The Coronavirus thread

[Sarge]

It's presently unknown precisely how effective they are at this and early indications are that they do prevent most transmission and infection but studies are not complete. They do appear extremely effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalization which is pretty important too, no?



This is true, the vaccines are not 100% effective and never claimed to be. Most vaccines have varying levels of effectiveness. People's immune responses to vaccines are different. The idea is to minimize pathways to transmission in the community as much as possible. Illnesses have been virtually eradicated despite vaccines not being 100% effective. Smallpox vaccine for example is about 95% effective but smallpox is virtually eradicated because the percentage of non-immune people globally is very small.

I'm no fan of Fauci but I've been unable to find any credible source for the idea that he owns part of any of the vaccine patents. Best I could find is NIH partially owns the Moderna patent and 4 other NIH scientists have applied for one for a covid vaccine but nothing about Fauci. If you have a source for that I'd like to see it.

I agree with you everyone should assess their own risk factors and make their own decisions. I just hope they will do it based on accurate information and not misinterpretations of things or in some cases, outright misinformation that is going around.

I read that fully vaccinated people catching COVID totals 5,800 out of 77 million, or about .00007%. That's a drop in the bucket. And folks that have had so-called "breakthrough" infections have had mild symptoms or none at all. You can't ask for much better than that.

5,800 'breakthrough infections' reported in fully vaccinated people, but Covid risk remains very low

Many questions remain about who might be at risk for the so-called breakthrough infections.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Sarge]

Hospitals in my area were overwhelmed at certain points especially in Oct / Nov and they are starting to fill again. This comes from excela calls along with people i know who have tried to goto the hospital. One of my housekeepers went to the ER a couple weeks ago (non-covid) and was admitted, but they had to transport her to another hospital cause they didn't have beds. Back at the peak critical care capacity at all 3 excellas in the area were above 100% and they had beds in the hallways of the ERs.

Where do you live? It seems every COVID related post you make reflects that your area is worse than about 90% of the country. I only ask because I want to make sure I never go there until you post that there hasn't been any COVID in about 6 months.

 

[Superman]

U miss the month of January?

linky no worky

you miss the contribute button again?

 

[Troglodyte]

Again, prove it. You're speaking from an anecdotal standpoint. I posted articles here that showed the capacity of hospitals during the surge last year. Didn't happen. I provided evidence. I shared reports that showed a nationwide analysis of hospitals and their subsequent layoffs. Hospitals were never at capacity.

All those mobile hospitals that were erected were never used or scantly used. The Javitz Center....empty. The USS Comfort....not used. In the most hard hit areas. The field hospitals in Michigan, never used.

Yes we "saw" news reports (which we know are doctored) that showed refrigerated trucks. But that is also anecdotal.

Prove your statements you're making as fact. I've supported mine with evidence. Like I did here: https://www.steelernation.com/forums/threads/the-coronavirus-thread.34219/post-723051

Provide substance or stop opining with your unsubstantiated theories.

At least one hospital is being overwhelmed right now. Beaumont in Detroit is using tents to treat patients... as widely reported in the news.

So “substance” is acknowledging news reports and then dismissing them as doctored? Prove it.

 

[Badcat]

At least one hospital is being overwhelmed right now. Beaumont in Detroit is using tents to treat patients... as widely reported in the news.

So “substance” is acknowledging news reports and then dismissing them as doctored? Prove it.

Detroit is Third World City run by first class retards. Anything bad that happens there is never news worthy, it's expected.

 

[Troglodyte]

Where do you live? It seems every COVID related post you make reflects that your area is worse than about 90% of the country. I only ask because I want to make sure I never go there until you post that there hasn't been any COVID in about 6 months.

Excela is Westmoreland County which was hard hit in the fall, perhaps not coincidentally, shortly after a large maskless Trump rally nearby.

 

[Superman]

hmm. isnt Michigan one of the mask-mandated states?

aint seeing that punctuation in WuhanFlu increase in Florida.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

At least one hospital is being overwhelmed right now. Beaumont in Detroit is using tents to treat patients... as widely reported in the news.

