The Coronavirus thread

[Steelr4evr]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin

I'm all over the Benjamin Franklin quotes today, but seems appropriate.

Be at war with your vices, at peace with*your*neighbors, and let every new year find you a better man. Benjamin Franklin


Love this one! It's the simple things in life to strive for.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Our defense is in the preservation of the spirit
which prizes liberty as a heritage of all men, in all lands, everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors. -Abraham Lincoln

 

[SojournerSteel]

Our defense is in the preservation of the spirit
which prizes liberty as a heritage of all men, in all lands, everywhere. Destroy this spirit and you have planted the seeds of despotism around your own doors. -Abraham Lincoln

To me, the United States and its unique heritage is under a military grade psychological operations attack in order to usher in Top-down control of our daily lives, our bodies, and right to be free. Government was instituted to protect these rights -- not to assail them. We hold these truths to be self-evident.

That's exactly what Lincoln is talking about.

The longer this withering psyop goes on, the more willing the people are to accept curtailing of these liberties in the name of collective welfare and safety. Some are already willing to put their fellow citizens under House Arrest and require mandatory vaccine as a provision of having Constitutional rights -- not allowing the Constitution to inform said rights..

Talk about "despotism around your doors." This is where it is all being funneled.

It's not far away if we allow it.

 

[43Hitman]

To me, the United States and its unique heritage is under a military grade psychological operations attack in order to usher in Top-down control of our daily lives, our bodies, and right to be free. Government was instituted to protect these rights -- not to assail them. We hold these truths to be self-evident.

That's exactly what Lincoln is talking about.

The longer this withering psyop goes on, the more willing the people are to accept curtailing of these liberties in the name of collective welfare and safety. Some are already willing to put their fellow citizens under House Arrest and require mandatory vaccine as a provision of having Constitutional rights -- not allowing the Constitution to inform said rights..

Talk about "despotism around your doors." This is where it is all being funneled.

It's not far away if we allow it.

And it begins:





Kentucky couple fit with ankle monitors, placed on house arrest, for refusing to sign quarantine documents: reports

A Kentucky couple was fitted with ankle monitors and placed on house arrest after the wife tested positive for coronavirus but refused to sign self-quarantine documents, according to reports.

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Elizabeth Linscott said she got tested for COVID-19 as a precaution because she was planning to visit her parents in Michigan. She received a positive test result but showed no symptoms.
She said the Hardin County Health Department asked her to sign documents agreeing to call them any time she left her house. The young mother claims she never refused to self-quarantine but said she would not sign the documents because of how they were worded, WAVE reported.

rest of the story here..https://www.foxnews.com/us/kentucky...kle-monitors-coronavirus-quarantine-documents

 

[Steelworth]

And it begins:

Kentucky couple fit with ankle monitors, placed on house arrest, for refusing to sign quarantine documents: reports

Elizabeth Linscott said she got tested for COVID-19 as a precaution because she was planning to visit her parents in Michigan. She received a positive test result but showed no symptoms. The young mother claims she never refused to self-quarantine but said she would not sign the documents because of how they were worded

That's bullshit. If she had no symptoms they should have tested her several times in case it was a false positive. Admittedly I haven't read the article yet so I don't know if they did or not. But they need to treat adults like adults and not resort to this police state bullshit.

 

[43Hitman]

That's bullshit. If she had no symptoms they should have tested her several times in case it was a false positive. Admittedly I haven't read the article yet so I don't know if they did or not. But they need to treat adults like adults and not resort to this police state bullshit.

Wait till you read how they were contacted by the police. Think your pissed now...just wait.

 

[Steelworth]

Multiple agents and vehicles came to their house? And these Antifa ***** are crying of being 'preyed upon' by two unmarked officers walking them into a vehicle?

That little stunt isn't about public safety/health. It's about fear and intimidation by a ******* police state. And that supervisor blatantly lied to the court about her self-quarantining? I noticed they got a lawyer, I hope they sue the everloving **** out of them and win big. This is getting out of control.

