
Huh, wonder why Tibs did not include California in the charts. Or the total number of deaths, including New York, New Jersey, etc.?
Wonder why just Florida and Texas. Cannot think of the reason ... must be one. Let me think on it some more.
Case numbers are meaningless to me. But positive rate, hospitalizations and deaths are all going up in some places. Hospitals are nearing capacity in some places. That's not good, no matter how the data is being cooked.
I totally agree much has been overblown and politicized about the data through the course of this. It is being made to sound worse than it is in many ways. That doesn't mean there is nothing bad about it.
I don't see why people don't see a middle ground between "OMG PANIC WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE" and "It's a complete hoax being used to control us". What is wrong with "It's not life threatening for most people but why not slow down the spread with simple measures if we can so we don't run out of hospital space and PPE again and end up having to shut everything down." Is that really such a huge infringement on our rights?
I've ever seen so many people abandon all logic and reason like this, on both sides.
Huh, wonder why Tibs did not include California in the charts. Or the total number of deaths, including New York, New Jersey, etc.? Wonder why just Florida and Texas. Cannot think of the reason ... must be one. Let me think on it some more.
Yeah, I guess that's another way to put it. Whether you simply want to call him ignorant, or claim that he's lying through his teeth (like I am), it is a disgrace coming from the the President of the United States and the leader of the free world, particularly when the lives and well-being of millions are at risk.
Thankfully the numbers have come down in places like NY & NJ, which was by far in the worst shape back in the spring. Those Dem gov's and mayors made plenty of mistakes, which resulted in significant loss of life. To see the dramatic rise in overall US numbers relative to the EU and other countries is sad and disappointing. In states like CA and Arizona, along with the southern states, this thing has been heading in the opposite direction as it should be. Really sad to see, across the board. Very disappointing, regardless of party politcs and whether it's a blue or red state. I hope the tide will turn soon, and the numbers start coming down again.
To sit here and ponder that Americans are barred from travelling to the EU, Mexico and Canada - and not the other way around - is simply stunning.
This is the type of news we need. We still may be a ways off from a vaccine in practical terms, but every bit of a breakthrough is welcome news.
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The reason California, Texas, and AZ are having issues is because they border Mexico. If you look at the cases in Mexico you'll see the vast majority of cases on the border with the U.S. You still have illegal aliens coming into the country spreading the disease in these states... especially CA. I've actually been to CA recently and my wife is from there. Obviously you don't know WTF you're talking about since you get all your news from MSNBC.
Over the weekend, Homeland Security and federal health officials pointed to possible explanations for spikes in Texas, Arizona and North Carolina other than immigration. Their email responses connected the rise in new COVID-19 cases to America’s rapid and loosely planned reopening, which the White House has defended despite criticism from public health experts.
“The upticks in COVID cases is likely to be linked in the general community relaxation of social distancing regulations as well as general community social distancing fatigue,” William Ferrara, executive assistant commissioner at Customs and Border Protection, wrote to HHS on Saturday, citing the conclusions of the agency’s medical staff as well as legal cross-border traffic, which has largely stagnated in recent weeks.
Health officials in Pima, a border county in Arizona that includes Tucson, told USA TODAY that they have watched their case numbers march up as stay-at-home orders relaxed. Total cases have climbed by 125% in the county since a statewide shutdown was lifted in mid-May.
“We get groups of more than 10 together, we open up businesses, we don’t wear masks and end up where we are,” said Pima County Public Health Director Dr. Theresa Cullen. “We don’t have to speculate that this is a rise in people coming across the border.”
Try to loosen your thinking cap a little, it's screwed on too tightly. I know it's bad all over right now stateside, trust me, I get it. The reason I highlighted TX and FL was because Trump and FoxNews were literally drooling and gushing over how successful those R governors were, while lambasting the Dems on the east coast. The tide has turned, and now they look like the fools that they are. This is not a partisan issue,
Tibs said:To sit here and ponder that Americans are barred from travelling to the EU, Mexico and Canada - and not the other way around - is simply stunning.
This may take the cake for the most ridiculous post on this board. At least for this day, or maybe this week. I'm sure there will be plenty more, from where this came from.
Not suprising at all, as obviously you don't know WTF you're talking about since you get all your news from fringe Qanon, alt-right sites.
