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You know what you need? A government run 401k plan!

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The Portable Retirement and Investment Act of 2018 (H.R. 6990), just introduced in the House by Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT), would establish something called a “Portable Retirement and Investment Account” (PRIA) that would be opened at birth (or whenever one files for a Social Security number). The bill provides for a $500 federal government contribution for children whose parents qualify for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and, like the defunct MyRA program, caps the initial account at $15,000 when the holder turns 18, and then provides for transfer to another PRIA.

But wait! There's more!
And that’s where things start to get “complicated.”

PRIAs would be overseen by a board and a director, the latter selected by the President from among members of the board.[SUP]1[/SUP] The PRIA trustee will act as a fiduciary to the account “…under rules similar to those applicable to an ERISA fiduciary under section 404 of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974,” specifically that they are to discharge their duties in the sole interest of the account holder.
As for contributions – the legislation provides that any employer who permits wages to be paid by electronic funds transfer “shall” permit workers to direct a portion of their wages to their PRIA. It also allows employers to establish automatic enrollment/contributions into the PRIA. There are limits to those contributions, matching those of 401(k), 403(b) and 457 plans ($18,500 in 2018), and a provision for catch-up contributions ($6,000 in 2018). In another familiar element, employer contributions are allowed – although at this point, the bill’s reference to nondiscrimination testing is pretty vague.
Distributions from PRIAs can be rolled over without incurring taxes, if done so within 60 days – but only to another PRIA or an annuity. While PRIA balances are ineligible for rollover to qualified plans, the legislation would permit rollovers from 401(k), 403(b), 457, or 409A accounts into PRIAs.
Speaking of distributions, at a participant level, the rules that apply to ERISA qualified plans are mirrored here; counted as gross income (and taxed accordingly), 10% penalty applied if distribution occurs before age 59½, exceptions for distributions made on account of disability or unemployment after age 55. Loans are permitted, subject to the same basic rules on repayment and taxation that apply to qualified plans.
One might well wonder why the congressman would feel the need to construct a parallel (and largely identical) alternative to the current private retirement system. And then you realize that the legislation calls on the PRIA director to, “each year on a competitive basis,” award a contract to “an entity” in the private sector to act as trustee of all portable retirement and investment accounts, and that each PRIA is to be invested in a lifecycle fund provided by the trustee.
The Board is directed to manage the fund in the same manner as the federal government’s Thrift Savings Fund.
In essence, the bill constructs a single-provider system established and overseen by the federal government, one that in other respects seems designed not only to replicate many of the key aspects of the private sector’s current system – except that when it comes to rollovers, it’s a one-way street.
Or, as American Retirement Association CEO Brian Graff explains it, “This is yet another example of a member of Congress thinking that the government always does it better. It’s particularly galling to introduce this while they are finally close to getting open MEPs enacted. Could they at least give that a chance first!”
Footnote


  1. The director is to be drawn from a member of the PRIA Board which is to oversee the program – a board consisting of:
    • 3 members appointed by the Secretary of the Treasury
    • 3 members appointed by the Secretary of Labor
    • 2 members appointed by the PBGC
    • 1 member appointed by the Director of the Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection.
 
SWEET FANCY MOSES!
Just when you think you haven't seen/heard it all.
This is such a bad idea that would have MONUMENTAL ramifications.
 
Are they going to put it in lockbox? Like i would trust those corrupt losers with my retirement. I will not submit to this willingly.
 
No thanks...

Although....Im not real happy with Edward Jones at the moment..

Any recommendations on FA's out there?
 
I wouldn't contribute one penny to that.

The goal of course would be to ultimately insist that the government does a better job than the private sector and then seize everyone's current 401K accounts. There's a big pile of money out there that they are just itching to get their hands on.
 
I wouldn't contribute one penny to that.

The goal of course would be to ultimately insist that the government does a better job than the private sector and then seize everyone's current 401K accounts. There's a big pile of money out there that they are just itching to get their hands on.

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Oh they will raid that **** like no other. Then they will have to tax more to repay what they steal. I'm sure that's their next project should they come back into power. Get your hands on that retirement money. Take control.
 
I guarandamntee you their sights are on our retirement funds. Hey Joe Bob who did not like to study in school and totally wasted his "free" taxpayer funded K-12 education works on and off, when he feels like it and could not afford healthcare so those who worked hard to get him his education, now work harder for poor Joe Bob to have healthcare. you know poor ol Joe Bob won't have enough money to retire because he has set aside no money for retirement and couldn't afford to anyway, Guess where Joe Bob's retirement account will come from? Cradle to Grave support for generations to come brought to you by The Democrats. Because doing right has got no end.
 
How bout we just privatize SSI?

Does the same thing and gets politicians hands off our money.
 
There's too much money out there in savings and investments that the govt can't get their hands on.
 
An esteemed three-person panel will be in charge of looking after your money:

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Those three will be backed up by the best law enforcement in the nation:

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/thousa...-retirement-it-didnt-work-1539095250?mod=e2fb.... California invested billions in pension funds in pine trees only to sell them at a loss because of depressed prices cause everyone else did the same thing.... good job making a sound business decision rather than an pr friendly environmentally driven decision and catching the problem before it was too late... oh wait....
 
why not just let the government control all aspects of money and let them pay our bills and give us an allowance?
 
FWIW, I have several accounts with Schwab.

The lady I deal with checks in with me about every 6 weeks and we go over adjustments. She's very knowledgeable and personable.
 
How long before they say it's not fair that all the benefits are going to the wealthy and you have to share with everyone else.
 
FWIW, I have several accounts with Schwab.

The lady I deal with checks in with me about every 6 weeks and we go over adjustments. She's very knowledgeable and personable.

Just FYI, Schwab is an extremely liberal company. I used to work for them. HQ in San Francisco and those San Fran "values" come through and through within the company.
 
FWIW, I have several accounts with Schwab.

The lady I deal with checks in with me about every 6 weeks and we go over adjustments. She's very knowledgeable and personable.

Just FYI, Schwab is an extremely liberal company. I used to work for them. HQ in San Francisco and those San Fran "values" come through and through within the company.
 
How long before they say it's not fair that all the benefits are going to the wealthy and you have to share with everyone else.

They already talk about that in legislative circles in the vein of "Is the government getting it's money's worth out of the private retirement system?" As if it was their money to start with and they need to "get their money's worth" by having the "right" percentage going to the group of their choosing.
 
I have a 401K and an IRA. So soon they will say I’m an evil 1%er like Ark.
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/thousa...-retirement-it-didnt-work-1539095250?mod=e2fb.... California invested billions in pension funds in pine trees only to sell them at a loss because of depressed prices cause everyone else did the same thing.... good job making a sound business decision rather than an pr friendly environmentally driven decision and catching the problem before it was too late... oh wait....

It's not like they were already underfunded...oh, wait.
 
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