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Where is the star power?
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When it comes to player acquisitions, the buck stops with the GM.
Of course the team, scouts, coaches and even ownership might have a say, but the GM is the guy in charge and he ultimately makes MOST, if not ALL, the final decisions.
Every decision, in any business, in any organization is never made in a vacuum. That doesn't alleviate responsibility of THAT decision to the final decision maker.
Colbert was the final decision maker and he was for every pick the last four seasons he was GM. Not Tomlin. Not Roethlisberger. Not the scouts. Not Art Rooney II (all signs point to Art Rooney being very hands off in player acquisitions).
The only time ownership might have gotten more involved than most is the pick that literally gave Colbert his career: Roethlisberger. And that's proven by Dan Rooney autobiography in which is states he impacted that draft decision.
Colbert sucked. He was given WAY too much credit for his ability because the rode the coat tails of having arguably one of the 3-4 best franchise quarterbacks around the league for 15 years. I could look like a decent GM if I had Roethlsiberger as my QB. And so could many others here.
Of course the team, scouts, coaches and even ownership might have a say, but the GM is the guy in charge and he ultimately makes MOST, if not ALL, the final decisions.
Every decision, in any business, in any organization is never made in a vacuum. That doesn't alleviate responsibility of THAT decision to the final decision maker.
Colbert was the final decision maker and he was for every pick the last four seasons he was GM. Not Tomlin. Not Roethlisberger. Not the scouts. Not Art Rooney II (all signs point to Art Rooney being very hands off in player acquisitions).
The only time ownership might have gotten more involved than most is the pick that literally gave Colbert his career: Roethlisberger. And that's proven by Dan Rooney autobiography in which is states he impacted that draft decision.
Colbert sucked. He was given WAY too much credit for his ability because the rode the coat tails of having arguably one of the 3-4 best franchise quarterbacks around the league for 15 years. I could look like a decent GM if I had Roethlsiberger as my QB. And so could many others here.
Colbert drafted Troy, Ben, Brown, Heyward, Pouncey, DeCastro, Watt, Hampton, etc. That's 3 absolute 1st ballot guys, with 3 more possible, I don't think DeCastro ever gets in. I think the Coaches have way more say than you think, the Roethlisberger thing, you never hear anyone say Colbert was interested in Andrews, it's always Cowher was interested in Andrews. The drafting philosophy changed from Cowher to Tomlin.
Our GM before Colbert got fired because he didn't draft who Cowher wanted.
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It also changed drastically from Colbert To Omar.
how so?
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The focus shifted to the front lines in the draft, and we became far more aggressive in player acquisition in free agency. It was a drastic departure from the Colbert years. He played the game well last year in bringing in players who didn't count against the comp formula as well. I am not judging the quality just that it was a very different approach and that shift was clearly delineated in the change over of GM.
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That's Weidl's MO. Kahn negotiates contracts.
With Colbert, they brought in Gandy, Hartings, Farrior, Clark, Wilson, Staley, traded up for Troy and Holmes, both Super Bowl winning Olines were guys we drafted or signed in FA. Colberts first 4 years here, they drafted Starks, Simmons, signed Hartings, (3 starting Olinemen on the Super Bowl 40 team) and drafted Hampton and Keisel.
Traded a 1st for Minkah, traded up in round 1 for Devin Bush, which is a Tomlin move, and that was the change in drafting philosophy that occurred when Tomlin took over, we started drafting defensive players to fit his dollar general Tampa 2, drafting DE's to get up field instead of eat blockers, drafting under sized LB's to try to cover WR1's (Timmons, Spence, Davis, Worilds, Bush etc.)
Then the 2009, 2010, 2011 drafts, he spent 9 draft picks on Olinemen or Dlinemen.
They didn't just start signing guys when Colbert retired.
Under Colbert they drafted Kendrick Green, then played him out of position
Under Kahn they drafted Broderick Jones, then played him out of position, I'm 100% sure that neither GM had anything to do with that, and that was the HC who like I said, has way more say in the draft than most want to admit.
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HE does more than that. But I am sure he leans heavily on Andy for player selection but don't sell Omar short on directing strategy. He isn't just "contracts".
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We will have to agree to disagree. He wasn't using premium picks on the line he was using volume later in the draft. Omar and Andy are targeting both lines with premium picks. As far as playing out of position for Jones, the last two drafts a large percentage of all Lineman drafted the first round by the league in general were asked to switch sides.
Hampton rd 1, Simmons rd 1, Starks rd 3, Heyward rd 1, Hood(sucked)rd1, Pouncey and DeCastro rd1, Gilbert round 2, Adams Rd 2, Tuitt rd2.
I think Cowher and Tomlin had more say in the draft than their GM's did. We fired a GM because he didn't pick who Cowher wanted, and there is no way that Kahn stepped in as GM and had more say than Tomlin.
Also We were always seemed to be right up against the cap which hasn’t been the case yet in Omar’s reign.
Having QB’s that absolutely suck on cheap contracts makes signing FA’s a heck of a lot easier.