NFL Player Enters College Transfer Portal

[tapeANaspirin2it]

There was a recent court ruling that said you could go back to college if you still have eligibility, even if you've played in the pros. We may see a bunch of late round guys decide to go back and try the draft again in 27 rather than sit on a practice squad.

Should Kaleb Johnson think about it?

 

[slashsteel]

I could see that happening for players for sure especially if there is some coin involved. They make money on the PS so I am sure that would be a difficult decide for some.

 

[Badcat]

This world is getting more and more bizzaro, man.

 

[Djfan]

If they did that, why would the team that drafted them, or got them under contract, have to lose that player's rights? It seems that they drafted them, so they are in the "minor league" but still a player for that team.

 

[Drink IRON City]

If they did that, why would the team that drafted them, or got them under contract, have to lose that player's rights? It seems that they drafted them, so they are in the "minor league" but still a player for that team.

You sure the drafted team doesn’t retain rights to the player should he return to the NFL……..

I guess it would come down to contract that was signed.

Probably most of the re-colleged players are bottom tier and respective teams are ok with them gone.

EDIT: If that questioned player actually made the practice squad, then the respective teams are should retain the rights to him. If the questioned player does not make the PS, then he is free to go fishing or snipe hunting.



Salute the nation

 

[topseed]

I could see that happening for players for sure especially if there is some coin involved. They make money on the PS so I am sure that would be a difficult decide for some.

NIL money in college can be a whole lot more lucrative than a practice squad salary for many players.

 

[madinsomniac]

There is a bill in the senate that will end this. Stupid idiots blocked it before the recess, but it should be passed soon..

It will give the NCAA antitrust exemptions that will invalidate all these jackass judicial rulings.

The problem is it also kneecaps conferences a bit so a bunch of dim bulbs are lobbying against it...

 

[madinsomniac]

Also the NFL should end the practice of letting a player sit out a year and then reentering the draft.. they should have their rights retained for five years or something once drafted...

 

[topseed]

There is a bill in the senate that will end this. Stupid idiots blocked it before the recess, but it should be passed soon..

It will give the NCAA antitrust exemptions that will invalidate all these jackass judicial rulings.

The problem is it also kneecaps conferences a bit so a bunch of dim bulbs are lobbying against it..

They're not going to get that bill through Congress...at least not in its current form. The important people in the Big Ten and SEC have big influence on too many members of the government.

What they really need to establish is a collective bargaining agreement at the collegiate level. But I'm not sure how that might be accomplished.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Also the NFL should end the practice of letting a player sit out a year and then reentering the draft.. they should have their rights retained for five years or something once drafted...

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Salute the nation

 

[madinsomniac]

They're not going to get that bill through Congress...at least not in its current form. The important people in the Big Ten and SEC have big influence on too many members of the government.

What they really need to establish is a collective bargaining agreement at the collegiate level. But I'm not sure how that might be accomplished.

They were down to a handful of votes needed last Friday, and its bipartisan ... its expected to eventually get passed... I think the SEC and Big Ten withdrew their opposition last i checked.. at least one did.. the hold up was lobbiest from schools who want to join a giant conference, cause it limits them to something like 20 teams .. and that wont hold up long...

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

If they did that, why would the team that drafted them, or got them under contract, have to lose that player's rights? It seems that they drafted them, so they are in the "minor league" but still a player for that team.

I would think they lose the rights once they cut a drafted player. If it’s a drafted player who is not cut, I’d think the team retains the rights.

For undrafted free agents, who knows?

It would be interesting to find out. Would be hilarious for the Browns to pick Arch #1 and he goes back to college.

 

[topseed]

They were down to a handful of votes needed last Friday, and its bipartisan ... its expected to eventually get passed... I think the SEC and Big Ten withdrew their opposition last i checked.. at least one did.. the hold up was lobbiest from schools who want to join a giant conference, cause it limits them to something like 20 teams .. and that wont hold up long...

A handful of votes? It never even reached the floor. And it needs 60 Senate votes in September to get to the House, where it would face more opposition. Not sure where you're gathering your information.

 

[madinsomniac]

A handful of votes? It never even reached the floor. And it needs 60 Senate votes in September to get to the House, where it would face more opposition. Not sure where you're gathering your information.

they wont let it reach the floor until they have a passing bill.. i was following it on pol sites before the summer recess... they thought they would get ot passed before that, but a few holdouts mucked it up..

Its not as far off as anyone is saying here.. there are basically 80 senators somewhat supporting it, but only 61 or 62 currently say they will vote for it without further amendments... most of which are minor or just bluster for voters.. again, plenty of articles out there about it...

