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The Epstein Problem

'Tis truly an existential crisis within MAGA ranks.

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Serious question. What is the jurisdiction for what happened on his island? Who’s laws apply?

The usual laws of the U.S. Virgin Islands applied to the island.


Legal system​

The U.S. Virgin Islands have a Superior Court and Supreme Court.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#cite_note-www.cia.gov-56"><span>[</span>54<span>]</span></a> The District Court of the Virgin Islands is responsible for cases brought under federal law, and the U.S. attorney for the District of the Virgin Islands can bring federal criminal cases there. The Superior Court is responsible for hearing cases under U.S. Virgin Islands law at the trial level, and the Supreme Court is responsible for appeals from the Superior Court for all appeals filed on or after January 29, 2007.[<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources. (July 2019)">citation needed</span></a></em>] (Appeals filed prior to that date were heard by the Appellate Division of the District Court.) Appeals from the federal District Court are heard by the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, located in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.[<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources. (July 2019)">citation needed</span></a></em>] District Court judges are appointed by the U.S. president, while Superior Court and Supreme Court judges are appointed by the governor.

As of 2019, the USVI courts apply both American common law<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#cite_note-63"><span>[</span>61<span>]</span></a> and the 2019 US Virgin Islands Code as passed by the territorial legislature. Because the USVI is not a state and Congress has not determined otherwise, the federal district court is an Article IV tribunal, subject to the authority of the United States secretary of the interior and without lifetime appointment for judges. Elements of Danish law have all been repealed, except for two 1914 laws having to do with customs and ship duties for St. Thomas and St. John.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#cite_note-64"><span>[</span>62<span>]</span></a>

Attorneys who practice law in the U.S. Virgin Islands must be admitted to the Virgin Islands Bar through either a bar exam or meeting certain requirements for admission on the basis of experience in another reciprocal jurisdiction.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#cite_note-65"><span>[</span>63<span>]</span></a> The bar exam consists of a standard American Bar Association multistate exam and a local law essay exam. As in the mainland United States, attorneys practice in a variety of settings including private law firms, government, or corporate offices.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Virgin_Islands#cite_note-66"><span>[</span>64<span>]</span></a>
 
that's awfully rich coming from someone who exceedingly trusted the government for eight years.

As difficult as it may be, instead of focusing on me, why not direct your ire at the President, who is absolutely blasting his supporters right now. He's laying into the whole lot of you, for daring to think for yourselves. Pretty ominous, if you ask me.
 
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As difficult as it may be, instead of focusing on me, why not direct your ire at the President, who is absolutely blasting his supporters right now. He's laying into the whole lot of you, for daring to think for yourselves. Pretty ominous, if you ask me.
You've found a breadcrumb and run with it. We all agree this needs to be resolved, yet you choose to slight those that support this President on nearly every other issue.
Be better and you may find common ground on issues rather than feelings.
 
The files will not get released.
The media is only running this story to hurt Trump. They know the owners of the media are on the list.
And just because they are on the list means next to nothing.
Where is the evidence against anyone?
Where was the obsession the last 4 years under Biden?
 
The files will not get released.
The media is only running this story to hurt Trump. They know the owners of the media are on the list.
And just because they are on the list means next to nothing.
Where is the evidence against anyone?
Where was the obsession the last 4 years under Biden?
That's as good of reasoning as anything else.
 
What would happen if a list of Epstein clients was released?

We wish they would all be exposed and punished but, get real. Nothing happens to any of them. Ever. Not Trump, not Obama, not Biden. Different tier of justice for the elites. So, while us peasants argue and tear each other down, the kings and queens dance.

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If it was a honey trap intelligence operation brought to us by the Mossad and CIA, it'll never see the light of day in this life any more than JFK. These are powers that be who transcend national boundaries and political movements.

 
'Tis truly an existential crisis within MAGA ranks.

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Not really.

There are some who are very vocal about it. There are a subset of the online people that are ragebaiting with it. Then of course there are leftists like yourself trying to sew division in conservative ranks. But most of us understand this is a situation where the CIA/Mossad were running a Kompromat operation and for that reason the full story is not going to see the light of day.
 
Both Republicans and Democrats have had access to this info. There are clearly people on both sides implicated, otherwise one or the other would have more than happily released it by now. Mutually assured destruction.

Not a good look for him, demanding people forget all about it after he pushed full disclosure for years. Bizarre, but nothing he does surprises me. His ego tells him that his supporters will leap to his defense no matter what, and he's right about a lot of them.
In 2019 he pushed for a full investigation.

Why would he if he had something to hide?
Consider the part in bold.

When asked about his retweet in an interview, Trump said "what we're saying is we want an investigation. I want a full investigation, and that's what I absolutely am demanding. That's what our attorney general -- our great attorney general -- is doing."

Pressed further on if he really believed the Clintons were involved, Trump didn't shut it down.

