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Brady retiring

GILBERT said:
Ummm. Kinda disagree. They were caught cheating in the SB the same year they beat us in AFCC. 2002?, I believe multiple players have sighted NE knew plays in the 2005 AFCC.
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Ok. Please post your proof that they cheated to beat us in 2002.

Also, regarding your 2005 claim, could you give the names of these "multiple players" and quote their exact statements? Thanks.
 
I'm not sure why Ben cannot be first ballot. Doesn't that mean he is elected in his first eligible year? They can and should both be elected on that year I agree though that Ben will get badly overshadowed.
 
jiminoh said:
Wonder if Aaron Rodgers goes next? I hope Ben doesn't get **** upon.
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Brady going in likely won't affect Ben, but if Rodgers ends up calling it career now as well, Ben might have to wait a year.

It should not matter, but given the voters' history, they might not want to put three QBs in at once, and you know Brady and Rodgers would go first.
 
For all those insisting Ben is a lock for a 1st ballot nomination, I hope the #metoo climate cools a bit before 2027, otherwise it could be a tough sell.
 
Punxsutawney said:
Brady going in likely won't affect Ben, but if Rodgers ends up calling it career now as well, Ben might have to wait a year.

It should not matter, but given the voters' history, they might not want to put three QBs in at once, and you know Brady and Rodgers would go first.
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My thoughts as well.
 
Slovan Sam said:
There's no proof that they ever had to cheat to beat us. Brady spent his career beating us and as a result some fans coping mechanism is to fabricate alternate realities.
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Incorrect… when former rb coach Dick hoak retired he told a story about getting tapes from belicheck back when they still shared vhs gamefilm across teams and they found a tape of the other team’s practice… he said the Rooneys mailed it back to him with a sarcastic note.

Multiple former nfl players talked about there taping of practice and cataloging signs … the cover up was specifically
Drink IRON City said:
YOU mean ernie adams and their CHEATING ******* WAYS, why anyone gives this cheating ******* any credit for his CHEATING acomplishments and favortism from the NFL is absolutely insane. Call him what you want but also add in convicted cheater.




Salute the nation
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Tom Bradys last decade has been gift wrapped by his blatent use of designer PEDs … …enough people have alluded to it, and TB12 is an obvious scam literally perpetrated by a con artist that has a history of junk fake health scams… and one that had alleged ties to high end peds…

You cant nutrition your way to adding arm strength after 35… this has been debunked repeatedly despite Bwadys claims to the contrary

He is a cheating **** and i hope he gets what he deserves down the line…
 
Slovan Sam said:
Ok. Please post your proof that they cheated to beat us in 2002.

Also, regarding your 2005 claim, could you give the names of these "multiple players" and quote their exact statements? Thanks.
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I'm not a lawyer. We were a 10+ point fav in AFCC and lost. We had a decent O and could not do anything. Ok we were **** that day. Then they hold 'the greatest show on turf' (I believe they were also a 10+ fav) to 17 points in SB. The game they got caught. I have not have heard any rumours on this year.

2005 - I believe Hines Ward and Rodney Harrison said they knew what what was coming in that game.
 
Slovan Sam said:
As Shannon Sharpe pointed out recently, and Tom Brady aside, Ben isn't a guarantee for a 1st ballot anyway now that the committee is allowed to consider a player's off the field behavior.
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And im sure they will consider that the first case was never ever anything but an allegation and tge second was exposed thoroughly as a concoction to pay him back for throwing a sorority sister out of his birthday party… i mean the stupid girls posted whatcthey were doing on Facebook then tried to take it down when the cops got involved ….
 
madinsomniac said:
Incorrect… when former rb coach Dick hoak retired he told a story about getting tapes from belicheck back when they still shared vhs gamefilm across teams and they found a tape of the other team’s practice… he said the Rooneys mailed it back to him with a sarcastic note.

Multiple former nfl players talked about there taping of practice and cataloging signs … the cover up was specifically
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Oh. I see. So some retired guy told a story and as a result this is your proof that Brady and the Pats had to cheat to beat a team lead by Coach Tomlin? Sure ..