So “substance” is acknowledging news reports and then dismissing them as doctored? Prove it.

Wow!!!!!! Woah holy ****.....ONE hospital is overrun, therefore the ENTIRE NATION was overwhelmed!!!

We're waiting for your link Hypoflog. Any evidence to demonstrate that COVID overwhelmed our hospitals last year. They all screamed and yelled and said it was gonna overwhelm us. And all the data (<-----data, evidence, reports of 225 hospital closures) showed this never materialized.

But Hypoflog remembers seeing a sensationalized news story that SAID it was happening.

Prove it. Linky. Evidence. Or STFU.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Excela is Westmoreland County which was hard hit in the fall, perhaps not coincidentally, shortly after a large maskless Trump rally nearby.

The hell? Did you skip your meds this morning? Sarge directed a question to Jitter about where he lives, and you answer??? Are you his Jen Psaki or something?

PS....that contribute button is up there^^^^^^^

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

hmm. isnt Michigan one of the mask-mandated states?

aint seeing that punctuation in WuhanFlu increase in Florida.

It is!! Michigan implemented one of the most stringent, draconian lock downs ever. ****, Komrade Whitmer was even preventing the sale of necessary baby items like car seats for awhile.

Yet....states like Texas and MS watch their cases fall and fall and fall by opening up.

I wouldn't be pointing to Michigan for much of anything good to be honest. Pretty bad reference if you ask me. ****, even one notable Big Bird went to school there.

 

[Troglodyte]

Wow!!!!!! Woah holy ****.....ONE hospital is overrun, therefore the ENTIRE NATION was overwhelmed!!!

We're waiting for your link Hypoflog. Any evidence to demonstrate that COVID overwhelmed our hospitals last year. They all screamed and yelled and said it was gonna overwhelm us. And all the data (<-----data, evidence, reports of 225 hospital closures) showed this never materialized.

But Hypoflog remembers seeing a sensationalized news story that SAID it was happening.

Prove it. Linky. Evidence. Or STFU.

It’s April, not January and we’re four months into vaccination. You already acknowledged the evidence. Prove the sensationalism or STFU.

565k dead, another 900 just yesterday, 47k currently hospitalized. Again, go back and read your posts from a year ago in this very thread. Maybe you’ll gain some much needed humility.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

It’s April, not January and we’re four months into vaccination. You already acknowledged the evidence. Prove the sensationalism or STFU.

565k dead, another 900 just yesterday, 47k currently hospitalized. Again, go back and read your posts from a year ago in this very thread. Maybe you’ll gain some much needed humility.

You made a claim, that hospitals were overwhelmed.

I have provided data. I provided data showing 225 hospitals laying off. Data you can prove like the Javitz Center and Comfort never being used in New York. Field hospitals shut down all over the nation, set up and never used.

Substantiate your claim. I have. Your word is meaningless. Prove it. Show the data Hypoflog.

 

[Superman]

It’s April, not January and we’re four months into vaccination. You already acknowledged the evidence. Prove the sensationalism or STFU.

565k dead, another 900 just yesterday, 47k currently hospitalized. Again, go back and read your posts from a year ago in this very thread. Maybe you’ll gain some much needed humility.

and we were supposed to have a long, dark winter
that's what Biden said.

was it ... yeah, not so much

 

[Tibs]

Again, go back and read your posts from a year ago in this very thread. Maybe you’ll gain some much needed humility.

Tim gaining 'some much needed humility?' That is simply not possible, not in this physical universe. Will never happen.

 

[IndySteel]

Tibs and Flog are like a couple of dung beetles, rolling a big ball of **** and passing it back and forth to hide behind.

 

[Troglodyte]

You made a claim, that hospitals were overwhelmed.

I have provided data. I provided data showing 225 hospitals laying off. Data you can prove like the Javitz Center and Comfort never being used in New York. Field hospitals shut down all over the nation, set up and never used.

Substantiate your claim. I have. Your word is meaningless. Prove it. Show the data Hypoflog.

