This is the funny thing with the "he won with Cowhers players" argument. Such is the life in the NFL. Just look at Matt LaFleur, WILDY praised for what he has done his first three seasons as the Packers HC. 13-3, 13-3, 8-3 (this year). So wouldn't he be winning with McCarthy's players? And lets just say we get a new HC, and he has early success... does that get held against him because he has Tomlin's players? It's just really a dumb argument.
Cowher hasn't even won **** with Cowher players.. you can say Ben covered for him as well.
The legend of Cowher becomes more and more impressive the longer away he has been. There were just as many fire Cowher threads back in the day.
Fixed that for ya.
I'm not taking anything away from Cowher, that's impressive. But the NFL these days is alot different than they were in those days. Just looking at our playoff loss last year, how can you blame Tomlin for that? Ben threw 4 Ints and puncey had that high snap for a defensive touchdown the first play of the game.. you can't blame any coach for things that happen on the field that you can't control. And why are we counting playoff wins and losses? The only real win that matters is when you win it all and last time I checked they both won 1 lambardi each.
Funny thing about that. Ben had three years with Cowher and won the SB with their second year as a coach/QB combo. Then in his second year with Tomlin as a coach/QB combo, they won a SB. And, given that Ben has played 15 of his 18 years with Tomlin as his HC, can you really say he's a "Cowher player"? He developed all that he knew and became all that he ever was under Cowher? That argument is weak.
We got to 3 Super Bowls in 6 years but none of those years did we have to face the Pats in the playoffs. Twice Denver took them out in Denver and one year Br*dy was on IR and they slipped just enough to lose a freaky tiebreaker with the Jets.
2005 team was the first 6th seed team to win the SB and the first team with all their playoff games on the road to win a SB. I think since then one other team accomplished that feat.
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Maybe we beat them if we do face them. Who knows
Doubtful. We never have in multiple attempts. The Belicheat/Br*dy style of offense was Dick Lebeau's kryptonite. What the Pats offense did best is what LeBeau's defense did worst. Some teams are just a bad matchup. If LeBeau couldn't figure out how to stop short and medium passes, then Butler, who has only half as many brain cells as LeBeau, has no chance.
We already saw that in 2019 without Ben for 14.5 games and it's 8-8. We see at this point that Tomlin's ceiling is 10 or 11 wins and with a lesser QB it's reasonable to assume at least 2 less wins. I don't think he's a bad coach, I think he's a good coach but not a great coach. Great coaches win playoff games.
I think if you check Cowher's playoff win percentage vs. Mike's, you may find otherwise.