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Dulac reports Art growing impatient and frustrated

steelhurt said:
I think first and foremost Art wants Tomlin to become the Steelers’ all time win leader. Should be getting close to that record but as far as I’m concerned he ranks third behind the Emperor Noll and William Cowher.
I will also add, I’ve never seen the board here almost to a man or woman be ready for the great Tomlin to move on with his life’s work.
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He’s six games behind Noll in regular season wins, 14 if you count playoffs. If Rooney has any sense of history and the memory of Noll, he won’t let this happen.
 
Skott said:
Cowherd teams always played with fight to win..

Tomlinson teams are weak and they get fat paychecks…they don’t care as much as the guys did

Giving Heyward and Watt that much money is a joke!
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Cowherd and Tomlinson, know them, but don’t you mean Hayworth and What?
 
WindyCitySteel said:
He’s six games behind Noll in regular season wins, 14 if you count playoffs. If Rooney has any sense of history and the memory of Noll, he won’t let this happen.
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He's 3 superbowls behind Noll. I think that record of 4-0 is safe for all time with the Steelers.

Fortunately for Tomlin he didn't have to build a champion, it was already built.

That's what I count.Championships! It's all that really matters. A moment in time when you became the very best at what you do. The last man standing.
 
bkwheat28 said:
All told I really think they’re just hoping to limp to that team all time wins record to hang their hat on. Kind of akin to that stupid feed AB the ball with short screen passes just to keep that stupid X amount of catches with X amount of yards. Kinda loses its luster to me if you have to force feed it and it doesn’t happen naturally in both cases 🤷🏻‍♂️
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I think it's the never a losing season that is the driving force at the moment. I'm kind of hoping if the Steelers don't get playoff wins this year, they have a losing record so the never a losing season thing can be put to bed (I still prefer getting to the AFC championship game). Hopefully if it is a losing season they blow the whole thing up (preferably including Art II and Tomlin, but it probably needs more than one losing season for Tomlin to be canned).
 
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SteelerSask2 said:
I think you have to look at the Pats and Packers situations. The Pats had unprecidented success. It looked like it dried up after Brady left and the sign stealer was gone. They cleaned house had a terrible year. Hired a good coach and are back in the real mix.
Packers let the guy who beat Tomlin in the SB go. Hes already gone again and they again play more legit contention.
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I wouldn't crown the Pats yet - they've had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Yes, they beat Buffalo, but apart from that they have played bottom feeders. Let's see how they go against the Bucs, Bengals (if they have Burrow), Ravens and the return Bills game (and playoffs if/when they make it).
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
I wouldn't crown the Pats yet - they've had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Yes, they beat Buffalo, but apart from that they have played bottom feeders. Let's see how they go against the Bucs, Bengals (if they have Burrow), Ravens and the return Bills game (and playoffs if/when they make it).
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Well clearly its a long way to go till they are in the real mix. But they are beating teams by 20. Its not like the Steelers when they are considered contenders beating **** teams by 12 and that'sa blowout for them. And never really pounding anyone. Cause there are no style points. Im here to tell you there are style points.
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
I wouldn't crown the Pats yet - they've had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Yes, they beat Buffalo, but apart from that they have played bottom feeders. Let's see how they go against the Bucs, Bengals (if they have Burrow), Ravens and the return Bills game (and playoffs if/when they make it).
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Bengals play the Pats November 23rd, Burrow wont be back until sometime in December, at the earliest
 
Sarge said:
Good article, but he didn’t go nearly far enough. The Pittsburgh media has to lose its fear of criticizing Mike Tomlin and call for his ouster. Every living, breathing human being can see where the problem lies and has lain for years. Yeah, the Steelers may fall into coaching purgatory for a while, and may be awful for a while. You can’t move forward if you’re standing still, and that’s what the Steelers are doing right now.
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This... while moving on from Tomlin we might have a bunch of down years....as a fan I can live with that as long as you can the franchise growing...have a plan in place....moving forward. Yeah I might ***** and moan in these down years. That is just being a fan. Anything is better than trotting out the same lame thing week in and week out for years and expecting different results.
 
Superman said:
i'm fairly certain all of us would help Tomlin pack. Except @Steeltime - since he has a MT tattoo on his chest. The absolute best time to have fired him was when last season ended. Putrid and horrible product put out by him. We could have been starting over with a fresh, new coach like Ben Johnson.
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Mike Tomlin and Steeltime ... both have never had a losing season! Also, over the past 8 years, Mikey and I have the same number of playoff wins.

Historic!

Aussie_Steeler said:
I think it's the never a losing season that is the driving force at the moment. I'm kind of hoping if the Steelers don't get playoff wins this year, they have a losing record so the never a losing season thing can be put to bed (I still prefer getting to the AFC championship game). Hopefully if it is a losing season they blow the whole thing up (preferably including Art II and Tomlin, but it probably needs more than one losing season for Tomlin to be canned).
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"Only had one losing season" will soon be the motto.

