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Covid Vaccine

From the venerable Steve Schmidt:

I’d like to offer a couple of other thoughts around our great national hostage situation.

The overwhelming majority has been taken hostage by an unyielding and ignorant minority that refuses, through their selfishness and stupidity to allow the nation to crush the Pandemic and move on. They will cause an unnecessary third wave, kill tens of thousands, harm the economy and disrupt education for a third consecutive year. They scream about rights and repeat nonsense like, “but HIPPA” with comprehension levels similar to a Parrot.

We will never hear an utterance, from any of them, around concepts like responsibility and obligation as they invoke “rights” which don’t exist. What to do?

I just spent the last couple of weeks in Europe and I have some thoughts. Flying internationally required BOTH, proof of vaccination and a negative Covid test, specifically a PCR test taken within 48 hours of travel. All airlines required masks and the Czech airline mandated a Chinese made ventilator mask that…. Well, it sucked and I hated wearing it but since I wanted to go to Prague, I did.

The lines at the airport required patience as the agents reviewed all of the documentation. During the weeks I was gone the number of tourists increased each day and the speed of the agents in the airports seemed to increase as well. Personally, I recognize all of this is a pain in the *** and I wish it weren’t so, But alas, it is.

There is no right to go to concerts, football and basketball games. There is no right to fly and there is no inherent right to be able to play unvaccinated in the NFL.

The government should never force a needle into anyone’s arm (military doesn’t count) but those people should accept the consequences of their actions and the consequences mean they are the ones in constant quarantine. They can stay home, while the world opens for the rest of us. Their world can shrink to the footprints of their living spaces as their choice denies them access to their places of employment and privately owned public venues.

Eric Clapton calls this discrimination. It’s not. It’s about choices. Choose your choice. Clapton doesn’t have to play any venue he doesn’t want to. No venue can be forced to admit unvaccinated people, same goes for restaurants, airlines and sport venues.

Enough is enough with the bullshit and insanity.

Faced with the choice between a dramatically shrunken world and a safe and effective vaccine it will be amazing to witness how many people leave the stupid behind at the clinic door.

It is time for the majority, through the power of the private sector and the proper application of incentives to bring this to heel.

Lastly, there is a vaccine mandate imposed by News Corp on Fox News. Every person lying to the American people who works there, all of them, are vaccinated.

The indifference of Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, and Mark Zuckerberg to the death and suffering they have caused is evidence of their immorality and sociopathy.

Together they make $ Billions exploiting the gullibility of their audiences, but in the end it is not the money they love so much as the power. They love the power and control over our society they have established with the fetid blend of dishonest extremism they have advanced.

It’s time to take back control of our collective future from the worst of us. It’s time to end the madness.
The ******* that wrote that is trying to use a virus with a .03% mortality rate to justify tyranny. The ******* that posted it, well he’s an *******.
 
The VAERS database death toll strangely glitched from 12,313 back down to 6,079, and Tucker covers the CDC's explanation for the glitch.

Weird indeed. Just a mistake I'm sure.


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If the vaccines are killing people, I wonder how The Donald is going to feel. Without his amazing leadership, I’m sure we wouldn’t even have the vaccines.
 
From the venerable Steve Schmidt:

I’d like to offer a couple of other thoughts around our great national hostage situation.

The overwhelming majority has been taken hostage by an unyielding and ignorant minority that refuses, through their selfishness and stupidity to allow the nation to crush the Pandemic and move on. They will cause an unnecessary third wave, kill tens of thousands, harm the economy and disrupt education for a third consecutive year. They scream about rights and repeat nonsense like, “but HIPPA” with comprehension levels similar to a Parrot.

We will never hear an utterance, from any of them, around concepts like responsibility and obligation as they invoke “rights” which don’t exist. What to do?

I just spent the last couple of weeks in Europe and I have some thoughts. Flying internationally required BOTH, proof of vaccination and a negative Covid test, specifically a PCR test taken within 48 hours of travel. All airlines required masks and the Czech airline mandated a Chinese made ventilator mask that…. Well, it sucked and I hated wearing it but since I wanted to go to Prague, I did.

The lines at the airport required patience as the agents reviewed all of the documentation. During the weeks I was gone the number of tourists increased each day and the speed of the agents in the airports seemed to increase as well. Personally, I recognize all of this is a pain in the *** and I wish it weren’t so, But alas, it is.

