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Covid Vaccine

In a world where vaccines work, cases/deaths drop. They don't increase.

Period. We had available therapeutics (that were not widely used and in many cases not even allowed to be prescribed - which people should go to jail for) and a vaccine shot in 2021, yet there were an increase in deaths. That's the bottom line. That's a travesty.
 
Right “also in” idiotic of you to say that. I take it you are now trying to say that you meant “SOME OF WHICH are also in”?
100% clear to those of us with a functioning cerebral cortex what was stated.
I broke it down into molecular data so you could attempt to extract the meaning.
Not the least bit amazed that you are still unable to piece it together.
 
Wrong.

In a world where vaccines work, cases/deaths drop. They don't increase.

Washington States cases and deaths have increased while massively vaccinated.

Shots. Say it with me. They are shots.
Wrong. Take the unvaccinated cases out and the cases drop dramatically. Prove otherwise.

“Shots” vs “vaccines” only exists in Steelernation.com Politics and Religion forum. Prove otherwise.
 
100% clear to those of us with a functioning cerebral cortex what was stated.
I broke it down into molecular data so you could attempt to extract the meaning.
Not the least bit amazed that you are still unable to piece it together.
“Molecular data”?
 
“Shots” vs “vaccines” only exists in Steelernation.com Politics and Religion forum. Prove otherwise.

Here you go (from the CDC):

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Says who? How many of the 174 current cases are even vaccinated? They could all be unvaccinated. You can’t conclude the vaccine is at fault.

Says science. Says the history of vaccines. You know how the polio vaccine got rid of...polio?

These vaccines are so effective that we (mankind) sit back and watch cases and deaths grow. Stupid people (you) call that highly effective. Rational people say....not effective at all.
 
Period. We had available therapeutics (that were not widely used and in many cases not even allowed to be prescribed - which people should go to jail for) and a vaccine shot in 2021, yet there were an increase in deaths. That's the bottom line. That's a travesty.
Because - DRUM ROLL - they are shots or highly ineffective vaccines.
 
Wrong. Take the unvaccinated cases out and the cases drop dramatically. Prove otherwise.

“Shots” vs “vaccines” only exists in Steelernation.com Politics and Religion forum. Prove otherwise.

Wrong. Vaccines prevent spread (these do not) AND death/serious illness (these do but only an an ever-increasing sliding scale).

These vaccines faily massively on preventing spread. They have dropped significantly in preventing serious illness. The need for boosters validates all of this...in addition to the CEOs of these companies saying they have waned, the CDC saying they no longer prevent spread, and hundreds of studies supporting the above.

95% became 87% became 81% became 74% became....

J&J's efficacy against spread now is 3%.

THREE...PERCENT.
 
So they just announced a new type of methodology for a Covid Vaccine in the uk


Note that this type stimulates t cells rather than b cells… it actually prevents infection… but despite this its going to have the full minimum of five years of clinical trials because its a novel methodology ( its already in them and wont be out until 2025…)

Most novel methodology vaccines took ten to twenty years to get approved before this… five was the minimum for a known methodology with new material.. but five gives you a basic idea of long term effects at least…
 
It's applied as a skin patch? Seriously Mad?
 
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It's applied as a skin patch? Seriously Mad?
Pitt was developing something similar early on. It's a bunch of tiny microneedles on a patch. The advantage is you don't need syringes or vials so it's cheaper to ship and easier to store. The size of a small bandaid. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is the same thing or not.
 
Pitt was developing something similar early on. It's a bunch of tiny microneedles on a patch. The advantage is you don't need syringes or vials so it's cheaper to ship and easier to store. The size of a small bandaid. Pretty cool. Not sure if this is the same thing or not.

Self-medicating for the win! Granny can now vax herself.

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This man is setting some of our US policy. You are a minion.

He is a communist.

Fauci Tells Ted Koppel — ‘Individual freedom is superseded by the State’​


Fauci with Ted Koppel — “There is a misplaced perception about people’s individual right to make a decision that supersedes the societal safety net.”



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Says science. Says the history of vaccines. You know how the polio vaccine got rid of...polio?

These vaccines are so effective that we (mankind) sit back and watch cases and deaths grow. Stupid people (you) call that highly effective. Rational people say....not effective at all.
Polio, you say? The Polio vaccine was only 90% effective after two doses and full vaccination was after four or five doses, and it took four decades before Polio was considered to be eradicated. There’s your science and history lesson for the day. Maybe we should call the Polio vaccine a “shot”?

Stop getting your information from social media, Tim.
 
Wrong. Vaccines prevent spread (these do not) AND death/serious illness (these do but only an an ever-increasing sliding scale).

These vaccines faily massively on preventing spread. They have dropped significantly in preventing serious illness. The need for boosters validates all of this...in addition to the CEOs of these companies saying they have waned, the CDC saying they no longer prevent spread, and hundreds of studies supporting the above.

95% became 87% became 81% became 74% became....

J&J's efficacy against spread now is 3%.

THREE...PERCENT.
Dropped significantly in preventing serious illness? LINK?

CDC says they no longer prevent spread? LINK?
 
Polio, you say? The Polio vaccine was only 90% effective after two doses and full vaccination was after four or five doses, and it took four decades before Polio was considered to be eradicated. There’s your science and history lesson for the day. Maybe we should call the Polio vaccine a “shot”?

Stop getting your information from social media, Tim.

You don't understand the history of the vaccine well then. Compare then v now.

Polio vaccines were tested from 1935-1963, nearly 30 years.
Covid vaccines were developed in less than 12 months.
There wasn't a global eradication program against polio until the 1980s.
There is a global Covid eradication program underway now. In less than a year from disease inception.