 

[Steelworth]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The real story out of Florida is incredible: 150,000 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SARSCoV2?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SARSCoV2</a> positive tests in the last two weeks, and effectively NO change in either total hospitalizations or ICU use statewide. Case mix? A huge advance in medicine? This is the story real reporters should chase. <a href="https://t.co/rp3Ax6gUDH">pic.twitter.com/rp3Ax6gUDH</a></p>— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1284862752125837314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmm. That's not a red flag, at all.

 

[Steelworth]

Wait till you read how they were contacted by the police. Think your pissed now...just wait.

 

[Tibs]

Today, Trump called Fauci an alarmist.

We are approaching 150,000 deaths in the United States.

Covid cases continue to spike, breaking records by the day. This, while most countries around the world have been able to get a handle on the pandemic.

If you want to understand why the US has been tracking in the wrong direction for months now, all you need to do is read this very thread. Trump's followers have succumbed to sheer lunacy.

Joe Biden is right, it did not have to be this way.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The hard truth is that it didn’t have to be this bad, but Donald Trump ignored the experts and refused to take action. He has failed our nation. <a href="https://t.co/WAhigUtsxz">pic.twitter.com/WAhigUtsxz</a></p>— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1284912638577655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c4b33f07650267db9f8a72eaac551cac.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fsteelernationforums.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

 

[Supersteeler]

Today, Trump called Fauci an alarmist.

We are approaching 150,000 deaths in the United States.

Covid cases continue to spike, breaking records by the day. This, while most countries around the world have been able to get a handle on the pandemic.

If you want to understand why the US has been tracking in the wrong direction for months now, all you need to do is read this very thread. Trump's followers have succumbed to sheer lunacy.

Joe Biden is right, it did not have to be this way.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The hard truth is that it didn’t have to be this bad, but Donald Trump ignored the experts and refused to take action. He has failed our nation. <a href="https://t.co/WAhigUtsxz">pic.twitter.com/WAhigUtsxz</a></p>— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1284912638577655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c4b33f07650267db9f8a72eaac551cac.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fsteelernationforums.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

I don't know if Fauci is being an alarmist but he sure has been wrong a hell of a lot for a leading expert in the field. Dare I say on Covid, Trump might have a better record for correct information than Fauci. And considering he is a complete laymen in the medical field, that is pretty sad.

 

[Vader]

Today, Trump called Fauci an alarmist.

We are approaching 150,000 deaths in the United States.

Covid cases continue to spike, breaking records by the day. This, while most countries around the world have been able to get a handle on the pandemic.

If you want to understand why the US has been tracking in the wrong direction for months now, all you need to do is read this very thread. Trump's followers have succumbed to sheer lunacy.

Joe Biden is right, it did not have to be this way.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The hard truth is that it didn’t have to be this bad, but Donald Trump ignored the experts and refused to take action. He has failed our nation. <a href="https://t.co/WAhigUtsxz">pic.twitter.com/WAhigUtsxz</a></p>— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1284912638577655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c4b33f07650267db9f8a72eaac551cac.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fsteelernationforums.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

Right with Biden in charge he wouldn't have shut down travel to and from China because he didn't want to be seen as xenophobic. It would have been 10X worse. You can't go back and change what he said then as much as i know you want too.

 

[Steelworth]

Today, Trump called Fauci an alarmist.

We are approaching 150,000 deaths in the United States.

Covid cases continue to spike, breaking records by the day. This, while most countries around the world have been able to get a handle on the pandemic.

If you want to understand why the US has been tracking in the wrong direction for months now, all you need to do is read this very thread. Trump's followers have succumbed to sheer lunacy.

Joe Biden is right, it did not have to be this way.


