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Joey Porter Jr.............................. not dad

I think Joey is looking at the clock and realizing that he will 28 by the time he can hit real free agency if he gets tagged next year. He won't command top dollar at that point and he is panicking. Along with bad advice from his egotistical dad. Greed ego and father time are making him make bad decisions.
Also, it's becoming clear if there is a trade market for Porter that he won't get an offer in free agency he wants either. Teams will give up a premium for a top CB. If the Steelers aren't even getting a 1st in any offers, that speaks volumes to what the rest of the league thinks about him. I think he's very good and worth a contract and at least a first, but I'm just a fan of the Steelers.
 
No, that isn’t at all what I am arguing. We are going back in time and you are putting words in my mouth I didn’t say. I am reference only the ability to pay guarantees. Period. That is all this discussion is and has been about. The net worth Is half of that particular issue the lack of outside revenue, which you continue to totally ignore, is th other half. They are hamstrung in tying working capital up in escrow to pay too many and too much in guarantees. That’s it. You extrapolated a much larger argument out of a simple fact directly linked to one issue. This is in direct response to the topic of signing Joey the diva Porter.
You’re making excuses for him-fact
 
You’re making excuses for him-fact
then the team ownership decided to use that cash to pay the owners rather than keep it in the company to fund escrow. That's really simple.
The NFL's antiquated "Funding Rule" dictates that when a team signs a player to a contract with future fully guaranteed money, the owner must deposit that cash into a third-party escrow account immediately.[1, 2]
Because the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals feature "traditional" family ownership models—where the franchise is the family’s primary source of wealth rather than an independently wealthy tech or retail mogul—this rule heavily restricts their cash flow. To protect their liquidity, both teams enforce a strict organizational policy against guaranteeing money beyond Year 1 of a contract. This creates an explicit friction point in player extensions, leading to distinct escrow and roster impacts.

1. Contract Structure Adjustments
To avoid parking tens of millions of dollars in a zero-interest escrow account, both front offices manipulate contract language rather than giving true future guarantees: [1]
    • The Bengals' "Pay-As-You-Go" Model: Instead of signing bonuses or future fully guaranteed salaries, Cincinnati relies heavily on large roster bonuses or option bonuses that trigger on specific dates early in a league year. If a player is on the roster by March, they get paid, but because it technically isn't "guaranteed at signing," the Browns avoid placing the cash into escrow immediately. [1, 2]
    • The Steelers' Traditional Precedent: Pittsburgh historically gives standard signing bonuses (which are paid immediately and don't require long-term escrow), but they strictly refuse to guarantee base salaries in years two, three, or four of a contract. [1]

2. Recent Standoffs and Roster Friction
Because elite players demand modern, fully guaranteed market security, these escrow-dodging policies have caused high-profile contract stalemates for both teams:
    • Joey Porter Jr. (Steelers): In September 2026, cornerback Joey Porter Jr. skipped practices and reportedly requested a trade due to a "complicated" contract standoff. Reports confirmed the issue wasn't the annual average salary, but the Steelers' refusal to cross their historic boundary of providing meaningful guarantees beyond year one. [1, 2, 3]
    • Shemar Stewart (Bengals): The Bengals faced a notable training camp holdout with their rookie first-round pick, Shemar Stewart, over a controversial clause designed to let the team easily void his guaranteed money for "detrimental conduct". The standoff only ended when Cincinnati compromised by softening the clause and accelerating part of his signing bonus to get him on the field. [1]

3. The Long-Term Impact
While this strategy maximizes the owners' liquid assets and prevents team funds from sitting idle, it hamstrings both franchises in free agency. Many elite, tier-one free agents refuse to sign with the Steelers or Bengals because they can get true, ironclad multi-year guarantees from "cash-flush" owners (like the Broncos' Walton family or the Panthers' David Tepper) who don't care about the immediate escrow penalty.
 
Joey Porter Jr. is worth a 1st round pick and I wouldn't trade him for any less.

There are already rumblings on ESPN radio and some stupid talking heads that Chicago, Detroit, Green Bay and a number of other teams around the league should be calling about Porter right now. As we get through the first 4 weeks, more teams are going to want him.

Again, I have no problem trading assets right now for picks. I think we are WAY far away from being a final-4 team in this league. And I would love to have 2 1st round picks in next years draft to help get a QB.
Well you want the Steelers to maximize return. If he was to walk the return would be a third round compensatory pick. I would settle for a second if that is all we / they could get.
 
