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Covid Vaccine

Interesting story my sister related yesterday. Her best friend's husband has Covid/flu-like sxs and went for testing. He tested negative. They asked for a flu test, and the clinic told them "we're not testing for flu."

Kind of explains the low number of flu cases.

I guess they will start testing for the flu again once Covid wanes, lol.
Im currently ill with something that isn’t covid… weirdly my average oxygen levels ( i have to take them daily through this stupid pandemic along with my temperature) has risen from typically 96 or 97 to 98…. Very weird cold…..
 
Also the Biden administration is trying to convert the testing from straight covid to a multitiered test that can determine flu or colds apart from covid

you know the same type of thing the trump administration wanted to do from the get go but got blasted for not using the quick and dirty test… lol

the initial test they went with should have been surplanted by a more extensive one long before this
 
Also the Biden administration is trying to convert the testing from straight covid to a multitiered test that can determine flu or colds apart from covid

you know the same type of thing the trump administration wanted to do from the get go but got blasted for not using the quick and dirty test… lol

the initial test they went with should have been surplanted by a more extensive one long before this
There has just been so much deceit and junk science from the start. Would have to be a complete lemming to trust anything we're being told. Maybe that's what they want in terms of sowing the panic and confusion. All part of the psyop of divide and conquer.
 
There has just been so much deceit and junk science from the start. Would have to be a complete lemming to trust anything we're being told. Maybe that's what they want in terms of sowing the panic and confusion. All part of the psyop of divide and conquer.
Never ever rule out that politicians are simply playing politics… there is no grand plan and they don’t really know what they are doing …..they simply do what is politically best for tgem in that moment

its my experience that all the government administrations are overly political these days and the best and the brightest are never ever involved in politics… they are all in the private markets.

seriously the cluelessness of new era epa officials boggles my mind… they could care less and know less about science… they all have an agenda on one of the polarized spectrums and they propose and mandates illogical things all the time…
 
This is a great thread if anyone wants to take a deep dive into some data.

 
My parents have had No.19 twice, one time before the shot and one time after the shot. Nothing much to write home about on either time, other than my mom losing smell and taste for a month the first go around.

The delta was like a cold/sinus infection, but they are the definition of great health and exceptional nutrition. She just flushed out the sinuses a few times early on and it helped eradicate the massive headache.
 
More people in Florida are catching Covid, are hospitalized and dying now than at *any previous point* in the pandemic.

New Covid cases are 30% higher that the previous high in Jan. Over 17k are hospitalized.

But masks are bad. Vaccines are bad.



What’s the ages and BMI of the people being hospitalized and dying?
 
What’s the ages and BMI of the people being hospitalized and dying?
There you go trying to inject logic into an emotionally charged issue.

I read that the LA school district is going to require weekly Covid tests for ALL students and employees from now until apparently forever.
500,000 weekly tests, when will they find time to actually teach?
 
There you go trying to inject logic into an emotionally charged issue.

I read that the LA school district is going to require weekly Covid tests for ALL students and employees from now until apparently forever.
500,000 weekly tests, when will they find time to actually teach?
There you go assuming that teaching is actually useful to the students.
 
Remember when there was a mad rush for the n95 masks?
Shortages for Healthcare workers etc......well that seems long past.
Since the N95s are 5x more likely to stop flu/covid aerosols, why aren't those most at-risk being outfitted with these better masks?
Billions and billions of dollars for more vaccines, and now growing mask mandates with almost zero attention to the mask quality.
Why not protect those at greater risk with better masks?
 
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All you do is waffle.

South Dakota: You argue what a disaster they are based on their rate per 100K! JFC!
Vermont: I point out their rates per 100K or 14 day rates are growing, you argue rates are irrelevant because - population. JFC!

SD Population: 885K
Vermont Population: 624K

Both...tiny...states based on population.

But when it suits you, you will scream yell rant rave about SD's rates. When it doesn't, you argue who cares if it goes from 26 to 75 because the # is small.......

PA and VA have already blown the doors off of MO's declining rates, but nary a mention from you on that.

Keep swinging, keep missing.

Yer a god damned joke.
South Dakota you say? Waffling is leaving them out of the “worsening” states.


AND… PA has almost twice as many people as MO, the number of PAs unvaccinated is probably close to Missouri’s entire population. PA should have more cases.
 
South Dakota you say? Waffling is leaving them out of the “worsening” states.


AND… PA has almost twice as many people as MO, the number of PAs unvaccinated is probably close to Missouri’s entire population. PA should have more cases.

You wouldn't understand the definition of waffling if it smacked you between the eyes.

You persistently omit 49 states, point to 1 state, then say see!! **** off and stay on topic. I've been talking specifically about the SPREAD of this wave from the lower mid South, north...through the mid-atlantic, lower midwest and up into the Northeast. Cases are rising EVERYWHERE, even in SD. Yet you've been here arguing ONLY unvaccinated states have seen a rise. THAT is waffling son. Making an argument, then spinning and changing the argument.

Are cases now rising outside of the lower mid south?

Re: PA, you're back to absolute numbers again. What is your basis today Floggy, population, cases, case rates, deaths, death rates. Difficult to shoot a dancing chicken.
 
More people in Florida are catching Covid, are hospitalized and dying now than at *any previous point* in the pandemic.

New Covid cases are 30% higher that the previous high in Jan. Over 17k are hospitalized.

But masks are bad. Vaccines are bad.




Do you ever bother to read what you post before you post it?

Cases are higher than previously, deaths are not.

Why are your vaccines and masks not working Tiblio?
 
You wouldn't understand the definition of waffling if it smacked you between the eyes.

