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Covid Vaccine

Troglodyte said:
The people that died from Covid didn’t CHOOSE to die. The healthcare workers CHOSE to refuse vaccination. I’m sure eventually some of them will also die from
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Troglodyte said:
The people that died from Covid didn’t CHOOSE to die. The healthcare workers CHOSE to refuse vaccination. I’m sure eventually some of them will also die from Covid.
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Other than suicide, who CHOOSES to die?

And thank you for completely ignoring the question posed to you about small, minute, “drama” percentages.
That 2% figure you threw out there for health care workers doesn’t equally apply to COVID deaths, huh?

I gotta hand it to you. You are a troll of EPIC proportions. Surely you're a direct descendant of Andy Kaufman.
 
Tibs said:
Do you have any Jewish friends, neighbors, co-workers? Show them your meme and ask them what they think of it.
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Oh I love when people speak of that which they do not know.

I live in one of the biggest Jewish enclaves in the USA. My son's longtime girlfriend is Jewish. I'm tailgating Saturday with her Jewish parents. I've worked for 2 Israeli-based companies. Half of my immediate co-workers are Jewish. My kids friends are easily 40% Jewish, and two of my oldest son's girlfriends have been Jewish. Back in the day, I dated a Jewish woman. From my friends network, easily 40% of them are Jewish.

And you know what? In those circles, we discuss these issues. Guess what? Easily half of them agree that this is Nazi like what we are doing and forcing vaccine passports reminds them of what happened to their ancestors.

I know you think you speak for the world, but you just showed what a bubble you exist in.
 
Troglodyte said:
The vaccine does prevent the spread for at least three months.

www.nature.com

COVID vaccines cut the risk of transmitting Delta — but not for long

People who receive two COVID-19 jabs and later contract the Delta variant are less likely to infect their close contacts than are unvaccinated people with Delta.
www.nature.com www.nature.com
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You're such a dipshit, you don't even read what you now link to. Do you realize that this article discusses vaccines NOT IN USE IN THE USA, the AZ vaccine??????

Good lord man! LOL

And you're touting "limiting" (not preventing) spread for ONLY 3 months as some form of a feat???
 
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Tim Steelersfan said:
Easily half of them agree that this is Nazi like what we are doing and forcing vaccine passports reminds them of what happened to their ancestors.
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Be careful when lying so blatantly. It could nip you in the ***.

The fact YOU think this is equivalent in any, way, shape or form to Nazis eradicating millions of Jews during the Holocaust speaks for itself.

Nothing further needs to be said.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You found the same article...but are still wrong LMAO

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Do you ever apologize when exposed this badly?
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Idiot, those are ALL-TIME cases (PRE and post vaccine), did you really think it made sense that the current case rate was 765/10,000, that one out of every thirteen 20-29 year olds currently has Covid? That would be quite something! Below that is CURRENT cases, ages 0-9 is highest, then 10-19 year-olds.

Scroll further down and you’ll see that breakthrough cases represent only .6%, or 1 out of every 167 of fully vaccinated people.

You’ve been exposed as being mathematically and graphically dyslexic.
 
fedderone said:
Other than suicide, who CHOOSES to die?

And thank you for completely ignoring the question posed to you about small, minute, “drama” percentages.
That 2% figure you threw out there for health care workers doesn’t equally apply to COVID deaths, huh?

I gotta hand it to you. You are a troll of EPIC proportions. Surely you're a direct descendant of Andy Kaufman.
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It’s silly to compare people losing their jobs because they CHOSE not to do something to people dying, period.

I refute social media and YouTube nonsense with MULTIPLE news reports citing MULTIPLE health officials and doctors stating the SAME thing and that makes me a troll? Whatever.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
Well, if true, and really who knows at this point, are you proposing 4 boosters a year from now until the end of time?
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If you paid attention, you would have seen that I questioned the need for the current booster.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You're such a dipshit, you don't even read what you now link to. Do you realize that this article discusses vaccines NOT IN USE IN THE USA, the AZ vaccine??????

Good lord man! LOL

And you're touting "limiting" (not preventing) spread for ONLY 3 months as some form of a feat???
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If everyone was vaccinated, spread wouldn’t really matter much, limited or not.
 
Tibs said:
Be careful when lying so blatantly. It could nip you in the ***.

The fact YOU think this is equivalent in any, way, shape or form to Nazis eradicating millions of Jews during the Holocaust speaks for itself.

Nothing further needs to be said.
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After the four years of constant comparisons of Trump to Hitler, many by you, I can't fathom how you now have the gall to feign be upset by what is a far more apt comparison. The hypocrisy is total.
 
