Who is your College Football top 4?

[Crimsonsteel]

For obvious reasons, I think they should be ranked....


1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. Mississippi St.

Not looking with SEC bias, I think that these are the 4 best teams in CFB.

 

[steeltruckin]

Alabama
Oregon
FSU
Ohio St

 

[Southern Steeler]

As it stands now....

1)Florida St.
2)Alabama
3)Oregon
4)TCU

Having said that, if Mississippi St wins out then they will be in the top 4. I also believe that Florida St. will not survive the playoff. They just aren't that good. But, they are undefeated.

 

[jitter77]

I don't think you can dispute the top 3 of Alabama, Oregon, and FSU. After that it gets ugly. You have baylor, tcu, osu, or miss st for the last spot. FSU is playing with fire and if they lose a game they will drop far. Alabama and miss st could still lose a game which would create a comical mess.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Alabama has beaten 1 ranked team this year. That was Miss State this week. Miss State has only beaten 1 ranked team and that was #16 Auburn who has 3 losses.

Oregon has 3 wins vs ranked teams.
TCU and Baylor have 2 wins each vs ranked teams.

 

[Vader]

Alabama has beaten 1 ranked team this year. That was Miss State this week. Miss State has only beaten 1 ranked team and that was #16 Auburn who has 3 losses.

Oregon has 3 wins vs ranked teams.
TCU and Baylor have 2 wins each vs ranked teams.

You are counting teams and where they are ranked now. MS state beat LSU in LA, Texas A&M, and Auburn in back to back to back weeks. They were all ranked at the time. I understand you don't like the SEC so I'm not surprised.

Baylor has only beaten 2 ranked teams but one of those teams (Oklahoma) has lost 3 games and aren't ranked in the playoff committee poll. So if OK falls out that means they beat 1? Or do you count when they played them?

They need a 16 team playoff and get this over with.

 

[bermudasteel]

For obvious reasons, I think they should be ranked....


1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. Mississippi St.

Not looking with SEC bias, I think that these are the 4 best teams in CFB.

Bumpity, bump, bump, bump!!!

 

[bermudasteel]

Alabama
Oregon
FSU
Ohio St

You can't be serious - Ohio St.???

You are counting teams and where they are ranked now. MS state beat LSU in LA, Texas A&M, and Auburn in back to back to back weeks. They were all ranked at the time. I understand you don't like the SEC so I'm not surprised.

Baylor has only beaten 2 ranked teams but one of those teams (Oklahoma) has lost 3 games and aren't ranked in the playoff committee poll. So if OK falls out that means they beat 1? Or do you count when they played them?

They need a 16 team playoff and get this over with.

Quoted for truth. Excellent post, Vader!!!

 

[Idioteque]

1. Kansas State
2-4. Doesn't matter

Just give us one. Please?

 

[Troglodyte]

In a playoff with a hundred possible teams and only four playoff teams, you need to be a conference champion IMO. So no more than one team from the SEC.
BTW they really need to expand this thing to 8 or 16 teams.

 

[Vader]

In a playoff with a hundred possible teams and only four playoff teams, you need to be a conference champion IMO. So no more than one team from the SEC.
BTW they really need to expand this thing to 8 or 16 teams.

Yea, I'd rather a ****** Big 10 get in than a good SEC team. Everyone knows Big 10 teams always beat SEC teams in the NC game.

I'd love to have a 16 team playoff but right now MS. State and Bama deserve to be top 4 teams.

 

[Troglodyte]

You are counting teams and where they are ranked now.

What does where a team used to be ranked have to do with anything? There's a reason that teams who were once ranked are no longer ranked - they were over rated! Using current rankings makes perfect sense.

 

[DBS1970]

I'm still thinking FSU is the best team in college football.

1)FSU

2)MS State

3)Alabama

4) I don't know.

I hope in the next few years my Tennessee Vols will crack the top 4.

I also think all the major conferences should get a spot for their champs. I'd rather see the playoffs for CFB than a hundred different meaningless bowl games.