Could you cite the names of these "multiple, former NFL players"? Also, where could I read up on their sworn testimony? Thanks.
 
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madinsomniac said:
Tom Bradys last decade has been gift wrapped by his blatent use of designer PEDs … …enough people have alluded to it, and TB12 is an obvious scam literally perpetrated by a con artist that has a history of junk fake health scams… and one that had alleged ties to high end peds…

You cant nutrition your way to adding arm strength after 35… this has been debunked repeatedly despite Bwadys claims to the contrary

He is a cheating **** and i hope he gets what he deserves down the line…
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madinsomniac

Could you provide the names of these "enough people who have alluded to it"? Also, could you provide a link where I can read up on how the NFL investigated and reached the conclusion that it was more probable than not that TB used PEDs? Thanks again for providing these citations.
 
Slovan Sam said:
Ok. Please post your proof that they cheated to beat us in 2002.

Also, regarding your 2005 claim, could you give the names of these "multiple players" and quote their exact statements? Thanks.
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What's this "us" ****, Shortbus Bob? You got a mouse in your pocket?
 
Slovan Sam said:
Ok. Please post your proof that they cheated to beat us in 2002.

Also, regarding your 2005 claim, could you give the names of these "multiple players" and quote their exact statements? Thanks.
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They cheated and were caught over and over and over again. They were fined and draft picks were taken away. Tapes destroyed. Forever cheating transforming twatwaffles! **** lady, **** bill-acheat and **** all you hiding *** cheatriot fans with DIC's jumbo blender morphing red hot poker! Now let's celebrate that twatwaffle leaving the NFL!
 
GILBERT said:
I'm not a lawyer. We were a 10+ point fav in AFCC and lost. We had a decent O and could not do anything. Ok we were **** that day. Then they hold 'the greatest show on turf' (I believe they were also a 10+ fav) to 17 points in SB. The game they got caught. I have not have heard any rumours on this year.

2005 - I believe Hines Ward and Rodney Harrison said they knew what what was coming in that game.
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Gilbert

When a team is favored to win a game and doesn't, is it commonplace for you to reach the conclusion that they must have cheated?

Can you provide a legal transcript where Ward and Harrison testified to this?
 
slashsteel said:
They cheated and were caught over and over and over again. They were fined and draft picks were taken away. Tapes destroyed. Forever cheating transforming twatwaffles! **** lady, **** bill-acheat and **** all you hiding *** cheatriot fans with DIC's jumbo blender morphing red hot poker! Now let's celebrate that twatwaffle leaving the NFL!
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Anyone wonder (despite Brady leaving) that they became mediocre after the cincy incident. I believe that was the last straw.
 
GILBERT said:
Anyone wonder (despite Brady leaving) that they became mediocre after the cincy incident. I believe that was the last straw.
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Their photographic memory decided to retire. Ol Ernie rode off into the sunset. One more to go!
 
Slovan Sam said:
As Shannon Sharpe pointed out recently, and Tom Brady aside, Ben isn't a guarantee for a 1st ballot anyway now that the committee is allowed to consider a player's off the field behavior.
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Well, if that's the case, I wonder if the committee will consider Deflate Gate and a few of the unsavory details from Brady's life.
 
Slovan Sam said:
Oh. I see. So some retired guy told a story and as a result this is your proof that Brady and the Pats had to cheat to beat a team lead by Coach Tomlin? Sure ..

Could you cite the names of these "multiple, former NFL players"? Also, where could I read up on their sworn testimony? Thanks.
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You asked him about 2002 and 2005. Tomlin wasn't the coach then. But, I'm sure you knew that.
 
SteelBuckeye said:
Well, if that's the case, I wonder if the committee will consider Deflate Gate and a few of the unsavory details from Brady's life.
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Just a few? I can't count how many incidents they had. I wish we could play that tape right now, it would eye open all the cheat fans and make them cry on their pillow.
 
GILBERT said:
Anyone wonder (despite Brady leaving) that they became mediocre after the cincy incident. I believe that was the last straw.
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I think "despite Brady leaving" pretty much ended this conspiracy theory that you're trying to peddle.
 
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