Well you want the Steeler to maximize return. If he was to walk the return would be a third round compensatory pick. I would settle for a second if that is all we /they could get.
Not me I am a vindictive *** and would make him play or sit for three years ruining his career.
 
The NFL's antiquated "Funding Rule" dictates that when a team signs a player to a contract with future fully guaranteed money, the owner must deposit that cash into a third-party escrow account immediately.[1, 2]
Because the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals feature "traditional" family ownership models—where the franchise is the family’s primary source of wealth rather than an independently wealthy tech or retail mogul—this rule heavily restricts their cash flow. To protect their liquidity, both teams enforce a strict organizational policy against guaranteeing money beyond Year 1 of a contract. This creates an explicit friction point in player extensions, leading to distinct escrow and roster impacts.

1. Contract Structure Adjustments
To avoid parking tens of millions of dollars in a zero-interest escrow account, both front offices manipulate contract language rather than giving true future guarantees: [1]
    • The Bengals' "Pay-As-You-Go" Model: Instead of signing bonuses or future fully guaranteed salaries, Cincinnati relies heavily on large roster bonuses or option bonuses that trigger on specific dates early in a league year. If a player is on the roster by March, they get paid, but because it technically isn't "guaranteed at signing," the Browns avoid placing the cash into escrow immediately. [1, 2]
    • The Steelers' Traditional Precedent: Pittsburgh historically gives standard signing bonuses (which are paid immediately and don't require long-term escrow), but they strictly refuse to guarantee base salaries in years two, three, or four of a contract. [1]

2. Recent Standoffs and Roster Friction
Because elite players demand modern, fully guaranteed market security, these escrow-dodging policies have caused high-profile contract stalemates for both teams:
    • Joey Porter Jr. (Steelers): In September 2026, cornerback Joey Porter Jr. skipped practices and reportedly requested a trade due to a "complicated" contract standoff. Reports confirmed the issue wasn't the annual average salary, but the Steelers' refusal to cross their historic boundary of providing meaningful guarantees beyond year one. [1, 2, 3]
    • Shemar Stewart (Bengals): The Bengals faced a notable training camp holdout with their rookie first-round pick, Shemar Stewart, over a controversial clause designed to let the team easily void his guaranteed money for "detrimental conduct". The standoff only ended when Cincinnati compromised by softening the clause and accelerating part of his signing bonus to get him on the field. [1]

3. The Long-Term Impact
While this strategy maximizes the owners' liquid assets and prevents team funds from sitting idle, it hamstrings both franchises in free agency. Many elite, tier-one free agents refuse to sign with the Steelers or Bengals because they can get true, ironclad multi-year guarantees from "cash-flush" owners (like the Broncos' Walton family or the Panthers' David Tepper) who don't care about the immediate escrow penalty.
You’re making excuses for him-fact

Do or do not, there is no try

Win, or sell the team
 
They have won more than anyone basically. New regime. Don’t let divas hold you hostage.
That was a long time ago, the league has passed Art Rooney II by, 10 years-no playoff wins

The only reason there is a “new regime” is Tomlin quit, Rooney would of let him continue to coach here and fail until Kindgom Come if Tomlin wanted-that’s an example of why Art Rooney II sucks-and you know this full well

Yes screw the diva, but stop excusing the failures way bigger than the diva
 
That was a long time ago, the league has passed Art Rooney II by, 10 years-no playoff wins

The only reason there is a “new regime” is Tomlin quit, Rooney would of let him continue to coach here and fail until Kindgom Come if Tomlin wanted-that’s an example of why Art Rooney II sucks-and you know this full well

Yes screw the diva, but stop excusing the failures way bigger than the diva
Well we just see things very differently, that’s ok.
 
I think owners have a bigger role of responsibility than what most fans give attention to.

The average fan wants to blame the here and now, what’s directly in their face such as coaches / players / system / refs ect..

Ultimately the Owner holds all responsibility and in this case had held on to long to the HC and turned to much power over to him along the way.

Rooney not being a true football man relinquished to much control to who he thought fulfilled the football man need. As time progressed we could see that formula hindering more and more.

The final results show how inept the Rooney’s decision, the one he is responsible for as an owner, was in holding this team back both in competitiveness and personnel decisions.




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Yup, you are definitely onto something

There is a fine line for owners between being too meddling and too hands off. The good ones seem to find that balance. Not quite sure where Art the flaccid ranks in the spectrum. Leaning towards outsourcing quite a bit with very broad directives.