I just want everyone to think rationally…
ZonaBurgh said:
Are these vaccines safe, the only real answer is maybe.

https://www.wtae.com/article/persis...es-months-after-covd-19-vaccinations/37897449
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and that is the part that the vaccine mandaters aren’t addressing…

Have we had lightning quick vaccines out before during pandemics… absolutely

Are some vaccines approved under the typical 5-20 year clinical trial and application process… rarely, but sure…

But in those cases its always a vaccine methodology already in use and already proven… and there is already a boatload of long term effect data out there to build fast clinical trials around…

Here we are using two similar brand spanking new mrna methods and a third employing a relatively new rejiggered method that has had limited success as an ebola vaccine… at least that one we know the potential severe side effects to some extent…

Its all sheeple herding at this point… Wikipedia trimmed its section on viral vector vaccines of all criticism or negative impacts .. it now explicitly states that it never effects the genome.. but if you hop over to the viral vector method section, it explains that it can modify the genome…

The vaccine section is clearly edited to trim any situation where people might get nervous about taking it…

Or like how the pfizer people are covering up the use of fetus material to keep the section of people opposed to that in the dark about it

Yeah there are risks all around

If you are over 65 you should probably get it, if you are under 30 you probably shouldn’t and everyone else should make an educated decision on it
 
Tibs said:
Be careful when lying so blatantly. It could nip you in the ***.
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And...defeat. You have nothing left but to accuse me of lying. If anything, I'm probably underestimating the numbers. You have no clue how many Jewish people are a part of my life. You would be surprised. And everything I said, 100% true.

Last night (with my youngest being home from college), we went to a restaurant/bar. Sitting at the bar next to us was my son's prior youth basketball coach. Jewish. He introduced us to his friends, the "Friedmans" who we didn't know, but who my son knew from HS. We spent 2 hours eating and drinking, the 3 of us, with 3 Jews. Dude, it's literally every time I step out my front door, I'm engaging with my Jewish friends or neighbors or community members.

You'd hate those Jews. No masks Tiblio. Not a single mask. Drinking, watching the Rams and Seahawks. Not a care in the world. Not hiding under their bed either.

I live in one of the largest densely populated Jewish areas in the country. Sorry you're not as multi-cultural and woke as me. Think what will.

Tibs said:
The fact YOU think this is equivalent in any, way, shape or form to Nazis eradicating millions of Jews during the Holocaust speaks for itself.
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Twist it any way you want asshat. It is comparable in that people were labeled, forced to have papers/documents just to move and began what became a material division of people between acceptable and expendable.

100% exactly like what is happening now.
 
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ZonaBurgh said:
Well, if true, and really who knows at this point, are you proposing 4 boosters a year from now until the end of time?
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daily pills
 
And once more… do you want a moderate, reasonable solution….

Release the damn vaccines made with old proven methods… there are already a half dozen in use or waiting approval… what in the **** is the hold up…

Ill go get a flu shot modified for the Covid… im pretty sure that isn’t going to give me any weird effects ten years from now…
 
Troglodyte said:
If everyone was vaccinated, spread wouldn’t really matter much, limited or not.
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except in the breakthrough cases ... which you only acknowledge when its convenient
 
Troglodyte said:
If everyone was vaccinated, spread wouldn’t really matter much, limited or not.
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Meh there is a legit scientific reason that people aren’t vaccinated at birth with imperfect vaccines but rather only given them when they enter a high danger area for the disease and no good perfect vaccine or easy treatment exists…

They carry a risk of speeding up viral evolution to something that avoids the vaccine antibodies and there is a risk that the vaccine antibody response eventually is irrelevant and actually slows down the natural response … yeah its a thing they look for in real clinical trials and why we don’t have annual boosters for anything but the flu… which is more strain specific than leaky… so it's not the same thing… or so i am told…

journals.plos.org

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens

A study using Marek's disease virus in poultry shows that by reducing natural selection against highly virulent strains, imperfect vaccination enables the spread of viral strains that would otherwise be too lethal to persist.
journals.plos.org journals.plos.org
 
madinsomniac said:
And once more… do you want a moderate, reasonable solution….

Release the damn vaccines made with old proven methods… there are already a half dozen in use or waiting approval… what in the **** is the hold up…

Ill go get a flu shot modified for the Covid… im pretty sure that isn’t going to give me any weird effects ten years from now…
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That will not help Pfizer or Moderna make billions, or help Merck re-jig and fast track Ivermectin-by-a -new-name.

Bankrupt slums in India have far less Covid than the US. Their problem was a flu-like virus, so they treated it accordingly.

In the US and much of the western world, words and descriptions, policies and mandates, bullshit and a "we are here to help" governmental lie have been used to funnel people across political lines into a very expensive, restrictive treatment modality that is completely out of synch with established medical safety protocols, treatment protocols and the foundations of western medicine.

The hugely inefficient military-industrial complex now has competition from the pharma-regulatory complex after a campaign of fear, censorship and division.
A generation ago, there were no WMDs. Now, there is no novel virus.

Sometime soon, the rest of the world will begin to laugh, pointing to the richer nations, easily aware that the "emperors have no clothes".

Cold war, oil shocks, terrorism, virus hysteria all have common denominators: less liberty for the average person, more economic power concentrated in the hands of fewer people.
 
Im not here to “win” a debate.. i just want a rational reasonable answer as to why they are pushing three versions of effectively the same vaccine treatment method and sitting on a wealth of others that would solve their confidence issues in the public and that historically have been proven better against variants and longer lasting that these new methods
 
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