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Thoughts on this Quarterback class

SteelerFan448 said:
Yes it can. It's why the Steelers have been stuck in the middle for so long. TJ has been their only great first rounder in a decade. They can't even get their decent picks to a second contract. They traded up for Jones and there's still a huge question mark at tackle. You don't think the rest of that draft had to make up for the potential wasted pick? I do.
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Which miss is more responsible for where they are right now. Devin Bush or Kenny Pickett. If Devin Bush was a perennial Pro Bowl player does this team have a greater chance to contend.........what if Kenny Pickett was?
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Which miss is more responsible for where they are right now. Devin Bush or Kenny Pickett. If Devin Bush was a perennial Pro Bowl player does this team have a greater chance to contend.........what if Kenny Pickett was?
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Why can't it be both? As a fan from the early '60, I honestly don't think this team is capable of developing any player.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Why can't it be both? As a fan from the early '60, I honestly don't think this team is capable of developing any player.
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That's heavy hyperbole. They started three draft picks last year and they all played well. It's not even close. The Kenny Pick has us right back here right now at this point in time and if they reach on a QB tonight we can all debate this again in another three years.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Which miss is more responsible for where they are right now. Devin Bush or Kenny Pickett. If Devin Bush was a perennial Pro Bowl player does this team have a greater chance to contend.........what if Kenny Pickett was?
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A first-round miss is a miss and it hurts the short- and long-term success of the team.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
But it's magnified 10 fold if that miss is at QB. Look at the Cleveland Browns for God's sake.
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If the Steelers didn't draft Pickett they'd still be messing around with Fields, Wilson, Rudolph, etc. In the grand scheme it didn't make that much of a difference because they abandoned ship quickly.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
If the Steelers didn't draft Pickett they'd still be messing around with Fields, Wilson, Rudolph, etc. In the grand scheme it didn't make that much of a difference because they abandoned ship quickly.
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And even with the early abandonment here we are. It ain't gonna matter. Sanders is going to the Browns and I don't think even Tomlin is stupid enough to take Dart with no second round pick.
 
TDX27 said:
The thing with Allar is he will have 3 years of college ball under his belt. His first season stank. He wasn't very good but how could you tell with the horrendous O they put on the field. You couldn't tell the difference between the type of O they were running from the Steelers. No middle of the field or much down field. Everything was short and the good teams gameplanned for that and shut them down.

This past year was much different. He still didn't have great toys to throw to, but you could see how he improved significantly, throwing the ball and even his mobility. The O put on the field was much better. He was allowed to and able to throw to all areas of the field.

If he improves as he did last year, I can easily see him going in the 1st round.
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Allar did improve a ton from year 1 to 2 as a starter. His OC was fired mid season in year 1. Then in year 2, the scheme was much better but the WRs were awful. Allar dropped weight and improved his mobility quite a bit.

His weakness is his footwork gets sloppy and he misses throws because of it. That's fixable. He reads defenses, he has pocket awareness, elite arm talent and leadership.

I saw a segment with a Penn State beat writer talking about the WRs. He watched practice for the ND game. The WR coah told the WRs that ND was going to press them. He then demonstrated how to beat the press. He then had them runs drills over and over on how to beat the press. The game rolls around and none of them did what they were taught in practice.

That's why they hit the portal at WR. They had some talented freshmen last year that weren't ready yet. It's a more competitive room this year. If the WRs just have average play, it's an improvement.

The offense was good last year even with bad WRs. Against Ohio State, they moved the ball. They were scoreless on 3 drives with 1st down inside the 5. Bad playcalling and WRs literally dropping balls.

If the WRs step up and Allar fixes his footwork, the offense could be explosive.

In any case, Allar will be a high first round pick on his processing and arm talent alone.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
If the Steelers didn't draft Pickett they'd still be messing around with Fields, Wilson, Rudolph, etc. In the grand scheme it didn't make that much of a difference because they abandoned ship quickly.
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They did abandon ship but part of that is that Colbert drafted Pickett. It's easy to ditch the last guy's picks. Will Khan give up so quickly on a 1st round QB he drafts himself?
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
They did abandon ship but part of that is that Colbert drafted Pickett. It's easy to ditch the last guy's picks. Will Khan give up so quickly on a 1st round QB he drafts himself?
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Given how few of their subpar draft picks that they keep, yes.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Which miss is more responsible for where they are right now. Devin Bush or Kenny Pickett. If Devin Bush was a perennial Pro Bowl player does this team have a greater chance to contend.........what if Kenny Pickett was?
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If Pickett hit and is a pro-bowler now then it means that he belongs in a group with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. If he is performing like that then the line, the receivers etc. must also be performing. In that case, this team is a contender, more so than if Bush hits. However, it was more obvious at the time that Pickett was a bad pick, but the trade up for Bush cost a first rounder, second rounder, and following year's third. the capital wasted on that was way worse than the wasted Pickett experience.
 
Steelers War Room said:
If Pickett hit and is a pro-bowler now then it means that he belongs in a group with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar. If he is performing like that then the line, the receivers etc. must also be performing. In that case, this team is a contender, more so than if Bush hits. However, it was more obvious at the time that Pickett was a bad pick, but the trade up for Bush cost a first rounder, second rounder, and following year's third. the capital wasted on that was way worse than the wasted Pickett experience.
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Fair assessment. Ppint being miss on a first round QB irs years to recover and that isn't just the Steelers. I can go up and down the league with probably 20 names.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Fair assessment. Ppint being miss on a first round QB irs years to recover and that isn't just the Steelers. I can go up and down the league with probably 20 names.
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I'm just happy that it didn't take the full contract before the team decided that Pickett was not the guy. Maybe the best part of Colbert being replaced is that Khan didn't have to ride with his last first rounder.
 
I suppose there could be a Dart supporter in here. But is there really anyone who is dissapointed they didn't take Sanders after the way his dad acted after the slide quoting scripture. The kid is going to the exact sane place and situation he was connected to all along. He is out a few million on the front end but if he us all him and daddy Deion say he is he will get the generational cheque a year earlier. If Sanders last name was Smith.......it might have been a big mistake passing. It's not. Him and dad are gonna be coach killers which was what I told myself when I thought they would take. He ys either gonna be good or get Shades fired. I win either way.
 
They like the kid from Syracuse. If we could get a good RB in the third and him in the 4th, it's a pretty good draft.

What picks do we have next year?
 
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