There is no right to go to concerts, football and basketball games. There is no right to fly and there is no inherent right to be able to play unvaccinated in the NFL.

The government should never force a needle into anyone’s arm (military doesn’t count) but those people should accept the consequences of their actions and the consequences mean they are the ones in constant quarantine. They can stay home, while the world opens for the rest of us. Their world can shrink to the footprints of their living spaces as their choice denies them access to their places of employment and privately owned public venues.

Eric Clapton calls this discrimination. It’s not. It’s about choices. Choose your choice. Clapton doesn’t have to play any venue he doesn’t want to. No venue can be forced to admit unvaccinated people, same goes for restaurants, airlines and sport venues.

Enough is enough with the bullshit and insanity.

Faced with the choice between a dramatically shrunken world and a safe and effective vaccine it will be amazing to witness how many people leave the stupid behind at the clinic door.

It is time for the majority, through the power of the private sector and the proper application of incentives to bring this to heel.

Lastly, there is a vaccine mandate imposed by News Corp on Fox News. Every person lying to the American people who works there, all of them, are vaccinated.

The indifference of Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, and Mark Zuckerberg to the death and suffering they have caused is evidence of their immorality and sociopathy.

Together they make $ Billions exploiting the gullibility of their audiences, but in the end it is not the money they love so much as the power. They love the power and control over our society they have established with the fetid blend of dishonest extremism they have advanced.

It’s time to take back control of our collective future from the worst of us. It’s time to end the madness.
why does Steve Schmidt hate black people?
 
From the venerable Steve Schmidt:

I’d like to offer a couple of other thoughts around our great national hostage situation.

The overwhelming majority has been taken hostage by an unyielding and ignorant minority that refuses, through their selfishness and stupidity to allow the nation to crush the Pandemic and move on. They will cause an unnecessary third wave, kill tens of thousands, harm the economy and disrupt education for a third consecutive year. They scream about rights and repeat nonsense like, “but HIPPA” with comprehension levels similar to a Parrot.

We will never hear an utterance, from any of them, around concepts like responsibility and obligation as they invoke “rights” which don’t exist. What to do?

I just spent the last couple of weeks in Europe and I have some thoughts. Flying internationally required BOTH, proof of vaccination and a negative Covid test, specifically a PCR test taken within 48 hours of travel. All airlines required masks and the Czech airline mandated a Chinese made ventilator mask that…. Well, it sucked and I hated wearing it but since I wanted to go to Prague, I did.

The lines at the airport required patience as the agents reviewed all of the documentation. During the weeks I was gone the number of tourists increased each day and the speed of the agents in the airports seemed to increase as well. Personally, I recognize all of this is a pain in the *** and I wish it weren’t so, But alas, it is.

There is no right to go to concerts, football and basketball games. There is no right to fly and there is no inherent right to be able to play unvaccinated in the NFL.

The government should never force a needle into anyone’s arm (military doesn’t count) but those people should accept the consequences of their actions and the consequences mean they are the ones in constant quarantine. They can stay home, while the world opens for the rest of us. Their world can shrink to the footprints of their living spaces as their choice denies them access to their places of employment and privately owned public venues.

Eric Clapton calls this discrimination. It’s not. It’s about choices. Choose your choice. Clapton doesn’t have to play any venue he doesn’t want to. No venue can be forced to admit unvaccinated people, same goes for restaurants, airlines and sport venues.

Enough is enough with the bullshit and insanity.

Faced with the choice between a dramatically shrunken world and a safe and effective vaccine it will be amazing to witness how many people leave the stupid behind at the clinic door.

It is time for the majority, through the power of the private sector and the proper application of incentives to bring this to heel.

Lastly, there is a vaccine mandate imposed by News Corp on Fox News. Every person lying to the American people who works there, all of them, are vaccinated.

The indifference of Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, and Mark Zuckerberg to the death and suffering they have caused is evidence of their immorality and sociopathy.

Together they make $ Billions exploiting the gullibility of their audiences, but in the end it is not the money they love so much as the power. They love the power and control over our society they have established with the fetid blend of dishonest extremism they have advanced.

It’s time to take back control of our collective future from the worst of us. It’s time to end the madness.
so you're for closing the border and testing immigrants for Covid before letting them into this country.
about goddamn time you came around.
 
so you're for closing the border and testing immigrants for Covid before letting them into this country.
about goddamn time you came around.