Mike Tomlin ... here to make football fans appreciate the greatness of Joe Flacco and to remind us that in the NFL, no lead is safe. Well, no lead with Tomlin running the show.
 
Steeltime said:
Mike Tomlin and Steeltime ... both have never had a losing season! Also, over the past 8 years, Mikey and I have the same number of playoff wins.

Historic!



"Only had one losing season" will soon be the motto.

Mike Tomlin ... here to make football fans appreciate the greatness of Joe Flacco and to remind us that in the NFL, no lead is safe. Well, no lead with Tomlin running the show.
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Mikey has a losing record in the playoffs that no one wants to talk about. He's 8-11 overall and just 3-9 in the last 12 playoffs. That is embarrassing.
 
stillwright said:
This... while moving on from Tomlin we might have a bunch of down years....as a fan I can live with that as long as you can the franchise growing...have a plan in place....moving forward. Yeah I might ***** and moan in these down years. That is just being a fan. Anything is better than trotting out the same lame thing week in and week out for years and expecting different results.
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I wonder about that. I have long argued that sometimes players have to just make plays. And I think that's true. Coaching can not account for everything that happens on the football field. At the same time, Steeler players have not been put in the best position to succeed. Both things can be true at once. I like to see if a different staff could get more out of the young talent that is there, because I think there is some. Maybe in that case the down years aren't really that long.
 
steelhurt said:
According to Jerry Dulac, he states he wouldn’t call Steeler management including Art, angry but did state more like frustrated and growing impatient.
Hmm! Now if they get slammed this Sunday at home against the Colts then at LA, this could get most interesting.
Art simply cannot be pleased spending tons of money for an old, underperforming, overpriced, overrated defense.
This is Tomlin’s baby! These are the players he wanted, talked up this defense, and now it implodes.
How can he possibly justify any of this mess.
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Fans should strike while the iron is warming to a very cool temperature with the “fire Tomlin” chants should his historic D start ******** the bed vs the Colts…maybe after the first embarrassing TD as a guy breaks wide open
 
diver said:
And to think after they lost in the 2004 AFCC game, many on here wanted him gone. If he had hadn't won it yet, he never will was the prevalent thought.

That's is not some kind of support of Tomlin to remain the head coach, btw. It's just the truth about how it was then.
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And then the savior Big Ben came along, saved Cowher’s career and made Mike a made man.

I blame Ben for Mike still being here
And Art cuz he’s too dumb to see it
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
I wouldn't crown the Pats yet - they've had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Yes, they beat Buffalo, but apart from that they have played bottom feeders. Let's see how they go against the Bucs, Bengals (if they have Burrow), Ravens and the return Bills game (and playoffs if/when they make it).
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AND…the Pats coughed up 5 Turnovers to worst defense in the NFL, a historically bad defense…costing them a game they never should’ve lost
 
Fiji Mariner said:
And then the savior Big Ben came along, saved Cowher’s career and made Mike a made man.

I blame Ben for Mike still being here
And Art cuz he’s too dumb to see it
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That's just it, yeah Cowher needed Ben to get over the Super Bowl hump, but he made a Super Bowl and 2 AFCCG's with Neil Odonnel, made 2 AFCCG's with Kordell, and was a Joe Nedney Oscar award winning performance away from getting there with Tommy Maddox. All I hear from Ryan Clark, Arthur Moats, and other National guys defending Tomlin saying well you can't expect him to win in the post season, look who his QB's are. GTFOH, if you're a HOF coach you can win a game here or there without a Franchise QB.
 
Coryea said:
That's just it, yeah Cowher needed Ben to get over the Super Bowl hump, but he made a Super Bowl and 2 AFCCG's with Neil Odonnel, made 2 AFCCG's with Kordell, and was a Joe Nedney Oscar award winning performance away from getting there with Tommy Maddox. All I hear from Ryan Clark, Arthur Moats, and other National guys defending Tomlin saying well you can't expect him to win in the post season, look who his QB's are. GTFOH, if you're a HOF coach you can win a game here or there without a Franchise QB.
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I would argue every coach needs a great QB to get over the hump. 51 Super Bowls. Less than 10 of those were won by QBs that may not have been great.
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Fans should strike while the iron is warming to a very cool temperature with the “fire Tomlin” chants should his historic D start ******** the bed vs the Colts…maybe after the first embarrassing TD as a guy breaks wide open
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Oh if they keep trotting that same **** show out week after week it's going to 100% happen.
 
diver said:
I would argue every coach needs a great QB to get over the hump. 51 Super Bowls. Less than 10 of those were won by QBs that may not have been great.
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How many playoff games have been won by QB's that weren't great?
 
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