The Coronavirus thread

[Vader]

As I understand it, if you are a full teacher you ought to be salaried and how the school chooses to deal with its educational format has nothing to do with you getting paid. If you are a contracted, hourly aide then that's different. I am sincerely hoping you are fully compensated.

I'm a "full" teacher. I get paid if we go back or if we stay at home. Having said that I feel the schools should re-open. Use CDC guidelines and use safe practices of course. But there is no scientific reason to keep them closed. But like most things this isn't about science this is politics.

 

[Steelworth]

Signing bonus?
Vacation days?
Personal days?
Sick leave?
Sabbatical?

And of course... Salary? I have degrees in completely unrelated fields that I deserve compensation for. I mean, all my loans have been forgiven by greedy, capitalist pigs but still, my time in school needs to be repaid to me, so I'm assuming the job comes with 6 years worth of salary compensation to cover my educational investment.

And don't even THINK to play that the above compensation is part of my seperate signing bonus.

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WaPo: "And you'll want TDS cooldown days off like the rest of the staff I assume, correct? We recognize the birthdays of Marx and Lenin as holiday days off as well. Welcome to the staff, comrade."

 

[Yinzerlyn]

As I understand it, if you are a full teacher you ought to be salaried and how the school chooses to deal with its educational format has nothing to do with you getting paid. If you are a contracted, hourly aide then that's different. I am sincerely hoping you are fully compensated.

I’m a Para, so I’m hourly. That’s why I’m nervous.

 

[Steelworth]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Cuomo Erupts Over Trump's Goya Endorsement Amid Spiking Pandemic: How Does He 'Have Time for This Bullsh*t'?! <a href="https://t.co/JKkExYIOif">https://t.co/JKkExYIOif</a></p>— Mediaite (@Mediaite) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1283579941280518144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meanwhile, his brother is selling a bizarre Coronavirus poster for $14.50 a pop. The guy who threw infected patients into nursing homes. You can't make this **** up.

 

[jitter77]

You may find it hard to believe but that doesn't make it false. Fact is that viruses aren't all the same. They have different protein receptors and can be spread in different ways. There are even differences in the genetic codes. You can have a virus with DNA or RNA. And even variants among those with TRNA ETC...

So I'm not shocked you find it hard to believe but that's the way it works. Which is why we should listen to the experts and open up schools.

Science is only good when it suits your beliefs other times it is all fake news. Regardless there are still mixed results about kids. Hard to get proper data on kids when they are not the ones congregating in large groups. Kids have had it and some have died from it, but at a very low percentage. The virus spreads with every other age group (elderly, middle aged, and young adults). It is more likely than not that younger kids can transmit it, but definitely need more data. Until many groups of kids are hanging out or going to school I do not think we will get a good picture of infection / transmission between school age people.

 

[diver]

Science is only good when it suits your beliefs other times it is all fake news. Regardless there are still mixed results about kids. Hard to get proper data on kids when they are not the ones congregating in large groups. Kids have had it and some have died from it, but at a very low percentage. The virus spreads with every other age group (elderly, middle aged, and young adults). It is more likely than not that younger kids can transmit it, but definitely need more data. Until many groups of kids are hanging out or going to school I do not think we will get a good picture of infection / transmission between school age people.

That's right. The left is practicing that every day. Only one science is being followed right now. That's the problem. It seems like no other science is being considered, except the science that says keep kids out and lock down.

 

[jitter77]

Nearly one-third of children tested for COVID in Florida are positive. Palm Beach County’s health director warns of risk of long-term damage



Nearly one-in-three children tested for the new coronavirus in Florida has been positive, and a South Florida health official is concerned the disease could cause lifelong damage even for children with mild illness.

Dr. Alina Alonso, Palm Beach County’s health department director, warned county commissioners Tuesday that much is unknown about the long-term health consequences for children who catch COVID-19.

X-rays have revealed the virus can cause lung damage even in people without severe symptoms, she said.

“They are seeing there is damage to the lungs in these asymptomatic children. ... We don’t know how that is going to manifest a year from now or two years from now,” Alonso said. “Is that child going to have chronic pulmonary problems or not?”

Full article

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200714-xcdall2tsrd4riim2nwokvmsxm-story.html

 

[diver]

I'm a "full" teacher. I get paid if we go back or if we stay at home. Having said that I feel the schools should re-open. Use CDC guidelines and use safe practices of course. But there is no scientific reason to keep them closed. But like most things this isn't about science this is politics.

So am I, and I want to go back. I want to do my job. I tell you what, though,Vader, as a collective we teachers must be some of the dumbest people at times. I know my district got a lot of positive feedback with how we handled things the last few months of school. We did turn to and worked hard at it. I find it hard to believe we would squander that goodwill we have for once by crying about going back.