Tiblio don't care about those COVID cases. Those are COVID cases being carried in by southern border immigrants. Since they are future voters, we must assume the risk as Americans with the COVID they bring into this country.

Case in point.....

(do not expect to hear Tiblio or Floggy complain about this)


(The Center Square) – Rio Grande Valley Sector Chief Patrol Agent Brian Hastings reported that his sector at the Texas-Mexico border alone took into custody more than 15,000 illegal immigrants in one week, the most so far this year.

In the same sector, agents saw a 900% increase in those being detained who tested positive for the coronavirus.

“Even with the spread of the COVID-19 virus, human smugglers continue to try these brazen attempts with zero regard for the lives they endanger, nor to the health of the citizens of our great nation,” the RGV Border Patrol Sector said in a statement...


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The number of people being detained who have tested positive for COVID-19 in the Rio Grande Valley (RGV) Sector alone has increased by 900%.

In the first two weeks of July, 135 people being detained tested positive for COVID-19, a 900% increase in confirmed positive cases compared to the previous 14 months, Fox News reported.
 
Breakthrough cases” is the hotword of day

Notice how the officials are starting to turn away from case prevention and talking more about how it minimizes hospitalization s…

so its not about vaccines stopping the spread… its about it just not being so severe… and that’s something that should be a personal choice at this point…

again at this point in time no long term effects are really known of the process… if you are a potentially high danger demographic then it’s probably worth the risk… if not well thats what you have to devide…

acting like science has proven it safe is whistling past the graveyard at best… this is a speedy modification of a treatment that has never been totally vetted yet

hey im not taking the oral pill antivirus either that will be out in a couple months…. Same reasons…. There are several traditional vaccines in the final vetting process… that is using methods we already use just modified for covid… the long term problems there are probably not a concern at all

I really highly recommend everyone, especially liberals, revisit the liberal position on big pharma( which I wholeheartedly agree with)

Those companies have literally hundred of lost lawsuits for horrible abuses of products where they hid data showing horrible long term effects… but its fine because like with that merck case from 2011… they basically killed 50,000 people , caused hundreds of thousands of heart attacks, and were proven to have lied about the data to get it approved https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/merck-manipulated-science-about-drug-vioxx

now long after everyone was dead or hirt, they settled a nearly 5 billion dollar lawsuit and were fined another billion by the governments… but the net profit for that drug was over 12 billion dollars… they literally made bank mass murdering people

Every one of these vaccines companies has had billions in lawsuits for hiding or ignoring dangerous effects

there is no intelligent person who could look st their track record and not feel a bit skittish about these products

Ten years from now, sure sign me up for mnra stuff if there aren’t effects worthy of consideration… but right now, ill chance it
Well said.

Pharma lies repeatedly.

Pharma drugs save people, pharma drugs kill people. Pharma just doesn't like being held to accountability for the risks they CAUSE.

Pharma is big enough to hold off real opposition for years, while the pharma victims literally die off. Pharma benefits hugely from '"settling up later", simply because they have the resources and the former FDA staff to obfuscate longer than their victims live.

Where have all the recent departures from high level positions at FDA gone? its kinda laughable, like ex- politicos becoming "lobbyists".

Where does any liability with vaccines lie?

In a few years, this obscenity will be more obvious and hopefully the tide will turn.
 
My 60 year old brother just recently died from a rare form of dementia. Just found out tonight that his far left leaning wife insisted that while he was in an institution and quite advanced in his dementia he get the covid vaccine. Three days later he was dead.

This really pisses me off. She wouldn't even give him his requested Catholic funeral. Lefties are crap piles.
Sorry for your loss DJ.
So sorry that politics and personality get mixed into everything these days.....causing further division.
 
Novavax. Based in my hometown.

See you this fall. Can't wait!


Novavax announced on Monday that its COVID-19 vaccine was found to be over 90% effective overall, and offered 100% protection against moderate and severe disease in a Phase 3 clinical trial. The company said it intends to file for FDA authorization in the third quarter.