 

[Troglodyte]

Yea, I'd rather a ****** Big 10 get in than a good SEC team. Everyone knows Big 10 teams always beat SEC teams in the NC game.

I'd love to have a 16 team playoff but right now MS. State and Bama deserve to be top 4 teams.

Never said anything about the Big Ten but who's to say anything based on history? By your logic Miss State should be excluded because historically they haven't been a top college team.

 

[DBS1970]

I'm still thinking FSU is the best team in college football.

1)FSU

2)MS State

3)Alabama

4) I don't know.

I hope in the next few years my Tennessee Vols will crack the top 4.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

You are counting teams and where they are ranked now. MS state beat LSU in LA, Texas A&M, and Auburn in back to back to back weeks. They were all ranked at the time. I understand you don't like the SEC so I'm not surprised.

Baylor has only beaten 2 ranked teams but one of those teams (Oklahoma) has lost 3 games and aren't ranked in the playoff committee poll. So if OK falls out that means they beat 1? Or do you count when they played them?

They need a 16 team playoff and get this over with.

I'm going by the current rankings. Why would anybody go by the old rankings unless they wanted to make wins vs unranked LSU and unranked Texas A&M seem like bigger wins than they actually are.


The fact is, these SEC teams have not played the tough schedule people think.


I have no idea if Miss State is good. Auburn is a good win but it's nothing special. LSU just got shut out by Arkansas. Should we rank Arkansas now because LSU used to be ranked top 10?


I don't have a problem with Bama in the top 4, but Miss State should not be ahead of TCU, Baylor, or even Ohio State. At no point did I feel Miss State was a threat to beat Bama.


The playoff has to be at least 8 teams. 5 conference champs and 3 wildcards.


I don't know why everyone goes by schedule to rank teams instead of rankIng them by watching and assessing how good each team is. I am no impressed at all with Miss State. I don't care if their schedule on paper is tougher than X. I go by how good I think they are.


Right now my rankIng would be


1 Florida State , no they're not as good as last year but Bama isn't as good as last year either. It is hard to be undefeated and they keep winning these tight games.


2 Oregon, they have the most good wins. Beat Stanford and Michigan State convincingly to show they can play with physical teams. Mariota is the difference.


3 Alabama


4 TCU, yeah they lost to Baylor but I still think they are better.


Ohio State took a blow when Nebraska got blown out by Wisconsin. Wisconsin is good but they have some losses from when Melvin Gordon was banged up. Wisconsin was dominating LSU until Gordon left the game near the half. Then 2 of their starting 3 DL got hurt in the 2nd and LSU was finally able to move the ball. Wisconsin is a good team but they won't be ranked high enough to give OSU a huge bump if they beat them in the Big 10 Champ, which is no guarantee the way Gordon is playing. OSU probably needs help to make the playoff.

 

[GRBman]

I think basing "quality wins" on ranking is troublesome. Let's take two teams for example: Auburn and South Carolina

South Carolina was a preseason top 10 football team. They lost their first game to A&M on national television and was exposed as completely overrated.
Auburn was a preseason top 5 team. They began the year undefeated and blowing-out everyone...until they hit the meat of their schedule. After the Kansas State game that Auburn SURVIVED, Auburn has had to play Mississippi State on the road, Ole Miss on the Road, Georgia on the road, A&M at home and South Carolina at home. It would appear that Auburn wasn't "overrated" at the beginning of the year...they're just worn out.

In essence, I think some teams are overrated and some just change. Auburn is getting worse...Ohio State, however, is getting much better as the season progresses. Alabama has been consistent, but they struggle away from home. LSU is basically Florida...with a better reputation and a coach.

I would have Oregon 1. I think the Ducks have been the most impressive team all year. They lost one game at home to an Arizona team that's pretty damn good...and they had a patch-work offensive line in that game. I would have Alabama 2 and FSU 3. Seminoles are (like Auburn was) living on borrowed time. You simply cannot continue to fall behind by double digits and expect to come back every time.