"I have no idea," he said, but encouraged further questions. "So you have to ask: Did Bill Clinton go to the island? That's the question. If you find that out, you're going to know a lot," Trump said at the time.
 
As difficult as it may be, instead of focusing on me, why not direct your ire at the President, who is absolutely blasting his supporters right now. He's laying into the whole lot of you, for daring to think for yourselves. Pretty ominous, if you ask me.

Come to think of it I don’t recall your take on the demonrats blasting each other after Trumps landslide win.
 
As difficult as it may be, instead of focusing on me, why not direct your ire at the President, who is absolutely blasting his supporters right now. He's laying into the whole lot of you, for daring to think for yourselves. Pretty ominous, if you ask me.
so instead of focusing on the person screaming loudest about this, despite being quieter than a church mouse for four years+ (since you helped the absolute spread of the Gyna Virus in Hungary, Covid Tibseed) I should focus on the person who was wanting it opened, but now says there's nothing... and if history has taught us anything is that Trump rarely ever shows his hand at first pass.

As Ogurr grunted, this was an Israeli Mossad operation. We've pointed out Ghislaine's connections to Mossad in this very thread. That alone will get **** swept under the rug.

Now, if she's Hitleryed prior to speaking to Congress about what happened on the island, things might start going sideways for even the goobermint pedos. So on one hand, we can hope she is, on the other hand it will be wild if she's allowed to speak in front of Congress and tell all.
 
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this is comical, the conservative base has always been about less government and we were the people standing against the clot shot, even when Trump was pushing warp speed and yelling at us, his base, to get it. The left is who blindly follows orders. How many shots did you get again? how many times did you tell us to "trust the science, aka Trust the government"? yeah, exactly. good little lemming.
 
this is comical, the conservative base has always been about less government and we were the people standing against the clot shot, even when Trump was pushing warp speed and yelling at us, his base, to get it. The left is who blindly follows orders. How many shots did you get again? how many times did you tell us to "trust the science, aka Trust the government"? yeah, exactly. good little lemming.
And that commie pos was adamant that the Russia hoax was true because he had inside information and we should all trust the esteemed Bob Mueller. ******* liar.
 
this is comical, the conservative base has always been about less government and we were the people standing against the clot shot, even when Trump was pushing warp speed and yelling at us, his base, to get it. The left is who blindly follows orders. How many shots did you get again? how many times did you tell us to "trust the science, aka Trust the government"? yeah, exactly. good little lemming.
Ze's typing up a reply, but is being safe about it. Masked up and wearing gloves with zer screen covered in plastic to prevent virus transmission as well.
 
 
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Why are you making this exclusive to MAGA?
Our elected crooks are duplicitous.
It matters not what side of the isle they sit.
And this same mantra has also been repeatedly used by Dems, most notably in the late 60s hippie era.
It's not exclusive to one party.
 
Why are you making this exclusive to MAGA?
Our elected crooks are duplicitous.
It matters not what side of the isle they sit.
And this same mantra has also been repeatedly used by Dems, most notably in the late 60s hippie era.
It's not exclusive to one party.
He has much hate for hard working Americans
 
Why are you making this exclusive to MAGA?
Our elected crooks are duplicitous.
It matters not what side of the isle they sit.
And this same mantra has also been repeatedly used by Dems, most notably in the late 60s hippie era.
It's not exclusive to one party.
because none of this happened under Black Jesus or President Autopen
everything in the world was humming right along
 
It's obvious that the dems are doubling down on this because it looks bad for DJT. It does.

It's not so obvious why he is not moving on it. I know tibsypoo wants it to be that DJT is on the list many times. I seriously doubt that. I'm thinking, based on how he works, that there is something in the works. He still could handle it better, IMO.

He's not perfect. Far better than any body, alive or almost dead, that the dems want, but he isn't perfect. I still bet that we see a list someday.
 
It's obvious that the dems are doubling down on this because it looks bad for DJT. It does.
FFS, he campaigned on promises to use the Epstein list to incriminate and prosecute democrats, you’re goddamn right they’re doubling down.
It's not so obvious why he is not moving on it. I know tibsypoo wants it to be that DJT is on the list many times. I seriously doubt that.
Please review the history of Trumps statements, rape and sexual assault allegations against him, including one that led to him being found liable, and his close relationship with Epstein, and then get back to us on why anyone would seriously doubt him being on the list.
I'm thinking, based on how he works, that there is something in the works.
Nah, that’s just what you’re hoping for.
He still could handle it better, IMO.
😂 Handle it better? He couldn’t handle it any worse!
He's not perfect. Far better than any body, alive or almost dead, that the dems want, but he isn't perfect. I still bet that we see a list someday.
😂 Not perfect? He’s a narcissistic sociopath. A truly awful person. You’re worshipping a false prophet and can’t bring yourself to face it.
 
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