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Cam, rising or falling………………..HOF ?

xjx said:
Welcome Pola. If you talk too much its ok. Many others here do it to.
Let it rip!
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Sargent Shultz "I know noTHing"

I try to never over-speak and contribute waistless bits of information.

ALL business here......................... !!!!!!




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Polambertberger said:
OK since I have been a tad ruthless in my posts I'll share a little about me since I'm new and you think I live in my parents basement. Lol I have been watching the Steelers for 50 years now (I'm 57). Never played organized football because it always interfered with my wrestling career but my pops played college ball and I had the genes and always wanted to play because my violent, aggressive and analytical nature really was suited for that sport. I LOVE football and spend entirely too much time on the God darn sport. I've dreamed of getting into coaching. Who knows maybe one day that window will.open up for me.ive read posts on here for decades and finally decided to start chiming in. Yes I can be a bit demeaning in my posts if I read something I think is stupid but I don't know everything and there is always someone smarter than me so I expect some blowback from time to.time. in the end regardless of what I say about any of you, we are all in this together and we all dream of a 7th and what a glorious day that will be. I was at the last one in Tampa and man I think the best part of that whole experience was afterwards......just mingling with Steeler faithful high on Lombardi outside the stadium......what a great thing.......can't wait for the next one. BTW im.just bored out of my mind right now so I've been posting a lot. Hope to make some friends and enemies here LMAO......frankly this board is at its best when we mirror the comradarie and competitiveness of what takes place on the field.
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Welcome aboard, you'll fit right in.

We all have STEELERS in common but are in different stages of our journey.




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SteelerSask2 said:
One thing we all gotta grow up about is that they all play for whoever writes the cheque. And they all want as big a number as they can command.
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Agreed.....crying about monies after signing on the dotted line the year before is a ***** move. And then again the following year. Maybe the NFL should just go to 1 year contracts.🤔
 
The only thing I can be truly guilty of is that my posts are long winded.......I'm not for everyone. People who are attracted to Shiney objects and can't focus or want cliff notes will hate me. Those who like getting into the weeds of things will appreciate my diatribes =)
 
stillwright said:
Agreed.....crying about monies after signing on the dotted line the year before is a ***** move. And then again the following year. Maybe the NFL should just go to 1 year contracts.🤔
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I didn't like it either but if you signed a contract and played way above your contract and your agent was behind you asking for more, would you ask for more? I mean they can say no and you can either show up or not show up and not get paid. On the other hand you could get more. In the corporate world they rewrite contracts and comp all the time when employees outperform to keep.them.happy. In the corporate world and the NFL people get fired if they don't live up.to.their contract all the time. It rubbed me the wrong way too but that's only because im selfish for my team and want as much money as possible to.sign others but can you truly hold it against the man for asking?
 
Polambertberger said:
The only thing I can be truly guilty of is that my posts are long winded.......I'm not for everyone. People who are attracted to Shiney objects and can't focus or want cliff notes will hate me. Those who like getting into the weeds of things will appreciate my diatribes =)
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and some just dont like wind bags.. Thats all.
 
SteelerSask2 said:
One thing we all gotta grow up about is that they all play for whoever writes the cheque. And they all want as big a number as they can command.
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Been preaching that for years, not the grow up part, but the money chasing part for sure.

Many here think it’s a travesty for TJ to not have won a playoff game.

The bigger travesty is the Steelers not winning a playoff game the entire time he has been here.

For TJ, he gets his money (which it has always been about to him) and us fans get no playoff wins.




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Polambertberger said:
I didn't like it either but if you signed a contract and played way above your contract and your agent was behind you asking for more, would you ask for more? I mean they can say no and you can either show up or not show up and not get paid. On the other hand you could get more. In the corporate world they rewrite contracts and comp all the time when employees outperform to keep.them.happy. In the corporate world and the NFL people get fired if they don't live up.to.their contract all the time. It rubbed me the wrong way too but that's only because im selfish for my team and want as much money as possible to.sign others but can you truly hold it against the man for asking?
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How about when they under-perform or get injured and only play 5 Games for the season ?

Will the player “Give-Back” the appropriate amount of said contract ?

EDIT: Contracts aren’t like groceries store, you don’t get a certain amount of items for a designated price. That is why the re-negotiation of a contract happens less by the team. They are paying for a designated length of a contract with the risk of sub-play within that contract. Cam did something that was not normal practice and was using sub-par means of doing so. That is why the sour taste in that regards of him “asking” for more.


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Polambertberger said:
I didn't like it either but if you signed a contract and played way above your contract and your agent was behind you asking for more, would you ask for more? I mean they can say no and you can either show up or not show up and not get paid. On the other hand you could get more. In the corporate world they rewrite contracts and comp all the time when employees outperform to keep.them.happy. In the corporate world and the NFL people get fired if they don't live up.to.their contract all the time. It rubbed me the wrong way too but that's only because im selfish for my team and want as much money as possible to.sign others but can you truly hold it against the man for asking?
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Meh.....Cam made his money throughout his career. More than enough. Crying year to year about money was a ***** move. Especially since the year before he had a horrible injury laided season. Will it affect his HOF chances? Nope. Sure does leave a bad taste in the mouth of some fans though.

Love when people bring the corporate world into play. The players signed their CBA.....That's on them.
 
Polambertberger said:
The only thing I can be truly guilty of is that my posts are long winded.......I'm not for everyone. People who are attracted to Shiney objects and can't focus or want cliff notes will hate me. Those who like getting into the weeds of things will appreciate my diatribes =)
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Try paragraphing at some point going forward. Helps break it all up between breaths.
 
Polambertberger said:
Critical thinking lol. Dude I watched Dalton play enough........the dude had a few decent years and the rest of his years have been slop. I can't believe you compare Dalton to Cam. Cam has been one of the best at his position during his career. Was he the best? No but he has been one of the best at his position. You bring up.total.passing yards as your basis for comparing him to Cam? Seriously? He has an all time QB ranking that puts him on par with Geno Smith and Jeff Garcia and frankly they had some decent years filled with a bunch of slop. So essentially you are saying Cam Heyward is the Geno Smith or Jeff Garcia of interior defensive lineman of his era when Smith, Garcia and Dalton all put together didn't sniff an all.pro when Cam.has had 6. Some of younare starting to.sound like Eagles fans with your assessment of NFL play
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Meh
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Top rated IDL at 36 years old per PFF. Top rated in 2024. Top 5 rated 4 of the last 5 seasons.

Who are you 20 IDL that Cam isn't really close to?
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I think I'm more curious how Andy Dalton ranks 25-30 all-time. I don't put him in the top 30 of the 21st century.
 
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