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Now, looks like CV doesn't spread when asymptomatic. It also is beginning to appear that this thing started early Fall in China.

ttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
 
The Norwegians found that the protein spike could not have been natural. The lack of any mutation for it to jump from bat to human. Meaning is was tailor made ready to spread to humans. So why in the hell would you be doing bs like this?

They spent a great deal of time destroying evidence and not letting anyone in.

I'm moving closer toward intentional. The collateral damage at home and abroad was minimal. They sure ****** us up.

China is not our friend.
 
Now, looks like CV doesn't spread when asymptomatic. It also is beginning to appear that this thing started early Fall in China.

ttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html


The Military World Games opened in Wuhan, China on October 18,2019. On the same date October 18, 2019, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and Johns Hopkins held Event 201 Pandemic Symposium in which public-private partnerships were forged in the dry run toward a universal vaccine.

Some call that a "coincidence." I call those 2 events coordinated opening salvos in the latest offensive by the New World Order.

Google and Facebook have helped the Chinese establish 5G Prison and terror over the Chinese population -- and they are using Chicom tactics on Americans as well. Even censoring the POTUS.

Covid-1984 stopped the Hong Kong protests (but not our protests!) that Kap and LeBron James could care less about.

So, early fall fits perfectly in the overall context as well.
 
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Now, looks like CV doesn't spread when asymptomatic. It also is beginning to appear that this thing started early Fall in China.

ttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

I'm a bit skeptical for a few reasons:
* This is coming from the WHO. This organization has shared misinformation from the start.
* I believe the research they are citing is coming out of China.
* No data was presented in this particular article so it's difficult to determine what "rare" is.
* Does the study distinguish between asymptomatic and presymptomatic?
* It's hard to believe that so many people are still getting sick on a daily basis with many social distancing practices in place if those without symptoms are only rarely spreading the disease.
 
PA dept of Health just released a statement saying it will require all staff and residents in nursing homes to be tested by July 24th. They also recommend weekly testing through 14 days since the most recent case.......Looks like Ill get my nose tickled yay
 
Now, looks like CV doesn't spread when asymptomatic. It also is beginning to appear that this thing started early Fall in China.

ttps://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html

So its like every other flu. Another big shock. This lockdown was ridiculous.
 
So more evidence that covid-19 was engineered in a lab taylor made for humans. [video]https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2020/06/07/norway-scientist-claims-report-proves-coronavirus-was-lab-made/[/video]
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PA dept of Health just released a statement saying it will require all staff and residents in nursing homes to be tested by July 24th. They also recommend weekly testing through 14 days since the most recent case.......Looks like Ill get my nose tickled yay

At least they're finally looking at where the stuff mostly spreads.
 
If the asymptomatic spread is rare like WHO claims how did do many people get infected? At one point i think it was like 20% of the NY police department.
 
If the asymptomatic spread is rare like WHO claims how did do many people get infected? At one point i think it was like 20% of the NY police department.

NYPD does not have take home vehicles and their cars run 16 and 24 hour shifts. That is the perfect breeding ground for the virus. How many people in the NYPD had minor flu like symptoms and kept working in January and/or February. How many people does each officer interact with on a daily basis. Frankly, I am surprised it is not a much higher percentage.
 
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Public health ‘professionals’ keep showing how unprofessional they really are

Three months ago, America was told to trust the public health experts. Never again. Most are left-wing ideologues cloaked in the mantle of science. On their advice, states slammed their economies shut, put 40 million people out of work, sent school kids home and pushed businesses into bankruptcy.

These experts hardly blinked at the economic losses. They and their media allies raged at anyone who questioned them for putting dollars ahead of lives. Now these same experts are doing a 180-degree turn, saying the threat of the virus is less important than big marches against racial injustice. This, even though they admit the marches will lead to more infections. Hypocrites.

Public-health academics from the University of Washington, which created the virus-forecasting model widely used by governors and the president’s task force, are circulating a public letter declaring the marches a higher priority than containing the virus.

“This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders,” the UW health experts add. Translation: No funerals for your loved ones, no congregating for causes of your own choosing. Only theirs.

This isn’t science. This is political advocacy. Similarly, Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, now claims the dangers of “systemic racism” exceed “the harms of the virus.” Sorry, professor, but that makes you a pundit, not someone to call the shots on ending a pandemic.