"Today, Novavax is one step closer to addressing the critical and persistent global public health need for additional COVID-19 vaccines," Stanley C. Erck, Novavax’s president and CEO said in a statement. "These clinical results reinforce that NVX-CoV2373 is extremely effective and offers complete protection against both moderate and severe COVID-19 infection. Novavax continues to work with a sense of urgency to complete our regulatory submissions and deliver this vaccine, built on a well understood and proven platform, to a world that is still in great need of vaccines."....


...The vaccine also demonstrated over 93% efficacy against variants of concern and variants of interest that were detected through sequencing of confirmed cases in the trial....


....The study noted that no single adverse event term was reported by more than 1% of participants and that the most common local symptoms reported after dose one and dose two was injection site pain described as generally mild to moderate in severity and lasting less than three days. Fatigue, headache and muscle pain were also reported as lasting less than two days...


...The Phase 3 PREVENT-19 trial had enrolled nearly 30,000 participants ages 18 and older in the U.S. and Mexico...A trial involving adolescents ages 12-17 is ongoing.


...The company said that following approval, it remains "on track to reach manufacturing capacity of 100 million doses per month by the end of the third quarter and 150 million doses per month by the end of the fourth quarter of 2021."
seems like good news.

How did they get to phase 3 so quickly?
 
My 60 year old brother just recently died from a rare form of dementia. Just found out tonight that his far left leaning wife insisted that while he was in an institution and quite advanced in his dementia he get the covid vaccine. Three days later he was dead.

This really pisses me off. She wouldn't even give him his requested Catholic funeral. Lefties are crap piles.
I'm sorry for your loss DJ. My deepest condolences to you and your family.
 
Darwin, take the wheel. For some, there truly is no hope.

USA Population: 331 Million
COVID Cases: 35.2 Million
COVID Deaths: 626,713 <--- if you believe this artificially inflated number

Rate: 0.00189

You're chances of dying from COVID are incredibly small.

Stop the fear pandering and educate yourself. Instead of swallowing all the kool-aid the Jim Jones media feeds you, research.

You act (still) as if this is the bubonic plague. It is not. You're a part of the fear porn industry.
 
Well said.

Pharma lies repeatedly.

Pharma drugs save people, pharma drugs kill people. Pharma just doesn't like being held to accountability for the risks they CAUSE.

Pharma is big enough to hold off real opposition for years, while the pharma victims literally die off. Pharma benefits hugely from '"settling up later", simply because they have the resources and the former FDA staff to obfuscate longer than their victims live.

Where have all the recent departures from high level positions at FDA gone? its kinda laughable, like ex- politicos becoming "lobbyists".

Where does any liability with vaccines lie?

In a few years, this obscenity will be more obvious and hopefully the tide will turn.
Pharma has saved many, many more lives than it has ended. Is it possible to anticipate every complication of every medical treatment with 100% accuracy? Of course not. Medicine is always a "benefits outweigh the risks" proposition. Otherwise nobody would have take any meds, nobody would any have surgery, for anything, ever.
 
Pharma has saved many, many more lives than it has ended. Is it possible to anticipate every complication of every medical treatment with 100% accuracy? Of course not. Medicine is always a "benefits outweigh the risks" proposition. Otherwise nobody would have take any meds, nobody would any have surgery, for anything, ever.
Both your statement and mine can be true at the same time.

That doesn't change the fact the in the eyes of pharma "the end justifies the means".

If society in general "pays the price" for the benefits of pharma, then not only pharma should benefit from the $$.

But that is not the case. In many areas of law, damages are commensurate with the rewards received from the aberrant behavior. But not for pharma; they get special rules and now operate like an oligopoly for vaccines......My ask is simply that pharma take care of those harmed, simply by using the massive profits....but they do not. WHY?
 
USA Population: 331 Million
COVID Cases: 35.2 Million
COVID Deaths: 626,713 <--- if you believe this artificially inflated number

Rate: 0.00189

You're chances of dying from COVID are incredibly small.

Stop the fear pandering and educate yourself. Instead of swallowing all the kool-aid the Jim Jones media feeds you, research.

You act (still) as if this is the bubonic plague. It is not. You're a part of the fear porn industry.
No, YOU are part of the Covid vaccine fear porn industry. The stats overwhelmingly prove it even if you do assume that everyone who has died after getting vaccinated died as a result of the vaccine.
 
That doesn't change the fact the in the eyes of pharma "the end justifies the means".

If society in general "pays the price" for the benefits of pharma, then not only pharma should benefit from the $$.