<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The hard truth is that it didn’t have to be this bad, but Donald Trump ignored the experts and refused to take action. He has failed our nation. <a href="https://t.co/WAhigUtsxz">pic.twitter.com/WAhigUtsxz</a></p>— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1284912638577655808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp><iframe scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets/widget_iframe.c4b33f07650267db9f8a72eaac551cac.html?origin=https%3A%2F%2Fsteelernationforums.com" title="Twitter settings iframe" style="display: none;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

 

[Steelworth]

Right with Biden in charge

Jesus, that's a scary scenario right there. I bet Biden isn't even in charge of his own diaper duty.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

I don't know if Fauci is being an alarmist but he sure has been wrong a hell of a lot for a leading expert in the field. Dare I say on Covid, Trump might have a better record for correct information than Fauci. And considering he is a complete laymen in the medical field, that is pretty sad.

He is directly responsible for telling the us public masks don’t work and don’t wear them. So based on that logic he directly caused numerous deaths. He should fired and or put on charges given how masks save the world right now and you are forbidden to go anywhere without one.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

And those numbers are sooo ******* cooked.

 

[Steelworth]

And those numbers are sooo ******* cooked.

Absolutely. It's so crooked people should be brought up on charges. It's amazing what you'll dig up when you stop listening to the propagandists who want to tear this country down, and people who still have a modicum of honesty and decency--no matter the political affiliation.

 

[SojournerSteel]

Absolutely. It's so crooked people should be brought up on charges. It's amazing what you'll dig up when you stop listening to the propagandists who want to tear this country down, and people who still have a modicum of honesty and decency--no matter the political affiliation.

That's the Red Pill right now. The reality or matrix we are living in.

I just watched Chris Wallace hen peck Donald Trump for 30 minutes, while Basement Biden continues to cruise along with nary a single even softball question telegraphed his way.

They've set this Covid1984 to hang over the country until Inauguration Day.

They are creating Jimmy Carter Malaise 2.0 and worse. I bet Covid gets "released" or "cured" the day Biden takes office much like the mullahs releasing the hostages. We may as well start tying yellow ribbons around the tree -- except this time we are the hostages and people around us have Stockholm Syndrome and identify with the captors.

 

[Steelworth]

Is this snippet enough to change the minds of people defending Fauci already?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dr. Fauci: "We have got to do the things... that we need to do to turn this around... When you do it properly, you bring down those cases... We have done it in New York. New York got hit worse than any place in the world. And they did it correctly..."<a href="https://t.co/AyhXRvnFDd">https://t.co/AyhXRvnFDd</a> <a href="https://t.co/0NuHmJdt3m">pic.twitter.com/0NuHmJdt3m</a></p>— JERRY DUNLEAVY (@JerryDunleavy) <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1284583464080211968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And wasn't Chris Cuomo losing his **** about Trump sitting at his desk in his office with some Goya products? Was there even a peep about this d-bag doing a spread in "InStyle" magazine?

 

[jitter77]

Is this snippet enough to change the minds of people defending Fauci already?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dr. Fauci: "We have got to do the things... that we need to do to turn this around... When you do it properly, you bring down those cases... We have done it in New York. New York got hit worse than any place in the world. And they did it correctly..."<a href="https://t.co/AyhXRvnFDd">https://t.co/AyhXRvnFDd</a> <a href="https://t.co/0NuHmJdt3m">pic.twitter.com/0NuHmJdt3m</a></p>— JERRY DUNLEAVY (@JerryDunleavy) <a href="https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1284583464080211968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And wasn't Chris Cuomo losing his **** about Trump sitting at his desk in his office with some Goya products? Was there even a peep about this d-bag doing a spread in "InStyle" magazine?

I am missing your point on how this interview makes fauci look bad? There are also different rules for the president than private citizens. On a side note i do think the things with the goya beans is asinine.

 

[Stoney]

I am missing your point on how this interview makes fauci look bad? There are also different rules for the president than private citizens. On a side note i do think the things with the goya beans is asinine.

I would say he is out of bounds suggesting "New York did it correctly". New York did it by killing most of their most-vulnerable population up front.

Sending sick cover patients to nursing homes, by force, was 'doing it correctly'?

I think its been clear for a while now that Dr. Fauci is making **** up as he goes along. He has no plan and no understanding of how to stop, control, or live with this virus. But he does look cool by the pool in his dark sunglasses.