Feds explore whether Latino immigrants to blame for coronavirus flare-ups
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...-task-force-questions-immigration/3210219001/
Some soy boys are already asking "Why so many shots?". Uh, because the dude threatening her life kept lunging at her and attempted to pick up his deadly weapon again?
She did seem to shoot the eff out of him and is supposedly being accused of mistaking the suspect for an unarmed black man.
the media is lying by omission. They want you to assume that the rise in hospitalization is all Covid. Fact is, much of the increase is people going in for procedures that they had postponed due to lockdowns.
as for masks, if they had mandated that HIV positive people wear masks back in the day, the ACLU would have set a speed record to the courthouse. And rightly so.
There are 2 issues at play. 1. Are masks even effective? There is no evidence at all that they do anything.
I think these people do NOT have this power, at least not for such a prolonged period. Executives are granted emergency powers, because it is accepted that a legislature is too slow to act in an emergency. But how long is something an emergency? Is there any reason why these measures can’t be voted on now? Only political reasons which are not valid reasons in terms of laws.
I just wish it wasn't so politicized and that we could get some good honest information from the best medical minds on Earth instead.
The reason California, Texas, and AZ are having issues is because they border Mexico.
Early on, not much was known about HIV. People did think you could get it airborne. Just like now with covid, we have no idea if masks actually do anything. I also brought up HIV for a reason. Did you know that due to pressure from various groups, many states have repealed laws that make it a crime for an HIV positive person to knowingly have sex with somebody without telling them? So much for public health.
Bravo Jake Tapper and Dr. Gupta. This guy Cuomo is a delusional, self-important ******* criminal:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bravo <a href="https://twitter.com/jaketapper?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jaketapper</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/drsanjaygupta?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@drsanjaygupta</a> for BLASTING <a href="https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NYGovCuomo</a> for his terrible <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID</a> response <a href="https://t.co/0JA5m9Dc8a">pic.twitter.com/0JA5m9Dc8a</a></p>— Jon Nicosia (@NewsPolitics) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewsPolitics/status/1283135037618225153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
...and sadly, it looks like the 2nd wave will hit Europe fairly soon, if it hasn't already. Numbers are going back up again, and certain EU countries are contemplating re-installing travel bans, limiting bars and restaurants, etc. The big difference has been the sad fact the US never really managed its first wave, and as soon as cases started plateuing, there was a rush to re-open and get things back to normal. Add to that, the batshit crazy right-wingers, who've been off the reservation from day one regarding counter-covid measures. Here in Europe people just got it very early on - wearing masks, social distancing, adhering to covid regulations - that this wasn't some government take-over, or an infringement of individual rights, etc. The situation is bad enough without dipshit, wacked-out politicians talking out of their *****, mocking reporters wearing masks, deriding their own CDC officials, like we've seen with Trump and the GOP. The situation in states like Florida and Texas is mind-numbing, to say the least. The fact hospital emergency wards are at capacity, in the middle of July, is unbelievable. Yet that's exactly what happened, as so many mocked this pandemic, called it a hoax, a partisan ploy against Trump, refused to wear masks, had hissy fits when confronted, etc, etc. Not to speak of the medical concerns raised by researchers of long-term effects of covid, be it regarding heart issues, or how it attacks other organs, that can linger in patients a lot longer than originally believed. This has been, and continues to be, a very dangerous situation, for folks around the world, on both sides of the Atlantic. Godspeed to us all.
Moving to counter the spreading coronavirus outbreak, the Trump administration said Friday that it would bar entry by most foreign nationals who had recently visited China and put some American travelers under a quarantine as it declared a rare public health emergency.[FONT="]The temporary restrictions followed announcements by American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and United Airlines that they would suspend air service between the United States and China for several months.
The travel disruption sent shocks through the stock market and rattled industries that depend on the flow of goods and people between the world’s two largest economies. Planning was upended for companies across a vast global supply chain, from Apple to John Deere, the tractor company.
The S&P 500 suffered its worst loss since October, falling 1.8 percent, as the spread of the virus — and the increasingly urgent efforts by companies and governments to contain it — fanned fears of an economic slowdown.
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[FONT="]The government travel restrictions, which will take effect on Sunday evening, were announced by Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services, who declared that the coronavirus posed “a public health emergency in the United States.”
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The administration’s action will restrict all foreign nationals who have been to China in the past 14 days from entering the United States. The restriction does not include immediate family members of American citizens and permanent residents. Nearly three million Chinese residents traveled to the United States in 2018, according to federal data based on travel records.