I disagree… first of all the Trabisky we saw last game had nothing to lose… there is a real chance that if you gave him starts over a cleared Kenny, he’d revert to playing not to lose… the bigger issue, though, is not creating the same situation we did with Mason and Duck where it stunts a young qbs confidence or encourages them to play either too aggressive or too conservative to keep the job… assuming that all of this was just precautionary and he is cleared, Kenny starts and continues to learn on the fly
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Especially if they occur relatively close together. That’s what happened to Dale Earnhardt Jr. and now Kurt Bush. I’ve mentioned before, go to Joe Rogan’s channel on YouTube and look up his interview with Dale Jr.
Speaking on the comment that Pickett doesn't give us a better chance to win, I completely disagree. KP looked much better in his 2 starts than Trubisky did and KP is a rookie. KP also had us in the lead in the Tampa game so you can't say we wouldn't have had the same outcome if he didn't get injured. Sure, Trubisky finally showed something but KP is still the future and KP is still just getting comfortable with the O and the timing with his receivers since he didn't practice with them much in the preseason or at all the first 4 weeks of the season. Once Tomlin went to KP, there is no turning back unless he was absolutely atrocious. That he has not been. He has been as good, if not better than Trubisky in his 2 starts. He was immediately cleared for full practice today so I see no reason he won't clear the NFL protocol Friday or Saturday and, if he does, it's entirely up to Tomlin to play him Sunday night and I think he will and I think KP would want to start after full practices all week. He gives us the best chance to win.
So I fully supported KP playing considering Trubisky's slow start. He came into the Jets game one drive start at the goal line sparked team and threw an untimely interception. The whole team including the coaches were over their head vs. Bills and he threw some good passes. Still they did not score a TD. He had an outstanding first drive vs. The Bucs and produced another field goal from the outer limits of FG range. He got the ball inside the 20 after half they got FG. I'm not blaming it on him but you cannot absolve him and not Trubisky. Same people calling plays and playing around them. Mitch sparked the team in Sundays win as much or more than KP did vs. the Jets. So in my opinion the risk doesn't match the advantage here.
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No matter who starts at QB, the coaching staff has to start trusting them to make plays. Trubisky and Pickett are both capable of showing so much more and are being limited by the scheme.
I felt this was to opportunity to let Trubisky play and if he looks good continue. If KP goes in and is OK or plays poor you are really in a bind. Eagles week after will be a lot of trouble. Honestly this team is a rudderless ship.
I like the idea going with up tempo, quick passing game. As I am not really confident in Canada over the long haul of a game.
You are right though stop handcuffing them. Let whatever will be will be.
On another note Kenny was a FP participant today. He will start Sunday.
The thing is, we don’t know for certain that KP had an actual concussion… like we know there was a concussion with Muth. KP was just held out in concussion protocols, which are strict enough now that you don’t have to be absolutely concussed to qualify for… they severely tightened the protocols after Tua. Like I’ve said before, I don’t think a single player who has been taken in for potential concussion observation since Tua has returned that game. Typically the past couple decades the Steelers would be extra conservative with a health and PR situation like this and probably moreso with a rookie, so I have little doubt that if he plays he is totally fine.
Something Mitch said after the Tampa game really stood out to me… that on that big conversation to Claypool, he wasn’t sure what read Claypool had made but trusted him to have made the same one…
In a modern offense the wrs aren’t often running a singular set route… there is an advanced route tree associated with every play… the play has a primary route with a preset read that adjusts it and often a secondary post snap read that adjusts it again … that QB and wr best see and read the same things or it’s often a pick..
That is why that asinine qb competition that wasn’t real was so stupid… whomever you named starter had to get on the same page as the qb and earn their trust really quickly… instead we went into the season with a qb still not trusting the wrs or totally on the same page as them..
Didn't realize Tua is playing. You know you can't help people who will not help themselves. I doubt if it happens again soon but I'm sorry that guy is a time bomb for a real problem.
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Antonio Brown is another one who may have not been monitored close enough through protocol or put in protocol. Brown also had a low end protection type helmet for years, wouldn't switch until mandatory and even then put up a fight.
