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They have even more uneducated, ignorant rednecks. Why do you love those people?
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Fact check: Study on breakthrough delta cases in Vietnam misrepresented online
The website, The Defender, which is published by the anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, posted an article this week that distorts the findings of a recent study of breakthrough delta infections among vaccinated hospital staff in Vietnam.
You don't understand vaccines, which these aren't. You spin incessantly to point to the unmasked, the unvaccinated, as the root of all evil in the world. That is literally yours and your *** buddy Tiblio's end game.
The vaccines....errr, shots....are not very effective. REAL vaccines prevent spread AND lessen severity of symptoms. These vaccines are NOT preventing spread...maybe at all, AND when you have hospital systems in the USA (Your Article You Posted from the PPG) showing 30 and 40% of hospitalized are vaccinated....the efficacy of the vaccines is highly questionable.
At what time in your life did you need vaccine boosters 6 months after getting a vaccine? Hmmmm?
We have an annual flu SHOT...not a vaccine.
Go on, keep telling me what a damned dream these vaccines are.
Until the vaccines start working and doing what they are "supposed" to do, I'm not standing by them with the undying love you have for them. We need them to work. They aren't working as intended. Not even close.
Can you point me to your database of rednecks? I'd like to see where they all reside. Biggest *** redneck state IMHO is Florida (go to the center of the state).
Redneck is an opinion. I can tell you where minorities and Somalians live in the USA. Rednecks? Nah, not so much.
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I'm from here. I have 5 degrees and can spot a moron when I see one... and I see one now. You don't know anything about my state so STFU you ignorant POS.
Because Jimmy loves ALL people, except blowhard, self-righteous, pompous, hypocritical, douchebag, double-standard flouting liars.
So stop hating black people.
Ok so the 200* number is incorrect… but as the article you posted states, 2 studies have found no difference in viral loads of vaccinated and unvaccinated carriers… therefore the vaccine isn’t actually redcing infection, just hospitalization and even those numbers are waningFact check: Study on breakthrough delta cases in Vietnam misrepresented online
The website, The Defender, which is published by the anti-vaccine organization, Children’s Health Defense, posted an article this week that distorts the findings of a recent study of breakthrough delta infections among vaccinated hospital staff in Vietnam.www.adn.com
Once more Canada just bought enough vaccines for every person in tge country to have a booster every 2 months for over 3 years despite no idea if boosters even really work or what long term use of them does
He's a self-righteous, liberal/socialist, and like the expatriate, is incapable of admitting being wrong on literally any subject. There was a time when I found the best course of action was to avoid these people, then easy to do, but today they seem to be everywhere and multiplying at an exponential rate.
And here is another peeve of mine… do you know why all the right wing sites get to spin data their way? Because tge msm quit trying to be objective and won’t even cover studies as they come out… there are over 15,000 medical journals that publish papers and it would be great to have some unbiased coverage for once…. Why isn’t there an official cdc study on each vaccines current contagious rates and hospitalization anywhere
why do we have to rely on foreign data so much…
damnit do the studies and release the data, not just a summary opinion that ultimately proves to be wrong
why do we have to rely on foreign data so much…
damnit do the studies and release the data, not just a summary opinion that ultimately proves to be wrong
The Center For Disease Control is much too busy focusing on free housing and pronouns to be concerned with, well, a disease.
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You conveniently ignore everything in that article that the doctors (which you certainly are not) say about the effectiveness of the vaccine.
You’re fixated on the virus stopping the spread because you’re unvaccinated. Vaccinated people are more concerned with the virus preventing serious illness. You have to get vaccinated for the vaccine to be effective, imagine that!
you forget more than you'll ever know.
in fact, TSF even said that it's likely he's already had the dreaded NewChineseFlu. which would give him natural antibodies. Which has been said to prevent serious infection going forward. Even better than the artificial soy **** you and millions of others (including me) have had injected into their bloodstream.
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The viral load in people who get infected is the same. You are still less likely to get infected. The vaccines are not as effective at preventing infection as with the earlier variant, but they are not completely ineffective at preventing infection. Studies so far have shown varied levels of protection against infection with delta, and also some decline in effectiveness over time, but none have showed zero effectiveness against infection.
Here's How Well COVID-19 Vaccines Work Against the Delta Variant
In the fight against the delta variant, here is how the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines measure up when it comes to protection. A new study found the Moderna vaccine was 76% effective against the Delta variant, while the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective...
www.healthline.com
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
Due to limited research so far, trying to determine the effectiveness of each vaccine against the Delta variant remains a challenge. However, there have been promising results from multiple studies.Study 1 and real-life data
According to an analysis carried out by Public Health England, two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine appeared to be about 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease and 96 percent effective against hospitalization with the Delta variant.The same study suggested that the vaccine was approximately 80 percent effective against preventing infection from the Delta variant. Scientists came to this conclusion after analyzing 14,019 people with an infection, 166 of whom were hospitalized, in England.
Vaccines had a protective effect against infections with Delta and hospital cases were milder, the study found.