It wasn't until 1988 that the WHO called for the vaccines' use globally.

Both the Salk and Sabin polio vaccines "stopped" the spread of all strains of the polio virus. Stopped. All. Strains.
These Covid vaccines do not stop the spread of Covid, and perform worse against new strains.

Covid vaccines given to hundreds of millions of people overnight.
It took literally decades to distribute/administer polio vaccines.

If it weren't for apples and oranges existing, you'd have no comparisons to offer.
 
Dropped significantly in preventing serious illness? LINK?

CDC says they no longer prevent spread? LINK?

I'll give you the same standard reply I have before. The fact that you forget what's been posted and choose not to read it doesn't constitute work for me to repost it for you.

Go back. Links to validated information supporting both has been posted over and over and over and over and over again for you to read.

Since this was at my fingertips and you are a) lazy, b) stupid (don't remember what's been posted, c) ignorant (forget what you read, d) obtuse (ignore that which offends your bias), I'll provide this one tidbit again for yo lazy ***.

From the uber-Liberal LA Times


Summary:

Preventing Infections:
  • Moderna: 89% effective in March, fell to 58% effective by October 1
  • Pfizer: Fell 85% to 45%
  • J&J: Fell dramatically from 86% to 13% in 6 months
Preventing Death:
  • Moderna: By July, the vaxed were only 76% less likely to die of Covid than unvaxed
  • Pfizer: By July, the vaxed were only 70% less likely to die than the unvaxed
  • J&J: By July, the vaxed were 52% less likely to die than the unvaxed
Get that spin machine working Floggy.
 
Dropped significantly in preventing serious illness? LINK?

CDC says they no longer prevent spread? LINK?
Are you really this colossally ignorant? Do you not actually read the links posted by many on here from sources that should be beyond repute like the manufacturers themselves and various national and international health organizations? Come on man these facts have been spoon fed to you countless times yet you pretend to not have seen them?
 
Are you really this colossally ignorant? Do you not actually read the links posted by many on here from sources that should be beyond repute like the manufacturers themselves and various national and international health organizations? Come on man these facts have been spoon fed to you countless times yet you pretend to not have seen them?
 
I'll give you the same standard reply I have before. The fact that you forget what's been posted and choose not to read it doesn't constitute work for me to repost it for you.

Go back. Links to validated information supporting both has been posted over and over and over and over and over again for you to read.

Since this was at my fingertips and you are a) lazy, b) stupid (don't remember what's been posted, c) ignorant (forget what you read, d) obtuse (ignore that which offends your bias), I'll provide this one tidbit again for yo lazy ***.

From the uber-Liberal LA Times


Summary:

Preventing Infections:
  • Moderna: 89% effective in March, fell to 58% effective by October 1
  • Pfizer: Fell 85% to 45%
  • J&J: Fell dramatically from 86% to 13% in 6 months
Preventing Death:
  • Moderna: By July, the vaxed were only 76% less likely to die of Covid than unvaxed
  • Pfizer: By July, the vaxed were only 70% less likely to die than the unvaxed
  • J&J: By July, the vaxed were 52% less likely to die than the unvaxed
Get that spin machine working Floggy.
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Many of you have challenged that it is normal for people to just die, happens every day. This person is keeping a list of athletes from around the world who were vaxed then mysteriously died. Of course there is no proof nor cause for concern. This is all normal.

Each case is summarized with supporting links and videos.


Further links:
https://report24.news/ab-13-jahren-lange-liste-ploetzlich-verstorbener-oder-schwerkranker-sportler/ (use Google Translate on the site for the complete list)

Interesting historical list of soccer players who have died while playing. In 2021, so far, it's been 14. Previous high seems to be about 7 in a full year.
 
Many of you have challenged that it is normal for people to just die, happens every day. This person is keeping a list of athletes from around the world who were vaxed then mysteriously died. Of course there is no proof nor cause for concern. This is all normal.

Each case is summarized with supporting links and videos.


Further links:
https://report24.news/ab-13-jahren-lange-liste-ploetzlich-verstorbener-oder-schwerkranker-sportler/ (use Google Translate on the site for the complete list)

Interesting historical list of soccer players who have died while playing. In 2021, so far, it's been 14. Previous high seems to be about 7 in a full year.
OMG, merely a coinkydink! - Trog
 
I'll give you the same standard reply I have before. The fact that you forget what's been posted and choose not to read it doesn't constitute work for me to repost it for you.

Go back. Links to validated information supporting both has been posted over and over and over and over and over again for you to read.

Since this was at my fingertips and you are a) lazy, b) stupid (don't remember what's been posted, c) ignorant (forget what you read, d) obtuse (ignore that which offends your bias), I'll provide this one tidbit again for yo lazy ***.

From the uber-Liberal LA Times


Summary:

Preventing Infections:
  • Moderna: 89% effective in March, fell to 58% effective by October 1
  • Pfizer: Fell 85% to 45%
  • J&J: Fell dramatically from 86% to 13% in 6 months
Preventing Death:
  • Moderna: By July, the vaxed were only 76% less likely to die of Covid than unvaxed
  • Pfizer: By July, the vaxed were only 70% less likely to die than the unvaxed
  • J&J: By July, the vaxed were 52% less likely to die than the unvaxed
Get that spin machine working Floggy.
Spin is your apples and oranges comparison and cherry picking.

You use the percentages of veterans 65+ years of age. You conveniently ignore the 84%, 82% and 73% among younger veterans that are more similar in age to those in the in the clinical trials that produced the 90-95% efficacy.

No wonder you didn’t link the actual article.
 
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