Art the flaccid is the guy that signs off on things like…

•The HC hiring the GM (who does that?)
•Not allowing negotiations in season-antiquated
•Keeping a mediocre coach well past the date of his expiration/effectiveness
•No cheerleaders
•Giving an ineffective HC an extension
•The guaranteed money available to the GM

His grade for me a solid C.

Pure speculation here but I’d bet he has some draft input, I’m guessing very little other than a very aerial view directive such as when he told them to fix the run game. His level
of involvement here is highly speculative, I’d love to have been a fly on the wall in some of those draft war rooms.

At any rate, I’d also speculate he is steeped in the tradition of the city and gives the sign off to be so heavily skewed towards allocating assets to the defense. Trying to play to a blue collar, tough guy, mentality that doesn’t generally translate to SBs in this offensive era.

Cheerleaders Art Cheerleaders! It’s the easiest fix,
Start with the easy target
 
I could post articles where it says they wanted him to retire due to injury and performance. It sucksnour heroes get old just like we do. After 12 years of throwing his body around with reckless abandon, it caught up with him.
He just wasn't the same player anymore. Happens to everyone.

A unicorn like Troy had a game that was dependent on explosive movement. As that super power faded so did his impact, quickly.

He was one of a kind blending that explosive play with mind reader like instincts.

The fall off was quick for sure but man did he ever give us some plays and memories that will last forever!
 
**** jr and his dad. I'm tired of the me 1st players in this team sport, and they don't belong in Pittsburgh.
 
He signed a contract he should honor it. Period
And until contracts are fully guaranteed.....the owners can drop the player in a blink of an eye. It is what it is though. The players Union signs on the dotted line every CBA negotiations without this one thing not there and then complains about it not being there. Wonder what the players would have to give up to get fully guaranteed contracts? 🤔
 
I would like to keep Porter. He's not elite but he's real good IMHO. I know we don't negotiate during the season but it's okay to make an exception. Yeah he's doing the Ramsey play book. He's making 4.9 for this year. Tear that up give him 50 mil for two years 26 n 27. Financial security for JPJ now and he's still in his prime in 28 for his second deal.
 
He signed a contract he should honor it. Period

If that is the case, which it IS
that he signed a contract

Then the contract either means something or it doesn’t

The GMs and HCs (owners too) have no issues with cutting a player under contract…a contract they should honor too…If indeed the contracts were meaningful at all

Which obviously the employers have shown the employees that they are not worth the paper they are printed on

How can an employee be held to a level of honor the employer is not held to?

I realize the player’s agreed to the slotted contracts for draft picks, mostly because they were screwing players who weren’t represented yet by their union leaving more money for themselves . The entire premise of the player’s union bargaining on factors of employee contracts without representation (the draft pick) is ridiculous and 100% anti American and anti free market. A true sham those rookie contracts are…
 
Porter Jr is a mediocre taken at best. He’s not 1st round pick worthy. Outside of Pittsburgh, he doesn’t even enter the conversation. Let’s stop paying for the bul1shit nostalgia. No guys seriously, this is Joey Porter’s son. We’re one big family here. F’n derrrrr
 
I would like to keep Porter. He's not elite but he's real good IMHO. I know we don't negotiate during the season but it's okay to make an exception. Yeah he's doing the Ramsey play book. He's making 4.9 for this year. Tear that up give him 50 mil for two years 26 n 27. Financial security for JPJ now and he's still in his prime in 28 for his second deal.

So make an “exception” and just hand the player a 21 million bonus this year, how could that go wrong?

No way they open that flood gate

If they were to make an exception which is highly unlikely it wouldn’t be for a period of time they can already control him for…no exceptions are coming because they will indeed keep the lid on tight for that can of worms
 
Porter is an above average starter. He’s not a superstar or elite CB. He’s a very good outside corner. Not worth 30+ million a year. Not worth 100 million guaranteed. He’s worth 20-25 million a season and less than 50 million guaranteed. And after the Lions **** the bed on Thursday because of their CBs AND another one is hurt if they don’t offer serious compensation then the market for him is pretty low and I don’t know if he gets what we offered in the open market.
 
Joey continues to say his back is a problem causing some to think it is a convenient thing.

Insiders are saying he is fighting to play week 3 against Cincinnati.

Joey may also is trying to push a trade and in order to do that he has to prove healthy, then he would have to play for the Steelers by contract.

He is in a catch 22 situation that he himself has caused (daddy didn’t anticipate this).


Home page article talking some better intel and sources, good read







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