LC and Jon Kolb were in that '69 draft as well. I remember being a caddy at Westmoreland Country Club and the uber wealthy from Squirrel Hill talking about this Greenwood kid being a steal.
Bears Turned Down by Steelers to Interview Tomlin
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They almost always are a lie
Maybe they should’ve listened to the Bears, I mean, they got a high 2nd round pick for Claypool…
Trade him for anything you can get, nothing here changes until he's out the door, this is worse than being a fan in the 80's
just speculating...
Tomlin wouldn't want to go to Chicago for every reason listed above. He'd inherit a team with a lot of work to be done. His best bet would be a team that has championship talent in place already. Looking around the league, there's not a lot of places where he'd be able to step in and find that.
Dallas has a franchise WR, a decent to bad QB and no run game. Defense is decent, but... facing the Eagles and Redskins twice per year isnt ideal. Add in that Jerry Jones meddles in the team on a daily basis, so there's oversight there. heavy-handed oversight.
Carolina has a QB they drafted first overall who showed some glimpse of that talent late, but ... not much else. Expectations wouldn't be too lofty immediately as the team has a lot of holes to fill.
Chicago. Turned down already.
New Orleans is in a state of flux. Carr is on the decline, Kamara is on his last legs and there's no talent to work with. Hard pass if you're Tomlin.
Jacksonville has a "franchise" QB, that Tomlin wouldn't be able to turn into a franchise QB, a decent run game with two or three RBs, a damn good rookie WR and a decent defense. They face Indy, Tennessee and Houston on a regular basis, which is quite a step down from the AFC North. Still... not a lot to work with but likely one of the best teams to move on to.
Las Vegas. Raiders would love to poach Tomlin to go with a young team with zero direction. But, for Tomlin, there's no QB, no RB, no WR and a decent defense. I don't see this happeninng, but Tomlin would likely have as much leeway to keep his job as he does here. Maybe a little less. But, Tomlin would also face KC, Denver and the Chargers twice. We know he rarely beats those teams. Hard pass, even if it's tempting.
So, unless Carolina or Jacksonville ante up... and Tomlin agrees to a trade ... we're stuck with his ineptitude for at least one more season. It might be that Tomlin was presented the offer to go to Chicago and declined it. Could be the same with the other "multiple teams" who called.
Indy, the Giants and Titans might be willing to trade for him next year.
Tomlin wouldn't want to go to Chicago for every reason listed above. He'd inherit a team with a lot of work to be done. His best bet would be a team that has championship talent in place already. Looking around the league, there's not a lot of places where he'd be able to step in and find that.
Dallas has a franchise WR, a decent to bad QB and no run game. Defense is decent, but... facing the Eagles and Redskins twice per year isnt ideal. Add in that Jerry Jones meddles in the team on a daily basis, so there's oversight there. heavy-handed oversight.
Carolina has a QB they drafted first overall who showed some glimpse of that talent late, but ... not much else. Expectations wouldn't be too lofty immediately as the team has a lot of holes to fill.
Chicago. Turned down already.
New Orleans is in a state of flux. Carr is on the decline, Kamara is on his last legs and there's no talent to work with. Hard pass if you're Tomlin.
Jacksonville has a "franchise" QB, that Tomlin wouldn't be able to turn into a franchise QB, a decent run game with two or three RBs, a damn good rookie WR and a decent defense. They face Indy, Tennessee and Houston on a regular basis, which is quite a step down from the AFC North. Still... not a lot to work with but likely one of the best teams to move on to.
Las Vegas. Raiders would love to poach Tomlin to go with a young team with zero direction. But, for Tomlin, there's no QB, no RB, no WR and a decent defense. I don't see this happeninng, but Tomlin would likely have as much leeway to keep his job as he does here. Maybe a little less. But, Tomlin would also face KC, Denver and the Chargers twice. We know he rarely beats those teams. Hard pass, even if it's tempting.
So, unless Carolina or Jacksonville ante up... and Tomlin agrees to a trade ... we're stuck with his ineptitude for at least one more season. It might be that Tomlin was presented the offer to go to Chicago and declined it. Could be the same with the other "multiple teams" who called.
Indy, the Giants and Titans might be willing to trade for him next year.
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In today’s Post-Gazette, Joe Starkey was critical of Rooney for not entertaining the idea of trading Tomlin.
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Supe, I think that’s lot of why he wanted the no trade clause.
Tomlin it appears does not know how to build a championship caliber team.
He’s very comfortable here and knows he has more security than any other team in the league.
There are zero scenarios out there where a team is looking for a HC only one year removed from a world championship. Ain’t happening! Tomlin fell into literally a pot of gold and he damn well knows it.
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Definitely take Carolina off the potential list
Have an offensive minded coach which is what Tepper wants, not an offensive midget like Tomlin
Also no way would Tomlin even contemplate going somewhere without a ready made roster and no way would he consider going somewhere where the owner cans coaches after a handful of games.
The last spot he’d go is Carolina
I’d even go as far to say that Carolina with Canales is closer to a playoff victory than the Steelers are with Tomlin…sad, very sad
Boy, Claypool ended up being a real piece of ---- didn't he? A Colbert pick when we needed our 2nd rounder to be great. He just turned out to be a lazy bum.
yes , you loved the **** out of him Captain Kegels. Talk about nut hugging.
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We've been in a holding pattern for 10 years. The defensive side of the ball drives me bonkers. So much talent, so very little creativity to use it. They change nothing. Ever. Well, other than morphing into this passive prevent zone garbage.
Spend most of your money on defense and it looks like trash by mid-season every year.
Everything Fraudlin touches turns into the same thing eventually, always.
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The Bears probably got the better end of the deal. Ben Johnson gets modern football:
“It’s clear that modern football in the NFL is quarterback-driven,” said Johnson, who coached journeyman Jared Goff into the NFL’s leader in passing yards and touchdowns over the past three seasons. “That is no secret. You can look at analytics right now, quarterback success is a higher predictor of winning and losing than turnover ratio, which has been for 20 plus years. O.K., that’s changed.”
“It’s clear that modern football in the NFL is quarterback-driven,” said Johnson, who coached journeyman Jared Goff into the NFL’s leader in passing yards and touchdowns over the past three seasons. “That is no secret. You can look at analytics right now, quarterback success is a higher predictor of winning and losing than turnover ratio, which has been for 20 plus years. O.K., that’s changed.”
I do have to remind people that Rooneys were resolute in staying with Pickett, fueling speculation that there was no way they'd consider trading him and then somehow, that all changed into Kenny taking a ticket out of Pgh practically overnight. I believe Art was quoted as saying "We think Kenny can still get it done." And then that all changed once Russ was available. So, things can change even when it sounds like Art has no interest in it. Of course, it took Russ coming in for pennies on the dollar, Art likes cheap deals. Make no mistake, that deal happened because Art couldn't pass getting Russ in for so cheap.
and since you have this desire to post we have to remind people that you were resolute in saying Troys head was too big and he was a bust. Fair is fair.
For me the draft is just a breakaway from the suck. It is an unknown until the known comes.
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Yes, it is the dream of what could be…
Until the sorry prospect has the misfortune of getting that phone call from Mike.
I want Desmond Watson from FL
Bring him in on short yardage both sides of the ball
Nothing like watching a fat man “run”. Weighing in at over 400 lbs let’s make watching the games fun how we can.
In a seriousness dude was a wrecking ball vs highly rated OL prospects and could just be that short yardage FB we need.
I’ve seen him rated pretty low as a prospect…if he’s around later in the draft no way I wouldn’t take a flyer on him.