I owe it to the healthcare professionals that worked ridiculously long hours attending to Covid patients the recognition that they were overwhelmed and served admirably, and sometimes even tragically. I owe your petulant, complaining-about-wearing-a-*******-mask *** nothing.

 

[Superman]

I owe it to the healthcare professionals that worked ridiculously long hours attending to Covid patients the recognition that they were overwhelmed and served admirably, and sometimes even tragically. I owe your petulant, complaining-about-wearing-a-*******-mask *** nothing.

did you tip your mask to them when you were in red-state non-mask-mandate Florida as you sipped a fruity drink with a bright pink umbrella at a Key West bar?

bet you welched on paying the tab, too. freeloader.

 

[Troglodyte]

did you tip your mask to them when you were in red-state non-mask-mandate Florida as you sipped a fruity drink with a bright pink umbrella at a Key West bar?

bet you welched on paying the tab, too. freeloader.

I was with a healthcare worker and an essential worker. Both very deserving of a vacation after their sacrifice. All of us fully vaccinated and still abiding by the airline and local mask mandates regardless. No complaining.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I owe it to the healthcare professionals that worked ridiculously long hours attending to Covid patients the recognition that they were overwhelmed and served admirably, and sometimes even tragically. I owe your petulant, complaining-about-wearing-a-*******-mask *** nothing.

You owe it to us not to show up here and sow misinformation. If you are going to make statements that are questionable, have the sac to prove it and back it up.

Otherwise, it's nothing more than 98.397% of what you type here, utter bullshit.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

I was with a healthcare worker and an essential worker. Both very deserving of a vacation after their sacrifice. All of us fully vaccinated and still abiding by the airline and local mask mandates regardless. No complaining.

Ahhh, Hypoflog. Chief Champion of Lockdowns, the Masked Marauder, Bubble Boy himself, traveling to FL and justifying his blatant hypocrisy while saying "I was vaccinated" while simultaneously not listening to Chief Liar Fauci who says you can still get the virus and transmit the virus after being vaccinated. Remember, Beijing Joe said "maybe" by July 4 you can have a small cookout.

They hypocrisy of Hypoflog knows no bounds.

PS...we're all essential workers.

 

[Troglodyte]

You owe it to us not to show up here and sow misinformation. If you are going to make statements that are questionable, have the sac to prove it and back it up.

Otherwise, it's nothing more than 98.397% of what you type here, utter bullshit.

Please. You love to post Tucker “No Reasonable Person Would Take Me Seriously” Carlson misinformation, HypoTimmyfromWestVirginny.

 

[Superman]

I was with a healthcare worker and an essential worker. Both very deserving of a vacation after their sacrifice. All of us fully vaccinated and still abiding by the airline and local mask mandates regardless. No complaining.

stiffed those ******* with the bill, didnt you?

 

[Superman]

Ahhh, Hypoflog. Chief Champion of Lockdowns, the Masked Marauder, Bubble Boy himself, traveling to FL and justifying his blatant hypocrisy while saying "I was vaccinated" while simultaneously not listening to Chief Liar Fauci who says you can still get the virus and transmit the virus after being vaccinated. Remember, Beijing Joe said "maybe" by July 4 you can have a small cookout.

They hypocrisy of Hypoflog knows no bounds.

PS...we're all essential workers.

WRONG, Tim. I'm not going to ever apologize for manbun, but you were way off base here. just so totally wrong that its embarrassing. you should be ashamed that you wasted Al Gore's bandwidth on this reply.


flog's boundary of hypocrisy ends at Key West.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Please. You love to post Tucker “No Reasonable Person Would Take Me Seriously” Carlson misinformation, HypoTimmyfromWestVirginny.

We are asking for any substantiation of your claim. Anything. We know you can't contribute to the board, so if you are going to purport theories as facts, at least at a minimum attempt to back them up.

 

[Superman]

We are asking for any substantiation of your claim. Anything. We know you can't contribute to the board, so if you are going to purport theories as facts, at least at a minimum attempt to back them up.

Flog citing a source:

Flog:
because I said so