You persistently omit 49 states, point to 1 state, then say see!! **** off and stay on topic. I've been talking specifically about the SPREAD of this wave from the lower mid South, north...through the mid-atlantic, lower midwest and up into the Northeast. Cases are rising EVERYWHERE, even in SD. Yet you've been here arguing ONLY unvaccinated states have seen a rise. THAT is waffling son. Making an argument, then spinning and changing the argument.

Are cases now rising outside of the lower mid south?

Re: PA, you're back to absolute numbers again. What is your basis today Floggy, population, cases, case rates, deaths, death rates. Difficult to shoot a dancing chicken.
One state? Nonsense. I’ve referred to the retarded Bible Belt numerous times. I told you in mid July cases were rising EVERYWHERE, you denied it. Cases started rising everywhere at the same time. See the Cases by Region graph, the difference is the trajectory. FACT.

 
Now you are using the Massachusetts math you railed on yesterday. "But, but, but Tim it's still only a dozen cases"

Now you point to the US going from 197 cases one day to 330 and scream OMG!!! Show me a trend, I'll pay attention. Let's focus on 14 days. Because you are calling our levels rising cases. Track from June 18 when we were at 392 deaths. Yesterday was 330. Despite tiny ups and downs in those numbers, deaths have remained flat.

We have averaged 256 deaths per day for nearly a month with ups and downs from 392 to 104, but you're chanting deaths are rising. Yep. SMH.

US Deaths for the ill-informed:

DATEDEATHS
June 18392
June 19244
June 20144
June 21243
June 22429
June 23380
June 24386
June 25368
June 26203
June 27130
June 28167
June 29313
June 30300
July 1317
July 2322
July 3153
July 4113
July 5117
July 6237
July 7266
July 8337
July 9319
July 10182
July 11104
July 12171
July 13307
How’s about an update, Tim!
 
One state? Nonsense. I’ve referred to the retarded Bible Belt numerous times. I told you in mid July cases were rising EVERYWHERE, you denied it. Cases started rising everywhere at the same time. See the Cases by Region graph, the difference is the trajectory. FACT.


Wrong the # of times you have pointed to ONE state as evidence of the lot has been hundreds.

"But look at PA!
But look at CT!
But look at SD!
But look at ND!
JFC!!!"

Please, you look like an ignorant fool trying to say now you haven't said just those things. Moron.

Cases did NOT start rising everywhere at the same time dumbass. They didn't in wave 1. It rose in Washington State and the Northeast before spreading. During wave 2, cases didn't not start rising simultaneously everywhere. Delta did NOT hit every state at the same time idiot.

Viruses spread. They don't just inject the whole of earth all at once..

If your stupid, baseless theory was correct, then Lambda variant would be everywhere now. Is it? Nope.

Moron.

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How’s about an update, Tim!

Oh I'm willing to stand on that. That was then, this is now. We now have a very different trend. A very disturbing trend that shows our strategies are not working, nor are the vaccines.

We all hoped the vaccines would work coupled with the growing natural immunity. They aren't working. This is the moral of all of this. All of this vaccination is proving to be ineffective. Like masking and lockdowns.

Sadly we may be staring at natural immunity as being the real savior until true vaccines (not shots) are developed that actually work.

Have you had your 12th booster yet?
 
I suspect the vaccines were a placebo. They seem completely ineffective. Am I right?
 
I suspect the vaccines were a placebo. They seem completely ineffective. Am I right?
You are partially correct.

The rushed Covid vaccines are just this year's versions of the flu vaccine, and gosh darnit, the flu got a new strain. Or I mean Covid got a new variant. Yeah, thats the ticket.
 
Wrong the # of times you have pointed to ONE state as evidence of the lot has been hundreds.

"But look at PA!
But look at CT!
But look at SD!
But look at ND!
JFC!!!"

Please, you look like an ignorant fool trying to say now you haven't said just those things. Moron.

Cases did NOT start rising everywhere at the same time dumbass. They didn't in wave 1. It rose in Washington State and the Northeast before spreading. During wave 2, cases didn't not start rising simultaneously everywhere. Delta did NOT hit every state at the same time idiot.

Viruses spread. They don't just inject the whole of earth all at once..

If your stupid, baseless theory was correct, then Lambda variant would be everywhere now. Is it? Nope.

Moron.

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Argue with the graph, Tim. It clearly shows cases rising in all regions simultaneously. The difference being the trajectory. Or just name call.
 
I suspect the vaccines were a placebo. They seem completely ineffective. Am I right?
It got KISS' tour date in Pittsburgh postponed when Paul Stanley got the 'Rona after being vaccinated.

 
Oh I'm willing to stand on that. That was then, this is now. We now have a very different trend. A very disturbing trend that shows our strategies are not working, nor are the vaccines.

We all hoped the vaccines would work coupled with the growing natural immunity. They aren't working. This is the moral of all of this. All of this vaccination is proving to be ineffective. Like masking and lockdowns.

Sadly we may be staring at natural immunity as being the real savior until true vaccines (not shots) are developed that actually work.

Have you had your 12th booster yet?
The vaccines are working, Tim. The unvaccinated are learning that the hard way. Your denial in fanatical and unhinged.


 
I got the J & J , but I respect everyone’s right to make the choice. I can be described as extremely conservative. I just don’t understand when I see people who are over 50 and obese who are in the hospital because they didn’t get the shot. If you’re not at risk, who is? I am 50 and in decent shape, so I would hope I could fight off COVID, but I decided to get it. If I grow a 3rd arm 10 years from now, so be it. Honestly, I don’t think I want to be around in 15 years to see what this shitshow of a world will be like. My youngest daughter has not had kids yet and I hate to say that I hope she doesn’t. I can’t imagine what life will be like for her , much less another generation.
 
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