#4 is a toss-up for me between Baylor and Mississippi State. Flip a coin.

I'd have Ohio State at #6. The Big 10 as a conference is garbage. The conference really only has one quality win out of conference...ONE... That was Indiana inexplicably beating Missouri. Go figure.

They need to go to 8 teams. As much of an SEC homer as I am...and I'll readily admit that...I truly believe that if you're going to have a PLAYOFF, then every conference champ should get a shot (of the "Power 5")... if you want to include all conferences, then go to 16. I'd be perfectly happy with that too. It still won't ruin the season. 16 teams gives you 6 wildcard teams...that's not a lot when you really think about it.

 

[Vader]

What does where a team used to be ranked have to do with anything? There's a reason that teams who were once ranked are no longer ranked - they were over rated! Using current rankings makes perfect sense.

It matters when you say MS State has only played one ranked team while using the "Right now" rankings. But when you talk about other teams you use "At the time" rankings. It's a double standard.

 

[Vader]

I'm going by the current rankings. Why would anybody go by the old rankings unless they wanted to make wins vs unranked LSU and unranked Texas A&M seem like bigger wins than they actually are.


The fact is, these SEC teams have not played the tough schedule people think.


I have no idea if Miss State is good. Auburn is a good win but it's nothing special. LSU just got shut out by Arkansas. Should we rank Arkansas now because LSU used to be ranked top 10?


I don't have a problem with Bama in the top 4, but Miss State should not be ahead of TCU, Baylor, or even Ohio State. At no point did I feel Miss State was a threat to beat Bama.

Fact is you are trying to put any team in there but an SEC team. You've been anti-SEC for years. Of course you don't know how good MS State is but you KNOW that TCU, Baylor or GASP OSU should be ahead of them. The fact is that the big 10 sucks monkey balls. TCU lost to Baylor but you think they are still better? MSU lost to Bama in Tuscaloosa by 5 points but MSU isn't that good? TCU gives up 61 ******* points but they are a great team? LOL.. I'm sorry but your SEC hate is on full display.

 

[ark steel]

What does where a team used to be ranked have to do with anything? There's a reason that teams who were once ranked are no longer ranked - they were over rated! Using current rankings makes perfect sense.

Either measure could be relevant when you are talking about the strength of a particular win. It really depends upon the situation.

If a team is very good and ranked #4 when you play them, but outside factors where they lose some players, then some losses drop them out of the top 25, does that diminish the fact that you beat them when they are good and with their best players? If you beat them early in the season when their starting two RB's are suspended for smoking dope and the QB is suspended for making off-color comments where the lose the first three games and no others ending up ranked in the Top-25, does that end of year ranking make your win more significant?

It may have been that the original ranking was waaay off and it is clear from the season's progression that the end of the year ranking makes the most sense.

 

[Southern Steeler]

I cannot fathom how anyone could put Ohio St. in the top 4.

The only Big Ten team that could sniff that would have been Michigan St.....and they crapped the bed against the Buckeyes. Ohio St. lost at home to a bad Virginia Tech team. They can't recover from that unless everyone else has 2 or more losses.

 

[FAB802]

Ohio State isn't that good, the Big Ten doesn't have a team good enough to be in the top four this season. MSU blew it, but that game showed they just can't handle that kind of speed. Frankly, there really is no match up I have to see, nobody is great this year so whichever of the four end up there have a chance to win it.

 

[sullysezso71]

1. Bama 2. FSU 3.TCU 4. Iowa Hawkeyes

 

[steeltruckin]

Ohio St lost to Virginia because they were breaking in a new QB. They have improved since then.

 

[Vader]

Ohio St lost to Virginia because they were breaking in a new QB. They have improved since then.

They haven't played anyone except M. State. Also unless their QB plays defense they lost to Virginia T. because they gave up 35 points. Looking at their schedule (Kent St., Rutgers, Illinois, Maryland, Cinn, Navy, and Penn State) I wouldn't let them sniff the top 4. Oh they finish the season against a 3 win Indiana team.