 

[Superman]

Nearly one-third of children tested for COVID in Florida are positive. Palm Beach County’s health director warns of risk of long-term damage



Nearly one-in-three children tested for the new coronavirus in Florida has been positive, and a South Florida health official is concerned the disease could cause lifelong damage even for children with mild illness.

Dr. Alina Alonso, Palm Beach County’s health department director, warned county commissioners Tuesday that much is unknown about the long-term health consequences for children who catch COVID-19.

X-rays have revealed the virus can cause lung damage even in people without severe symptoms, she said.

“They are seeing there is damage to the lungs in these asymptomatic children. ... We don’t know how that is going to manifest a year from now or two years from now,” Alonso said. “Is that child going to have chronic pulmonary problems or not?”

Full article

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200714-xcdall2tsrd4riim2nwokvmsxm-story.html

and there have been reports of people LEAVING a testing facility due to the long line, yet being mailed a POSITIVE result.
there have been reports of the testing facilities/hospitals reporting incorrect numbers
but you continue pushing inaccurate and misleading information if it makes you feel better

 

[Steelworth]

Nearly one-third of children tested for COVID in Florida are positive. Palm Beach County’s health director warns of risk of long-term damage

The American Academy of Pediatrics and other prominent Pediatricians (you know, the ones who specialize in children's health) beg to differ:

 

[Steelworth]

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Science is only good when it suits your beliefs other times it is all fake news. Regardless there are still mixed results about kids. Hard to get proper data on kids when they are not the ones congregating in large groups. Kids have had it and some have died from it, but at a very low percentage. The virus spreads with every other age group (elderly, middle aged, and young adults). It is more likely than not that younger kids can transmit it, but definitely need more data. Until many groups of kids are hanging out or going to school I do not think we will get a good picture of infection / transmission between school age people.

you mean like all the kids in Europe who have been in school? Sweden never closed schools.

 

[oneforthebus]

Science is only good when it suits your beliefs other times it is all fake news. Regardless there are still mixed results about kids. Hard to get proper data on kids when they are not the ones congregating in large groups. Kids have had it and some have died from it, but at a very low percentage. The virus spreads with every other age group (elderly, middle aged, and young adults). It is more likely than not that younger kids can transmit it, but definitely need more data. Until many groups of kids are hanging out or going to school I do not think we will get a good picture of infection / transmission between school age people.

There are plenty of kids in daycare all over the country. There are over 200,000 confirmed cases in kids and about 50 deaths. Most of those were in kids with serious underlying health conditions.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2...hildren-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

 

[oneforthebus]

Just got off a facebook page where all the neighborhood kooks are accusing people of wanting their kids to die.

The nervous nellies are going to shut down our schools.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

There are plenty of kids in daycare all over the country. There are over 200,000 confirmed cases in kids and about 50 deaths. Most of those were in kids with serious underlying health conditions.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2...hildren-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

Uhhh.....

https://twitchy.com/greg-3534/2020/...1bPTugpBmWnSe95eLPquYslTf2mumdb9ZDrw1gtbujbOU

Since full-time school isn’t safe in NYC, Mayor de Blasio will provide child care for 100,00 students. Indoors. With other kids. And adult supervision.

You can’t make this up. . .

Because full-time in-person school isn’t safe yet in New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio will provide child care for 100,000 kids. Indoors. With other children. And adult supervision:
In other words, he’s invented the concept of a public school:

 

[Ron Burgundy]

The CDC is cooking Florida's numbers.

There's a Huge Issue With Florida's COVID Positivity Rates

Okay, so Florida is seeing a surge in new cases. Despite New York having more cases and deaths than any other area and that remains the case, Florida is being pummeled by the liberal media. In the eyes of the liberal press, they deserve it; not enough Floridians died. The Acela Corridor bias is overt and downright absurd. There is no way Texas or Florida’s COVID deaths or cases are ever going to catch up or surpass that of New York, the mecca of the US-based coronavirus outbreak. Yet, there’s an issue with the testing—a big issue. And no doubt it’s screwed with reporting of the new cases. Some of these labs in the Sunshine State were reporting a 100 percent positivity rate. Well, Fox 35 Orlando investigated and found that one location’s actual positivity rate, originally reported to be 98 percent, was really 9.4 percent (via Fox 35 News)[emphasis mine]:

After FOX 35 News noticed errors in the state's report on positivity rates, the Florida Department of Health said that some laboratories have not been reporting negative test result data to the state.

