow herd mentality to feel accepted.


Just as the saying goes. If you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything
 
Hard to say. We don’t know because they are gonna destroy **** regardless. If you’re gonna claim you’re better than the left you should act like it. No way anyone thought that was a good idea, feds or no feds. I know self control isn’t a virtue anymore, so I guess they are reaping what they’ve sown.
Personally I think protesting is a complete waste of time. Nothing good will come of it. You still have the same shitbags running government no matter what.
 
Personally I think protesting is a complete waste of time. Nothing good will come of it. You still have the same shitbags running government no matter what.
I actually think that it would be good if done right. It worked in Poland, the UK, even saved some Jews in Berlin in 43.
 
I actually think that it would be good if done right. It worked in Poland, the UK, even saved some Jews in Berlin in 43.

It's just not going to happen on a large scale unless something really bad happens. Well actually,a ton of bad **** has happened, it just doesn't motivate people enough.

I'd rather skip all of the bullshit and have a constitutional convention. It's long overdue.
 
It's just not going to happen on a large scale unless something really bad happens. Well actually,a ton of bad **** has happened, it just doesn't motivate people enough.

I'd rather skip all of the bullshit and have a constitutional convention. It's long overdue.
I still don't trust the convention. How do we know that the libs won't steal it and radically restrict our rights?
 
I still don't trust the convention. How do we know that the libs won't steal it and radically restrict our rights?
You can't steal it when you're way outnumbered in states by far.

Each state has 1 vote. So states like California, New York,New Jersey. 3 Votes total.

We way outnumbered them. We have a much better chance right now to amend the constitution as we ever have. Or maybe it turns into a big fat fight and we have it out.

Either way we have zero chance of them running away with anything.

The congress is out of it. They have no say in this deal and each state will select its own delegate.

I know it's a tall task,but not trying everything you can to set things right shouldn't be acceptable.


Both sides Republican and Democrat will fight this tooth and nail. Why? It strips the power away from them. They all need put in their place and to know who the hell they serve.


We can fix it before the whole thing collapses and things get brutal and ugly. It's not going to fix itself. Just too many awful people have been in places of power for far too long.
 
You can't steal it when you're way outnumbered in states by far.

Each state has 1 vote. So states like California, New York,New Jersey. 3 Votes total.

We way outnumbered them. We have a much better chance right now to amend the constitution as we ever have. Or maybe it turns into a big fat fight and we have it out.

Either way we have zero chance of them running away with anything.

The congress is out of it. They have no say in this deal and each state will select its own delegate.

I know it's a tall task,but not trying everything you can to set things right shouldn't be acceptable.


Both sides Republican and Democrat will fight this tooth and nail. Why? It strips the power away from them. They all need put in their place and to know who the hell they serve.


We can fix it before the whole thing collapses and things get brutal and ugly. It's not going to fix itself. Just too many awful people have been in places of power for far too long.
I understand that. Still don't trust.
 
I understand that. Still don't trust.
I understand. It's gotten so bad that no process is trusted, not even a constitutional one that gives power to the states.

It's the only viable solution I can think of.
 
I understand. It's gotten so bad that no process is trusted, not even a constitutional one that gives power to the states.

It's the only viable solution I can think of.
You may be right.
 
What funny is if you Google Article 5 up, you get a "sponsored" site right at top that headlines. Stopping a dangerous article 5...haha. Common Cause is the page. They clearly feared this so much they went all out to stop the momentum in states it was getting, with around 20 states already approving the measure for a convention. They hate Article 5.


Anyway it's never going to happen given how much money and corruption is involved in opposing it. That just leaves revolt left on the table or submission.
 
Well just know that we will never get term limits,a balanced budget, and man so many things need to be out in place to crush corruption in a government it's unreal. The office of the president needs a serious power check and limitation. The number one job of the president is TO PROTECT the COUNTRY.
He's willfully allowed an invasion of around 8 million and counting into it. That should be instant removal from office,but since we have an endless war between two parties for power nobody will ever do their ******* job and remove the guy. They should have removed him after Afghanistan. They should have removed him because he's clearly and completely unfit because he has the cognitive ability of a melted crayon.

They use government as a political weapon now and do so without any fear of consequences. And there's nothing any of us can do it about it.
 
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