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Ben to IR, out for season
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Second time I've missed Ben. **** that is bad luck. KC a couple years ago. Landry Jones first start. San Fran this weekend. Better whole season then five weeks. Nothing lasts forever. If Mason is a baller Ben is probably done
If he sucks and Ben rehabs we may see him again.
If he sucks and Ben rehabs we may see him again.
He's pissed away an 11 year window of free passes. Now the final Cowher player is on IR. This shitshow is 100% Tomlin's mess. Enough is enough. BTW, they're 7 point underdogs to the freaking 49ers. Ben or no Ben, that's embarrassing. **** all the coaches. The Steelers had a chance to fire these bums and upgrade with Munchak. This whole organization has **** the bed.
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You never know. Years from now,sitting in your rocking chair,sipping your bourbon,you might be telling anyone that listens that you saw the first start of 5 time winning super bowl,hall of fame QB Mason Rudolf's career.
Here's to hoping. Cheers
They'd have to make the call by the third day after the new league year. Retirement or “amicable parting” within those 3 days would generate 8.5m in cap space I believe. His hit is 33.5m next year. If the giant roster bonus doesn’t guarantee because of injury(seems possible it would) it’s fault easy to move onto Rudolph if he plays well.
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Some people will see LBs cover #1 WRs all day for years and still think he's a good coach. Boggles the mind.
So Ben being hurt should now fix the defense. Tomlins had years and years to do something and he does nothing with 1st round talent all over the defense.
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Ben is a generational type talent and we have been lucky to have him. That being said he just hasnt had the fire then last few years. No emotion.
Love the guy but maybe this is for the best. We get a chance to see if Rudolph can do it.
Love the guy but maybe this is for the best. We get a chance to see if Rudolph can do it.
now place Mongrief on IR or PUP and bring in Tevin Jones
How did he put up career numbers last year without emotion? I mean you have to have a lot of emotion to be really good, right?
We need a QB that will do celebrations with the WRs or RBs when they score, yell and go crazy when they throw a TD pass, I think Mason will provide us that.. if he does, we should be on our way to a SB.
Ben has thrown 363 TD passes.. forgive him if he doesn't go crazy when he throws a 10 yard TD in a regular season game.
He doesn't need to cheerlead to win, besides we have a cheerleader on the sideline wearing a headset.
MT... never coached a losing season. A successful win percentage. 2 Super Bowl appearances. Built-up the most prolific Steelers offense in franchise history at the height of the killer Bs.
Yet...
Pete Carroll on the hot seat? Sean Peyton on the hot seat?
Those teams are in the Super Bowl year in and year out. They've missed multiple playoffs. They've had troubling situations... but Tomlin is supposed to be fired and has some how destroyed the Steeler franchise???
Big Ben going to IR could be a good thing for Ben long term because he could actually benefit from sitting out and studying the opponents from a different vantage point. He isn't going to be taking hits so his body can just rest and possibly make a "comeback player of the year" type season next year. All the while Mason getting the real deal game experience barring any injuries. I see a win-win long term.
For the players the pressure n of expectations are all but removed. Now just go out and ball. Mason has a vibe with Washington and once they get a few games together it should really open up the run game. Color me optimistic
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Yet...
Pete Carroll on the hot seat? Sean Peyton on the hot seat?
Those teams are in the Super Bowl year in and year out. They've missed multiple playoffs. They've had troubling situations... but Tomlin is supposed to be fired and has some how destroyed the Steeler franchise???
Big Ben going to IR could be a good thing for Ben long term because he could actually benefit from sitting out and studying the opponents from a different vantage point. He isn't going to be taking hits so his body can just rest and possibly make a "comeback player of the year" type season next year. All the while Mason getting the real deal game experience barring any injuries. I see a win-win long term.
