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We are being badly misled about the Ukraine-Russia war

Confluence said:
Y'all should send some advisors to help with them planes.
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What could go wrong? I've never heard of a conflict where the United States sent advisors and where that escalated into US troops on the ground for 10 years, with 58,000 dead and more than 150,000 wounded.
 
Steeltime said:
What could go wrong? I've never heard of a conflict where the United States sent advisors and where that escalated into US troops on the ground for 10 years, with 58,000 dead and more than 150,000 wounded.
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Ahh the good ol days....
 
xjx said:
It looks like we are spread very thin in many areas, military and monetary. We are vulnerable. Reports lately suggest that the ccp will move on Taiwan in 2027, about midway through Joe's second term. Thin on money, fuel, supplies and manpower, the us wouldn't do well.
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But at least feelings won't be hurt.
 
Steeltime said:
What could go wrong? I've never heard of a conflict where the United States sent advisors and where that escalated into US troops on the ground for 10 years, with 58,000 dead and more than 150,000 wounded.
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Yeah, it probably wouldn't help to send 13 horsemen ahead of time again. That was the previous proxy war.
 
13 headless horsemen. ( the first thing that came to mind).
 
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Steeltime said:
Long interview between Tucker Carlson and RFK, Jr. Lengthy but you absolutely must watch this. RFK, Jr. puts the Ukraine conflict in perspective:
  • Gorbachev agreed to pull 400k Russian troops from East Germany, in return for US promise that NATO not move any further east. United States and Germany agree.
  • 1996, Poland, Romania, Estonia, etc. join NATO.
  • 2014, United States funds a coup of the elected Ukrainian government, which refused to align itself with EITHER the United States or Russia.
  • The United States oversees placement of pro-West government. Regime change ... again.
  • Putin enters into Minsk Accord in 2014, along with France and Ukraine. Agrees to ceasefire in Donbas, withdrawal of Russian troops, etc.
  • United States tells Ukraine they will not get our money if they go through with agreement. Agreement falls through.
  • 90% of Donbas is Russian. Ukraine outlaws Russian language in 2015.
  • Zelensky elected in 2019 on peace platform, promises to put Minsk accord into effect. He gets 90% of the vote.
  • United States tells Zelensky he cannot put Minsk Accord into effect and if he does ... guess what? Loses $$.
  • Zelensky and Putin reach agreement March, 2022 - one month after invasion. Putin agrees to withdraw troops, protection for Russian minority in Donbas, Ukraine agrees not to become NATO member.
  • United States once again orders Ukraine not to do so or ... hey, lose money again!!
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Yes.

Those of us paying attention knew all this already.
 
Quote from Oleshchuk: "An F-16 jet has already been to Ukraine. It has touched down on our airfields, we’ve held joint training with F-16 pilots, and so we do have experience operating the F-16 jets. I think this is crucial."
 
Steelr4evr said:
It's not like you can take the weekend F-16 fighter pilot course and fly those things effectively.
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That’s the thing. There’s a good chance that Ukrainian pilots, lacking experience to operate the F-16 effectively are going to get their lunch eaten regardless of the technological superiority.
 
Caption time.

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ZonaBurgh said:
who would make the lattes?
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Maybe tibs hires illegals to make lattes. It’s the norm here in the US. Maybe hungary is the same.


Onto topic for being mislead. That is the government for you. Not a shock, nor surprised. Your tax dollars get mismanaged, misused and pocketed any which way
 
I wonder what they are going to buy to replace the donated F-16’s? Just wait till they disclose the new F-35 sales.
 
MT~Forged said:
I wonder what they are going to buy to replace the donated F-16’s? Just wait till they disclose the new F-35 sales.
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your huwyte primmasee is showing
 
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