Public Health England also shared real-world data in May that solidified the importance of having a second dose of COVID-19 vaccine. The analysis suggested that a single dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine offered only about 33 percent protection against symptomatic disease.
This was a reduction from the previous 50 percent effectiveness estimated against the alpha variant.
The study also found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant 2 weeks after the second dose.
Study 2
A reportTrusted Source published in the journal Nature reflected the findings that a single shot of a two-dose vaccine such as Pfizer-BioNTech or AstraZeneca provided “barely” any protection.However, researchers also reported that people who had received two doses of a vaccine had significantly more protection against infection with the Delta variant, with researchers estimating a level of 95 percent effectiveness.
The study also found that the Delta variant was less sensitive to “sera from naturally immunized individuals,” meaning people who had a prior infection may not be protected against reinfection with the Delta variant.
Study 3
A study in Canada, meanwhile, found that two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine worked just as well against the Delta variant as it did with alpha. It has not yet been peer reviewed.The study suggested the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was around 87 percent effective 14 days after two doses.
Study 4
A study in Scotland found similar results. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, researchers concluded, offered “very good” protection against the Delta variant and demonstrated 79 percent effectiveness 14 days after receiving the second dose.Study 5
A study in Israel was more of an outlier and found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine did not offer as high protection as previously estimated. The study suggested the vaccine was about 64 percent effective against preventing infection with the Delta variant and 64 percent effective against symptomatic illness after two doses.But scientists have pointed out that the full data has not yet been released, and it may have included asymptomatic infections picked up by Israel’s surveillance program.
Study 6
A study that analyzed vaccine effectiveness in India, where the Delta variant first emerged, found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant after two doses.Effectiveness was considerably lower after one vaccine dose, however, at approximately 36 percent.
Study 7
A U.S. study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, suggests that the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine has decreased against the Delta variant.The data found that the vaccine offered 42 percent protection against symptomatic infection with the Delta variant in July, compared to over 76 percent in January.
The study also noted that those vaccinated with Pfizer were twice as likely to experience a “breakthrough infection”, compared to the Moderna vaccine.
Study 8
An Oxford University study on the impact of the delta variant on COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness found that two doses of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine still offer significant protection against infection with the now prevalent variant but that this wanes within three months.The study indicated that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine 90 days after the second dose dropped to 75 percent, compared to 85 percent two weeks after the second dose. However, this decline was more apparent in those older than 35 years of age.
The study has yet to be peer-reviewed.
Study 9
A studyTrusted Source, known as HEROES-RECOVER and published in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, showed that vaccine effectiveness against preventing symptomatic and asymptomatic infection with the Delta variant fell to 66 percent from over 90 percent.The real-world study tested over 4,000 U.S. frontline workers, more than 4 in 5 who were vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines.
None of us...no one, needs to be a doctor to...
- Understand the words of the CDC and Rochelle Walensky: The vaccines no longer stop the spread of COVID
- Witness the RISING number of breakthrough infections we were all told were only gonna be about 1%.
- Watch the rising number of vaccinated patients who are being hospitalized
- Hear the head of the Jerusalem hospital stating 90% of their hospitalized are vaccinated
- Read YOUR PPG article showing 30 and 40% of hospitalized patients in that area are vaccinated
- Watch the ever growing number of cases in the USA while we are 52% fully/61% partially vaccinated
WELL HERE WE ARE.
These shots are nothing like the measles, diptheria, mumps, polio vaccines.
And answer my question: When was the last time you needed a booster shot for a vaccine? Answer.
Sarge, have you considered getting the antibody test to see if you had it? They should still be floating around. Might be good info to know down the road. I had something similar just before Covid was mainstream news but did not even consider getting tested for the flu, etc. at the time. For grins I had the blood test done last Spring..About a year and 2-3 months after I had the same thing as you. The test came back negative but at that point it was to be expected. I should have asked for the T-cell check as the T cells are supposed to trigger antibody response after they have gone dormant.
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The irony…
www.post-gazette.com
Tony Norman: When nay becomes neigh: The horsification of the American mind
When future historians debate the strangest moment in American history, the consensus pick won’t be difficult to imagine. Really, there can only...
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Tim, as a child, not trusting the accepted school of thought that electricity is real.
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Vaccine boosters that children need include:
- Hepatitis A
- Hepatitis B
- Haemophilus influenzae type B (Hib)
- Measles-mumps-rubella (MMR)
- Tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis (Tdap)
- Varicella
The HPV vaccine is three shots, a certain number of months apart.
International travelers may need certain vaccines, depending on their destinations. Antibodies from these vaccines wear off over time, so make sure you're up to date on vaccines for diseases like typhoid and malaria.
Boosters are nothing new or unusual.
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For me, you can add Anthrax to that list.
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I can't agree that they aren't working. At this point, they are keeping hospitalizations and deaths down among those vaccinated. What I can say is that what they provide has changed a time or two.
For example...
1) Take the vaccine and you won't catch COVID.
2) Take the vaccine, so you won't spread COVID.