Remember that most public-health experts didn’t have to give up their paychecks during the lockdown. Otherwise, they would have considered alternatives that spared most jobs and business failures. Vast swaths of the United States that had almost no infections were shut down, including upstate counties in New York.

Economists from the University of Chicago and Northwestern University have shown how a geographically targeted approach even within New York City could have lessened the economic toll by more than one-third and spared areas like Staten Island. If the virus resurges in the fall, that approach could allow 87 percent of city businesses to stay open.

A study published Monday in the journal Nature purports to show 60 million infections in the United States were prevented with these lockdowns. The Washington Post incorrectly calls that proof “the aggressive and unprecedented shutdowns” were the right approach.

Nonsense. The Nature study never considers how many infections could have been prevented with less draconian measures, for example, by isolating the elderly and infirm and allowing the rest of us to carry on. In New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo did the exact opposite, forcing nursing homes to take COVID-19 patients while imposing a vast lockdown on healthier residents for far longer than necessary.

Sadly, science is losing its luster as the profession puts politics ahead of the truth. Last week, two prestigious medical journals, The Lancet and The New England Journal of Medicine, which until recently set the gold standard for scientific publications, had to retract articles they had published on *hydroxychloroquine.

Both had dispensed with rigorous peer review to rush out articles purporting to show that President Trump’s favored COVID-19 drug endangers patients. They were so eager to ridicule Trump they ended up discrediting themselves. Turns out the data in the articles were shaky.

No surprise. Lancet editors had published their own editorial a week earlier calling on voters to unseat Trump in November. As if a British medical journal should even have a position on US elections.

Americans have learned a powerful lesson. When politicians tell us to follow the science, it’s not that simple. Many scientists have lost their legitimacy.

They proposed a draconian lockdown without assessing its side effects on the rest of us. They demanded rigorous adherence to it, until suddenly they decided marching against racism was more important than preventing virus deaths. Americans won’t forget.

Even guidelines for reopening are arbitrary, reflecting these experts’ fickle priorities. New York City residents have to wait until late June for sidewalk dining at restaurants. But it’s OK, even laudable, for throngs of protesters to march down the street now, many maskless and shouting.

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Betsy McCaughey is a former lieutenant governor of New York, the chairwoman of the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths and *author of the forthcoming book “The Next Pandemic.”
 
I am so it's safe for hundreds of thousands around the country to protest,riot and attend funerals. The rona doesn't have a taste for that. Now churches,bars,restaurants, people surfing,kids skate parks, barbers &stylists. Selfish sob's need.

You couldn't go to a gym, but you could sure as hell go burn it down.

2020 best year ever!
 
I am so it's safe for hundreds of thousands around the country to protest,riot and attend funerals. The rona doesn't have a taste for that. Now churches,bars,restaurants, people surfing,kids skate parks, barbers &stylists. Selfish sob's need.

You couldn't go to a gym, but you could sure as hell go burn it down.

2020 best year ever!

I am interested to learn on the spread of this virus indoors vs. outdoors as we see more people out and about.
 
Honestly, I never thought the virus spread all the well in open air. Again, there was a lot of unknowns and likely overreactions.

And for all the concerns, warmer weather does help.

I still think the virus DOES spread indoors. Even talking (without masks) and normal distance indoors is a method of transmission. Plus it appears there are some studies that it is greatly effected indoors by "drafts" caused by HVAC systems. Even downwind in a restaurant from someone who has it can be bad.

But I think we have a lot to be positive about. Being outside and in fresh air is good. Well ventilated areas (with outside air) is good. Masks work when talking to each other indoors. Transmission via contact surfaces is overblown (that's good). Non-symptomatic people aren't as contagious as we once thought.

We are going to look back at this 3 months and come away with learning a number of important things. Yes, maybe the "cost" to learn them (at the expense of lives and economy) isn't equal. But what we now know about these types of viruses is important:

1. We need to keep a LOT more provisions on hand stockpiled and ready to go. This a federal government responsibility and will not take all that much money.

2. We need to learn how to "lock down" high risk groups. Particularly, our elderly in long-term care facilities. Between 60-65% of deaths are in long-term care facilities. Once it gets into these highly contained HVAC systems, it spreads easily and effectively.