 

[Tibs]

This is an epic, well-researched article (with plenty of footnotes and references) that tells the sad tale of the past six months. It's well worth a read, beginning to end, much too long to post here.

The crisis that shocked the world: America’s response to the coronavirus
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/19/coronavirus-us-failure/

Dysfunctional politics, a lack of funding for public health and a rush to reopen the economy ignited the resurgence of the virus

Six months after the coronavirus appeared in America, the nation has failed spectacularly to contain it. The country’s ineffective response has shocked observers around the planet.

Many countries have rigorously driven infection rates nearly to zero. In the United States, coronavirus transmission is out of control. The national response is fragmented, shot through with political rancor and culture-war divisiveness. Testing shortcomings that revealed themselves in March have become acute in July, with week-long waits for results leaving the country blind to real-time virus spread and rendering contact tracing nearly irrelevant.

The United States may be heading toward a new spasm of wrenching economic shutdowns or to another massive spike in preventable deaths from covid-19 — or both.

How the world’s richest country got into this dismal situation is a complicated tale that exposes the flaws and fissures in a nation long proud of its ability to meet cataclysmic challenges.

The fumbling of the virus was not a fluke: The American coronavirus fiasco has exposed the country’s incoherent leadership, self-defeating political polarization, a lack of investment in public health, and persistent socioeconomic and racial inequities that have left millions of people vulnerable to disease and death.

In this big, sprawling, demographically and culturally diverse nation, the decentralized political structures gave birth to patchwork policies that don’t make sense when applied to a virus that ignores state boundaries and city limits.

While other countries endured some of the same setbacks, few have suffered from all of them simultaneously and catastrophically. If there was a mistake to be made in this pandemic, America has made it.

The single biggest miscalculation was rushing to reopen the economy while the virus was still spreading at high rates through much of the country, experts say. The only way to reopen safely, epidemiologists said as far back as early April, was to “crush the curve” — to drive down the rate of viral transmission to the point that new infections were few and far between.

Future historians will not treat kindly Trump’s efforts to divide and confuse, said James Grossman, executive director of the American Historical Association.

“You look at the Great Depression and how Roosevelt made a concerted effort to unite the country — the fireside chats, the New Deal. That is the instinctive reaction of almost every president in crisis. Even if you don’t succeed, you try to convince people that they’re all in this together,” Grossman said. “This presidency is the exception and anomaly.”

Many Americans now believe the pandemic has been exaggerated, or even fabricated, by scientists and the mainstream news media. The rejection of scientific expertise has flowered into a conspiracy theory holding that the experts are lying as part of a political agenda.

“The most outrageous lies are the ones about Covid 19. Everyone is lying. The CDC, Media, Democrats, our Doctors, not all but most, that we are told to trust,” former “Wheel of Fortune” game show host Chuck Woolery tweeted July 12.

Trump retweeted that. Days later, Woolery revealed his son was sick with the virus, and he has since taken down his Twitter account.

 

[Tibs]

Two more short passages from the article:

A turning point

America, experts say, is approaching a tipping point at which its public health systems could become so overwhelmed they begin to collapse. Already, coronavirus test results take so long to come back they are almost useless for anything except as a historical record.

The delays have a cascading effect. Contact tracing is rendered ineffectual. Containing the virus by isolation becomes impossible. And as hospitals fill, the virus’s fatality rate could inch upward because of overtaxed ICU nurses and doctors struggling to care for so many.

But the most dangerous cascading effect could be despair — a loss of hope, along with the resolve to fight the virus, warned Michael T. Osterholm, director of the University of Minnesota’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy.

“When that happens, you lose the ability to act rationally. You lose the commitment to fight. You lose all chance of beating back the virus,” he said.

To be an American

As she prepares for a three-day drive across the country — from New York to Texas — to bury her mother, Tulip said she has been thinking a lot about what it means to be American.