3) Take the vaccine. You can still catch and spread COVID, but you are less likely to be hospitalized or die.
There may have been more.
It's almost as though they aren't exactly certain what this "vaccine" actually does.
And people wonder why there is mistrust.
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How about its the lack of normal drug studies, combined with intense politicization of the vaccines and a media that amplified every single bit of information as "science", at least for a short while.
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"Who's got tickets?"The viral load in people who get infected is the same. You are still less likely to get infected. The vaccines are not as effective at preventing infection as with the earlier variant, but they are not completely ineffective at preventing infection. Studies so far have shown varied levels of protection against infection with delta, and also some decline in effectiveness over time, but none have showed zero effectiveness against infection.
Here's How Well COVID-19 Vaccines Work Against the Delta Variant
In the fight against the delta variant, here is how the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccines measure up when it comes to protection. A new study found the Moderna vaccine was 76% effective against the Delta variant, while the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective...
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine
Due to limited research so far, trying to determine the effectiveness of each vaccine against the Delta variant remains a challenge. However, there have been promising results from multiple studies.
Study 1 and real-life data
According to an analysis carried out by Public Health England, two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine appeared to be about 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease and 96 percent effective against hospitalization with the Delta variant.
The same study suggested that the vaccine was approximately 80 percent effective against preventing infection from the Delta variant. Scientists came to this conclusion after analyzing 14,019 people with an infection, 166 of whom were hospitalized, in England.
Vaccines had a protective effect against infections with Delta and hospital cases were milder, the study found.
Public Health England also shared real-world data in May that solidified the importance of having a second dose of COVID-19 vaccine. The analysis suggested that a single dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine offered only about 33 percent protection against symptomatic disease.
This was a reduction from the previous 50 percent effectiveness estimated against the alpha variant.
The study also found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant 2 weeks after the second dose.
Study 2
A reportTrusted Source published in the journal Nature reflected the findings that a single shot of a two-dose vaccine such as Pfizer-BioNTech or AstraZeneca provided “barely” any protection.
However, researchers also reported that people who had received two doses of a vaccine had significantly more protection against infection with the Delta variant, with researchers estimating a level of 95 percent effectiveness.
The study also found that the Delta variant was less sensitive to “sera from naturally immunized individuals,” meaning people who had a prior infection may not be protected against reinfection with the Delta variant.
Study 3
A study in Canada, meanwhile, found that two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine worked just as well against the Delta variant as it did with alpha. It has not yet been peer reviewed.
The study suggested the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was around 87 percent effective 14 days after two doses.
Study 4
A study in Scotland found similar results. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, researchers concluded, offered “very good” protection against the Delta variant and demonstrated 79 percent effectiveness 14 days after receiving the second dose.
Study 5
A study in Israel was more of an outlier and found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine did not offer as high protection as previously estimated. The study suggested the vaccine was about 64 percent effective against preventing infection with the Delta variant and 64 percent effective against symptomatic illness after two doses.
But scientists have pointed out that the full data has not yet been released, and it may have included asymptomatic infections picked up by Israel’s surveillance program.
Study 6
A study that analyzed vaccine effectiveness in India, where the Delta variant first emerged, found that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against the Delta variant after two doses.
Effectiveness was considerably lower after one vaccine dose, however, at approximately 36 percent.
Study 7
A U.S. study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, suggests that the effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine has decreased against the Delta variant.
The data found that the vaccine offered 42 percent protection against symptomatic infection with the Delta variant in July, compared to over 76 percent in January.
The study also noted that those vaccinated with Pfizer were twice as likely to experience a “breakthrough infection”, compared to the Moderna vaccine.
Study 8
An Oxford University study on the impact of the delta variant on COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness found that two doses of either the Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine still offer significant protection against infection with the now prevalent variant but that this wanes within three months.
The study indicated that the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine 90 days after the second dose dropped to 75 percent, compared to 85 percent two weeks after the second dose. However, this decline was more apparent in those older than 35 years of age.
The study has yet to be peer-reviewed.
Study 9
A studyTrusted Source, known as HEROES-RECOVER and published in the CDC’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, showed that vaccine effectiveness against preventing symptomatic and asymptomatic infection with the Delta variant fell to 66 percent from over 90 percent.
The real-world study tested over 4,000 U.S. frontline workers, more than 4 in 5 who were vaccinated with either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccines.
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Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that.
Thus my question was, "WHEN" was the last time you needed a vaccine booster? Incredibly rare. Typically, tetanus is what we may all get if we haven't had one in 10 to 15 years. The rest are typically two phases done in our youth. The others listed are "may" and some are travel related.
None of that compares to where we are now. People who received the "vaccine" in May or April already lining up for shot 3. Less than 6 months later.
With variants still coming, we are going to need boosters what...every 6 months? Every 12? What vaccine in history has required an annual shot? And don't say the flu. That's not a vaccine.
Or we all agree, given where we are after this world-wide experiment, that these aren't really vaccines, they are comparable to flu shots.