Traditionally they dont bring something like this to vote with less than 65 or 66 certain votes... even though they only need 60 to get rid of the filibuster..

It will get a vote in September... just not in time to save this season from idiotic judicial rulings..

And yes, i looked it up.. the SEC and the Big Ten are currently supporting it.. its fringe schools fans holding it up..

 

[topseed]

they wont let it reach the floor until they have a passing bill.. i was following it on pol sites before the summer recess... they thought they would get ot passed before that, but a few holdouts mucked it up..

Its not as far off as anyone is saying here.. there are basically 80 senators somewhat supporting it, but only 61 or 62 currently say they will vote for it without further amendments... most of which are minor or just bluster for voters.. again, plenty of articles out there about it...

Traditionally they dont bring something like this to vote with less than 65 or 66 certain votes... even though they only need 60 to get rid of the filibuster..

It will get a vote in September... just not in time to save this season from idiotic judicial rulings..

And yes, i looked it up.. the SEC and the Big Ten are currently supporting it.. its fringe schools fans holding it up..

As I said, the bill would not pass in its original form. They've already more than doubled the revenue-sharing portion of it from $21.3 million to $48.8, which I'm sure has gone a long way in pacifying some of the Big Ten and SEC. Yet it still didn't pass. If they had the true support of "basically 80 senators," the bill would be in the House already. "Somewhat" support isn't enough, and there's still plenty of opposition and roadblocks ahead.

Believe me when I tell you that I am following this very closely, because it has a direct impact on me and my family.

 

[topseed]

From 247sports.com:​

Biddle: Does the 'Protect College Sports Act' have a chance at passing through Congress? Probably not​

Dave Biddle is not confident that the Protect College Sports Act will ever be signed into law. Why? He explains in this VIP column. Also giving their opinions are a local attorney, plus three other Bucknuts staffers.​

Dave Biddle Aug 18th, 9:25 AMVIP12


One thing a lot of people in college football have been pushing for is some type of guardrails when it comes to NIL, the transfer portal and more.

So, does the Protect College Sports Act have a legitimate chance of passing through Congress and becoming law? I strongly doubt it, but I hope I'm wrong. Let's take a close look.

While the PCSA is a "bipartisan" bill that is spearheaded by Senators Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Maria Cantwell (D-Washington), there is a growing number of bipartisan oppositions to the idea.

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They include Tommy Tuberville (R-Alabama), the Congressional Black Caucus and others. Also taking a stance against the bill are labor unions, such as the AFL-CIO.

Wait, we're just trying to protect college sports here. What's the problem?


Well, it's already been proven in several court cases that you cannot restrict player movement and cannot put a limit on what college athletes make via their name, image and likeness.

This bill would do both of those things, and more.

Furthermore, for the bill to pass through the Senate, it would need at least a 60/40 "super majority" (to avoid a filibuster). That alone appears to be a massive long shot given how many people already oppose the PCSA.

And even if the bill passes through the Senate, it would still need to pass through the House of Representatives, using the exact same language. The Cincinnati Reds might have a better chance of winning the World Series this year than the Protect College Sports Act has of passing through both the Senate and House.

We spoke with an attorney in Central Ohio who will remain anonymous in exchange for his candor.

"That bill won't pass," the attorney said. "It won't get through the Senate, let alone the House. Far too many issues with it and you have people on both sides who oppose it.

"The only realistic solution for college football to remove itself from the 'Wild West' is a CBA (collective bargaining agreement) where the players are legally employees of the university, otherwise all of this is a waste of time."

Yes, it appears as though a CBA is the only true way to solve these problems. Universities are by and large against making their athletes "employees" of their school, but at least in football (and men's and women's basketball, perhaps other sports like baseball in the South), that is the only realistic way of alleviating the situation. Hoping Congress can save college sports from itself is not a sound strategy.

At least that's my view on the situation. I also asked some of our Bucknuts staff members to chime in with their opinions on the matter.

Steve Helwagen: "Too many special interests are involved in the bill; too many cooks in the kitchen."

Garrick Hodge: "The college sports act is more wide-ranging than most administrators hoped it would be and frankly I don't think senators came with an agreement with the SEC and Big Ten until it was too late. The earliest they could bring this to the floor for a vote is September, and the longer this drags on, the more likely the priorities in Congress get shifted to other things (like Midterms). What that will mean for college sports going forward, who knows, but there's an uphill battle to get this legislation passed for sure."

And Patrick Murphy likely feels like the vast majority of college football fans regarding his take on the matter: "I don't know enough about it to have any relevant thoughts. I'll start reading up on these things when they actually pass/go into effect."

I have a strong guess that Mr. Murphy will never be reading up on the Protect College Sports Act.