She was raised like many Texans, unabashedly proud of her roots and her patriotism. “I grew up a Dallas Cowboys fan. All about the stars and stripes. You know that song ‘Proud to Be an American’? We would literally sing that as kids in elementary school and mean every word.”

Now, she said, she feels betrayed by her country and home state. For the past two weeks, she and her husband have been calling funeral homes in Brownsville, unable to get through because the town has been overwhelmed by the virus.

“I desperately want to believe we as a country can change, that we can recover from where we are now,” she said. “I want to believe that America can get back to who we were, a proud country, one where people can thrive and not suffer.”

I pray for our great nation. I pray and hope things get turned around soon.

 

[Tibs]

Scream it from the rooftops: It's a Soros-funded, liberal conspiracy to destroy Trump! It's a government overreach plot against God-fearing, bible-thumping American right-wing conservatives!

Face masks are now mandatory in all public enclosed spaces in France
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...me-time/promo#link-NORKMJUJDRGOLE5YPXXN673MLA

A new mask requirement went into effect in France on Monday, making face coverings mandatory in all public enclosed spaces as the country tries to thwart a resurgence of coronavirus infections.

Although masks were already required in some public spaces in France, such as on public transport, they will now be mandatory in all shops, supermarkets, banks and other enclosed spaces where people mingle in public. Previously, individual shops outlined their own mask policies.

Those who do not comply with the new rules could face fines of more than $150.

French President Emmanuel Macron announced the new mask rule on July 14 but initially said it would go into effect on Aug. 1. The French government later announced the policy would start sooner.

France has confirmed nearly 212,000 cases of the virus and more than 30,000 deaths since the pandemic began. The country went into a strict lockdown this spring but is now reopening, like other countries in Europe where the number of cases dropped significantly once lockdown measures took effect.

Although France has now largely reopened, an uptick in cases in the northwest of the country has health officials on high alert.

With surge in infections, Hong Kong tightens restrictions

Hong Kong adopted newly tightened social distancing measures Monday, as a sudden surge in infections prompts fears that the coronavirus is spreading undetected across the city.

Carrie Lam, the finance hub’s embattled chief executive, said residents are now required to wear face masks in all indoor public spaces and instructed nonessential government employees to work from home.

While Hong Kong was struck early on by the pandemic, the city managed to stamp out most local transmissions by the end of last month. But with more than 100 new cases of the virus confirmed on Sunday, recent figures seem to threaten its success.

“I think the situation is really critical and there is no sign the situation is being brought under control,” Lam said Sunday, according to Agence France-Presse.

More than 500 new infections have been reported over the past two weeks alone, totaling nearly one-third of all confirmed cases since the pandemic began.

Last week, Lam announced a score of newly tightened restrictions, shuttering bars, gyms and nightclubs, requiring masks on public transit, and closing restaurants at night for all but take out, AFP reported.

Australia outbreak may not subside for weeks, health officials warn

The coronavirus outbreak that’s led roughly 5 million people to be placed under lockdown may not relent for “weeks,” Australia’s Acting Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly said Monday.

Victoria, the state host to Australia’s recent surge in infections, reported 275 new cases in the past 24 hours, a notable drop from the record high of 438 on Friday.
But officials are warning that it’s too early for much optimism.

It will likely take at least two weeks before the impact of stay-at-home measures and mandatory masking becomes clear, Kelly said, according to Reuters.

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews similarly told reporters that the new numbers offered some hope, but “we shouldn’t interpret this data as if we’re in week five of a six week lockdown.”

Meanwhile, neighboring New South Wales is seeing its own caseload increase, despite cracking down on large events and interstate travel. The state reported 20 new cases on Monday, its highest daily tally since reopening.

 

[Tibs]

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Americans have been officially banned from entering the Bahamas <a href="https://t.co/hJ5cqRtBGp">https://t.co/hJ5cqRtBGp</a></p>— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) <a href="https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1285168086321168385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>


Americans are being banned from the Bahamas to Europe. The Trump administration’s rejection of facts and science is deadly. We have become a global embarrassment.