For the players the pressure n of expectations are all but removed. Now just go out and ball. Mason has a vibe with Washington and once they get a few games together it should really open up the run game. Color me optimistic
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you answered your own question/statement.....the most prolific offense in steelers history, but yet cant win playoff games/SBs?! Take it on the chin against Tim ******* teabow, get smashed by the Jax with a trash can of a QB,.....isnt the HC a defense minded person based on his past? Why has the Def been horrible year after year when spending top picks year after year on that side of the ball. Obviously we are tired
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I love the guy . I really do. I remember what it was like in the years between Bradshaw and ben. I am just saying that maybe this isnt the worst situation. At least we get to see if Rudolph could be that guy
It depends, if you want a chance to make a run then it's not a good situation. If you're fine with seeing what Rudolph has so you can possibly draft another QB then it's not a bad situation.
I wanted to win another SB before Ben hangs it up so I'm really bummed. Ben can still play, I just hope he comes back 100 percent next year.
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To me this is the best scenario other than a healthy ben.
Rudolph has 14 games to prove he is the next guy.
We should know by seasons end on if we have the next franchise qb or if we still have to draft one
Those things happen in the NFL... the Steelers aren't an anomaly. Rams and Chiefs had league leading offenses and respectable defenses last season. Neither team won the Super Bowl.
The team has been above average and had their share of elite fire power. Each season has had its story. In your "Tim Tebow" playoff lose how important is it not having your starting Free Safety? That alone could have been the difference/factor. Your expectation is that the Steelers should blow out every team the doesn't have a HOF QB. So they aren't meeting your expectations so MT is a total bust and failure and isn't a good coach. While people actually in the league with experience echo that MT has down a more than respectible job in his career.
Criticism is a given including the judgement of lack of the Steelers defensive quality. How many teams are dominant on both sides of the ball for a long period of time? It's usually one or the other, but very rare is a team both. Maybe for a season or two. That doesn't mean MT should just be fired.
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And what Tomlin now is smarter able to coach since Ben is on IR,Steeler fans do you remember the Brister days, Malone days, Maddox days, . We all are for Randolph , good kid has worked hard but the ones still blinded by Tomlin coaching ability will get a chance to see how he coaches under this scenario
Wow! I just can't believe the people on here ragging on Ben. He didn't have it any more. No fire. Blah, blah, blah! You all do ******* know he is the reason we were as good as we were, especially under Tomlin. He has carried this team on his ******* back. I think we might have found something in Rudolph, at least I hope we did but most people on here didn't want him either when we picked him last year and said he was a bust last year. So, get off your high horses. Ben has been the MVP of this team since he came into the league including last year and the last few years. Without Ben, we don't sniff .500 the last 5 years even with AB and Bell. If Rudolph doesn't pan out, it could take 20+ years to find another Ben, just like when Bradshaw retired.
I’ll settle for competent
I fully expect Ben to be back playing at a high level next season and we go on another SB run. Now, unfortunately it’s only the beginning of this season. It’s going to be a longgg season and offseason.
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No QB is taking this team anywhere with our current coaching, especially on D.
Did you see Wilson's stats? Mind-blowing.
Did you see their rushing stats? We got gashed.
There's not one thing this D can do well to secure a victory and I'm not blaming the players when their assignments and game plan in general is so retarded.
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They won playoff games and one went to the SB. WTF are you talking about? We're talking about a great offense with a HOF QB, great RB, great WR and a dominant OL. Plus you have a defense stuffed with 1st and 2nd rounders. Tomlin is the issue. How can you not make the playoffs with that lineup? The Rams made the SB and the Chiefs would have if not for a cheating Pats*** team. The Steelers didn't make the playoffs and have only won 3 playoff games in 8 years. And in those 3 playoff games they won 2 of them against backup QBs. One was a gift from the bungles. So please stop with the excuses. It's not good enough. There are only a handful of good QBs and teams that can win every year. The Steelers have had the talent but not the coaching.
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Get well soon Ben. Don't rush your recovery.
We are going to see at most 5 wins this season. The issue is as Ron Burgundy said today on the Book of Face the difference between now and 2004 is we don't have Bettis and a lights out defense.
We are going to see at most 5 wins this season. The issue is as Ron Burgundy said today on the Book of Face the difference between now and 2004 is we don't have Bettis and a lights out defense.