The league is trying to omit the concussion part of football and to error on caution is probably the best because Dubai isn't going to tolerate flashing Americans for ever.
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I think antonio had issues long before burficts hit. The hit is just a cop out for him to act the way he does
The brain is a fragile organ
Less than a month after having muscle lock which was 4 days after clearly having balance related issues.
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Everything changed with Tua. They fired the Dr so now every Dr is in CYA mode and will hold out any player that bumps his head. Teddy Bridgewater was taken out of the game by the league observer after the first play, and then the Dr kept him out for the game. Teddy never had a concussion.
I'm not convinced Kenny had an actual concussion. Sure he bumped his head a bit but it was hardly violent. A QB will almost always hit his head to some degree when he is hit in the front and falls backward.
With Tomlin announcing this, I have a feeling it's Tomln's way of influencing "the protocol".
I'm not convinced Kenny had an actual concussion. Sure he bumped his head a bit but it was hardly violent. A QB will almost always hit his head to some degree when he is hit in the front and falls backward.
With Tomlin announcing this, I have a feeling it's Tomln's way of influencing "the protocol".
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I didn't say it was Burthdefects hit that caused ABs issues, more implied it has been an accumulation of undetected concussion like hits that have done the damage. AB never underwent the higher cautious-ness of today's protocol. Had they been more cautious back in his earlier days, maybe he doesn't have the issues (if caused by head trama) today.
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Kenny took all 1st team reps yesterday so unless there's a setback, he should easily clear and Tomlin will start him.
If he had a concussion he should not play. And there is no real way to tell if he had a concussion. The protocol used to be based on time and a gradual symptom free return to activity over the course of 10 days or more. Anything to do with concussions is pseudo science. I think this year is a ****** right off anyhow. Trubu gives them as good a chance to win as KP. This is becoming about not wanting a QB controversy. When honestly trying to play the kid unless he really succeeds will only heighten that controversy. I cannot say he has a concussion. But c'mon Tape his head double bounced on the ground really hard. Like same as Tua a few weeks ago.
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Same as Tua? Not on the replays i saw. Tua was violently thrown to the ground, his upper back and head making initial contact with the ground and immediately seized up.
Pickett was hit and the tackler did not wrap to avoid the penalty. It was not an especially violent hit and Pickett's butt hit first and then his head did hit the ground in the course of falling backwards. Pickett then got up almost immediately and looked steady on his feet and he looked toward the camera and his eyes looked clear. Maybe he did complain about concussion symptoms later. Nobody knows that.
I just have a feeling that if not for the Tua incident, I'd bet Pickett wouldn't have even missed a play. I don't want to see the NFL go from not doing enough to automatically pulling a QB every time his helmet hits the ground.
Pickett was hit and the tackler did not wrap to avoid the penalty. It was not an especially violent hit and Pickett's butt hit first and then his head did hit the ground in the course of falling backwards. Pickett then got up almost immediately and looked steady on his feet and he looked toward the camera and his eyes looked clear. Maybe he did complain about concussion symptoms later. Nobody knows that.
I just have a feeling that if not for the Tua incident, I'd bet Pickett wouldn't have even missed a play. I don't want to see the NFL go from not doing enough to automatically pulling a QB every time his helmet hits the ground.
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I'm pretty certain the officials or spotters called Pickett out of the game. I agree that the play would've been handled differently if not for the rule changes that were brought about after the Tua injury.
I fully agree. Pickett has now had 2 full practices with no issues. If he doesn't clear protocol today or tomorrow, it's because the NFL is going to start keeping every player out for at least a game. He should be starting Sunday night.
Pickett has already cleared the NFL's concussion protocol. This early clearance has to show how conservative they were during the game. We can expect more of that during games would be my guess. There's no doubt he should play Sunday night.
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Why isn't anybody considering the elephant in the room?
KP never had a concussion. They pulled him for precautionary reasons in today's climate
KP never had a concussion. They pulled him for precautionary reasons in today's climate
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Tomlin did that same thing to last year rookie Moore. He had him play RT in the last pre-season game, not giving him every LT snap available. Mixing the OL at the last second doesn't help anything either but I'm hearing your point.
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