3. We need to do a better job of the "Green", "Yellow" and "Red" classifications that effect jobs and economies. Did we need to shut down New York City? Yes. Did we need to shut down upstate New York like it was New York City? No. Too many people were scared at the "unknowns" and over-reacted. Too many shoddy reports hit the media (i.e. surface and non-symptomatic spreading capabilities for two).

4. We need to bring back manufacturing to the U.S. for basic stuff like virus tests, masks, PPE, etc.

It's honestly not that hard to get through it. There could be a really bad virus around the corner completely different. Covid-19 might come back for a very bad winter season.

But all these things listed above need to be ready in place and not go completely bad-**** crazy.
 
I think the big challenge is going to be keeping the schools open in the fall, during an outbreak, which is bound to happen.. Then again, everyone will just go remote.
 
It's like magic.

If they can't get the Race War they desire after they couldn't get the Pandemic, makes you wonder what the Chicom/Deep State LLC has planned next?
 
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Honestly, I never thought the virus spread all the well in open air. Again, there was a lot of unknowns and likely overreactions.

And for all the concerns, warmer weather does help.

I still think the virus DOES spread indoors. Even talking (without masks) and normal distance indoors is a method of transmission. Plus it appears there are some studies that it is greatly effected indoors by "drafts" caused by HVAC systems. Even downwind in a restaurant from someone who has it can be bad.

But I think we have a lot to be positive about. Being outside and in fresh air is good. Well ventilated areas (with outside air) is good. Masks work when talking to each other indoors. Transmission via contact surfaces is overblown (that's good). Non-symptomatic people aren't as contagious as we once thought.

We are going to look back at this 3 months and come away with learning a number of important things. Yes, maybe the "cost" to learn them (at the expense of lives and economy) isn't equal. But what we now know about these types of viruses is important:

1. We need to keep a LOT more provisions on hand stockpiled and ready to go. This a federal government responsibility and will not take all that much money.

2. We need to learn how to "lock down" high risk groups. Particularly, our elderly in long-term care facilities. Between 60-65% of deaths are in long-term care facilities. Once it gets into these highly contained HVAC systems, it spreads easily and effectively.

3. We need to do a better job of the "Green", "Yellow" and "Red" classifications that effect jobs and economies. Did we need to shut down New York City? Yes. Did we need to shut down upstate New York like it was New York City? No. Too many people were scared at the "unknowns" and over-reacted. Too many shoddy reports hit the media (i.e. surface and non-symptomatic spreading capabilities for two).

4. We need to bring back manufacturing to the U.S. for basic stuff like virus tests, masks, PPE, etc.

It's honestly not that hard to get through it. There could be a really bad virus around the corner completely different. Covid-19 might come back for a very bad winter season.

But all these things listed above need to be ready in place and not go completely bad-**** crazy.

#3 reminds me of the color-coded terror "threat levels" after 9/11. The guys offering the solutions to the crises seem to recycle a lot.

Personally, I'd like to see a little more of the "if we don't go about our lives we let the terrorists win" mindset we saw after 9/11. By contrast, Covid-1984 was a societal Dunkirk. Everybody tried to "out-shutdown" everyone else in a rush off the cliff.
 
If they can't get the Race War they desire after they couldn't get the Pandemic, makes you wonder what the Chicom/Deep State LLC has planned next?


Mail in voting. Virus Round 2 Batch B. Mass shooter.

Joe Biden sure isn't it. He's out in left field chasing fireflies with his glass mason jar.


I'm starting to think we're behind our own pandemic. Every time evidence starts coming out that it was manufactured it goes poof!
 
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Mail in voting. Virus Round 2 Batch B. Mass shooter.

Joe Biden sure isn't it. He's out in left field chasing fireflies with his glass mason jar.


I'm starting to think we're behind our own pandemic. Every time evidence starts coming out that it was manufactured it goes poof!

If China and Deep State had wanted to plan a bio-attack to hurt the US economy, prop up Biden by taking him off the stage, subdue the Bernie Bro political angst, end Trump rallies, end Hong Kong protests, destroy Trump economy and inroads with African-Americans, enact long-coveted Social and Economic controls on Americans, and let China off the mat from an arse kicking in trade, what would they have done differently?
 
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