But that is not the case. In many areas of law, damages are commensurate with the rewards received from the aberrant behavior. But not for pharma; they get special rules and now operate like an oligopoly for vaccines......My ask is simply that pharma take care of those harmed, simply by using the massive profits....but they do not. WHY?

Because it takes about a billion dollars to bring a new drug to market. Because if multimillion dollar payouts for all of the few rare adverse events that occur become the norm, no one will want to invest in research and development. Because medicine has never and will never be a foolproof exact science, but without it our life expectancy might still be in the 40s. Because without vaccines which are relatively non-profitable for pharma companies, huge swaths of children would have died or been permanently disfigured. Because there is a public health interest in keeping these companies in business and keeping them researching and developing life saving medicines and vaccines.
 
No, YOU are part of the Covid vaccine fear porn industry. The stats overwhelmingly prove it even if you do assume that everyone who has died after getting vaccinated died as a result of the vaccine.
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If anyone can translate this Floggyism, please weigh in.
 
Because without vaccines which are relatively non-profitable for pharma companies

That's not a true statement. They make a profit for the flu vaccines even. Especially for THESE vaccines.

Even CNN admits as such.


Despite being priced at less than $20 per dose, Pfizer (PFE) expects sales of the vaccine it developed with BioNTech (BNTX) to total about $15 billion by the end of this year, with a profit margin of nearly 30%.

Vaccines are typically not the most profitable products in the Big Pharma catalog, especially compared to drugs used to treat chronic conditions.

"Flu vaccines on balance are a lower margin business," said Seamus Fernandez, senior managing director at Guggenheim Securities. There are of course exceptions — including the Prevnar vaccine that protects the elderly from pneumococcal pneumonia, which Fernandez describes as "extremely lucrative" for Pfizer. And the drug maker's Covid vaccine is likely to be an even a bigger money maker.

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Which vaccines do pharmas not make a profit on?
 
That's not a true statement. They make a profit for the flu vaccines even. Especially for THESE vaccines.

Even CNN admits as such.


Despite being priced at less than $20 per dose, Pfizer (PFE) expects sales of the vaccine it developed with BioNTech (BNTX) to total about $15 billion by the end of this year, with a profit margin of nearly 30%.

Vaccines are typically not the most profitable products in the Big Pharma catalog, especially compared to drugs used to treat chronic conditions.

"Flu vaccines on balance are a lower margin business," said Seamus Fernandez, senior managing director at Guggenheim Securities. There are of course exceptions — including the Prevnar vaccine that protects the elderly from pneumococcal pneumonia, which Fernandez describes as "extremely lucrative" for Pfizer. And the drug maker's Covid vaccine is likely to be an even a bigger money maker.

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Which vaccines do pharmas not make a profit on?
Did I say they don't make a profit on them? I said they are relatively non-profitable. Poor choice of words maybe, I should have said relatively less profitable than other products which is exactly what your article says.
 
Did I say they don't make a profit on them? I said they are relatively non-profitable. Poor choice of words maybe, I should have said relatively less profitable than other products which is exactly what your article says.
A 30% profit margin is HUGE. Really big.

Non-profitable means they make no money. They make money even on the flu vax.

I read your post, using non-profitable, literally - make no money..
 
Maybe this Trump administration official can help you understand your complete lack of perspective…


Spiraling out of control??? LMAO. If ever a statement embodied the word "hyperbole" this is it.

Our 7 day rolling average for deaths is 267 a day. STILL not a leading cause of death in the USA. Still less than June and FAR less than where we were in May. Deaths is the ultimate measure, and COVID simply is still not killing anywhere remotely near the #of people it was a year ago.

A couple years ago, we lost 80,000 people to the flu. That's 219 people a day. The reality is, most of those were lost in a 6 month span, so double that figure.

Perspective. This is no where remotely, closely near to "spiraling out of control."


Remember:

Our 7 day average for deaths on March 31 = 938
Our 7 day average for deaths on April 30 = 695
Our 7 day average for deaths on May 31 = 416
Our 7 day average for deaths on June 30 = 271
Our 7 day average July 19 = 268

Today...TODAY...our 7 day average is 267 a day. One less than it was 6/7 days ago. Less than 3 months ago, we were still averaging 695 a day. We are at just 38% of the April 30th number.

RAGING INFERNO
 
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