Countless labs have reported a 100 percent positivity rate, which means every single person tested was positive. Other labs had very high positivity rates. FOX 35 News found that testing sites like one local Centra Care reported that 83 people were tested and all tested positive. Then, NCF Diagnostics in Alachua reported 88 percent of tests were positive.

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The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.

FOX 35 News went on to speak with the Florida Department of Health on Tuesday. They confirmed that although private and public laboratories are required to report positive and negative results to the state immediately, some have not. Specifically, they said that some smaller, private labs were not reporting negative test result data to the state.

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While Florida has broken national records for jumps in cases, the state's death toll is nowhere near the national record. When COVID-19 was ravaging New York three months ago, it recorded 799 deaths on April 9 and had a top seven-day average of 763 deaths on April 14. New York now has one of the nation’s lowest death rates per capita, recording 10 per day over the last week.

Yeah, labs only reporting positive case results—all of which are eons below what they actually are might screw with the data. That is quite the gap right there regarding a 98 percent positivity rate and…9.4 percent. A lot of those who’ve been crunching the numbers probably already know this, but when it comes to new cases—maybe take a few days and circle back.

 

[oneforthebus]

Uhhh.....

https://twitchy.com/greg-3534/2020/...1bPTugpBmWnSe95eLPquYslTf2mumdb9ZDrw1gtbujbOU

Since full-time school isn’t safe in NYC, Mayor de Blasio will provide child care for 100,00 students. Indoors. With other kids. And adult supervision.

You can’t make this up. . .

Because full-time in-person school isn’t safe yet in New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio will provide child care for 100,000 kids. Indoors. With other children. And adult supervision:
In other words, he’s invented the concept of a public school:

WTF? Can anything be more stupid than this? Yay let's hire a bunch of unskilled workers (probably illegal immigrants) to teach our kids while teachers sit at home on their laptops.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

WTF? Can anything be more stupid than this? Yay let's hire a bunch of unskilled workers (probably illegal immigrants) to teach our kids while teachers sit at home on their laptops.

Who said anything about teaching? It's daycare. Too dangerous to teach right now.

 

[Steeltime]

you mean like all the kids in Europe who have been in school? Sweden never closed schools.

That's why every child in Europe is now dead. Hadn't you heard?

 

[Steeltime]

You want to get schools to re-open right ******* now?

Tell teachers no in-class instruction, no wages, no service time for retirement.

The schools would be open YESTERDAY.

And I will say for at least the fifth time - the government employees who continued to get paid by money taken from me, while I was forced to stop earning a living, all think lockdown is ******* great. They get paid, no traffic, life's wonderful!

**** them. All of them.

 

[Vader]

Science is only good when it suits your beliefs other times it is all fake news. Regardless there are still mixed results about kids. Hard to get proper data on kids when they are not the ones congregating in large groups. Kids have had it and some have died from it, but at a very low percentage. The virus spreads with every other age group (elderly, middle aged, and young adults). It is more likely than not that younger kids can transmit it, but definitely need more data. Until many groups of kids are hanging out or going to school I do not think we will get a good picture of infection / transmission between school age people.

So basically you pick the science you like and dismiss the science you don't...

 

[Vader]

You want to get schools to re-open right ******* now?

Tell teachers no in-class instruction, no wages, no service time for retirement.

The schools would be open YESTERDAY.

And I will say for at least the fifth time - the government employees who continued to get paid by money taken from me, while I was forced to stop earning a living, all think lockdown is ******* great. They get paid, no traffic, life's wonderful!

**** them. All of them.

I can't speak for every state but we have nothing to do with when schools open or close. I didn't even want to shut down back in March. I'm sure some states like CA are beholden to the teachers union but most states are not. We start school in my district Aug. 3rd. Just like normal. Most of the state is opening that week.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

So basically you pick the science you like and dismiss the science you don't...

It works for global warming, err, i mean climate change.

 

[oneforthebus]

You want to get schools to re-open right ******* now?

Tell teachers no in-class instruction, no wages, no service time for retirement.

The schools would be open YESTERDAY.

And I will say for at least the fifth time - the government employees who continued to get paid by money taken from me, while I was forced to stop earning a living, all think lockdown is ******* great. They get paid, no traffic, life's wonderful!

**** them. All of them.

I have several close friends who are teachers, and I sympathize with their fears of exposing themselves to dozens of germy kids.

That said, they have objections to everything. They don't want full in person school because too many kids. They don't want remote online access to their classrooms because they don't want to be videotaped all day. They don't want a hybrid or alternating day plan because they don't want to have to do both online and in-person instruction. Seems they basically want to be paid full salary to email kids assignments and grade them online. Yeah thanks but a robot can do that.

College professors too.