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Brady retiring

I guess the question to ask is are the Bucs cheaters too?

Because TB joined a team thst was dogshit and won the SB in his first year
 
GI Steeler said:
I guess the question to ask is are the Bucs cheaters too?

Because TB joined a team thst was dogshit and won the SB in his first year
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Better yet what exactly is being covered up year in and year out
 
slashsteel said:
Oh they said things. But what were they going to do ultimately? Goodell made those owners good money I am sure their pockets being full eased their upset. Nothing to buy as the chapter is semi complete. Until someone comes forward and reveals more. Regardless our NFL will be a healthier version. And that is something to be stoked about. I will be going out to dinner soon for lady leaving. And once bill-acheat is gone another dinner and a.toast!
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As you say, when billicheat is gone then the trifecta will be complete. I'll send money so you can take the O'l girl out to dinner and celebrate,
provided you dance to the music !!!





Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
As you say, when billicheat is gone then the trifecta will be comlete. I'll send money so you can take the O'l girl out to dinner and celebrate,
provided you dance to the music !!!





Salute the nation
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That’s if it all comes crashing when bellichek leaves. How long will the nfl try to promote as competition? WWE finally fessed up after so many years
 
MTC said:
If Goodell had to destroy the tapes for fear of the league folding, and if Brady continued to win after getting caught then there is something else or it is what it is. He won.

Same with belichek. How much did they cheat. They continued to win post spygate. The other 31 teams didn’t say anything then. If they got caught, one of these teams would’ve raised suspicions on why they kept winning after getting caught.
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That tape stuff was just to appease the masses. They actually ramped it up the following undefeated year. Those halftime adjustments are just amazing then. Always in exactly the right place on defense, which is the real tell all of this, much more than Brady and Co exploiting everyone constantly. As if to prove their innocents by annihilation, but really proved their guilt.

I've been over this so many times in the past. I'm not even going through it again.

I past the point of giving a **** a long time ago. Brady is a great qb who put a lot of work in. He's super football smart,has killer instinct, a great arm, balls on accurate and wants to win above all else.


But they cheated the **** out of many teams for a long long time and didn't care. Hell they rubbed it in. So in that ,the entirety of their dynasty is bullshit. I was more than 100% convinced of that a long time ago.

Played straight up they may have managed a superbowl or 3 appearance. They squeeked by on field goals in most because they couldn't use their system. Nobody is going to the superbowl 50% of the time like them. The biggest key other than stealing or buying playbooks is bugging and radio intercept. If you put in the brilliant mind of Ernie Adams you have one hell of a set up.

what I'm most pissed off about is when our coaches knew, they did nothing to counter these people. Zero changes when they other team knew your **** better than you did, calling it out on the field. Always in the perfect place 90% of the time all the time.

I've watched a lot of great defenses over the years and there's ain't a damn one of them always guessing right all of the time always for roughly about 20 years.

They have do many outlier red flags over a long time it's impossible for it to be genuine. Probably like hitting the lottery everyday for a month.

This goes without mentioning the interference the calls and non calls they always got. If you had the cat in the bag, you'd get what you wanted too. .

All started around 2001. I remember Billicheat flipping the **** out when one of the Steelers trainers ran out to help an injured pat*** as if he was not wanting to let him get close to the player. Now this is only a guess, but I think at that time they had wired up certain players to catch offensive and defensive signals. .That stuck out to me and looked really odd and fishy. That was right before the jets got sick of the bullshit and people started dropping dime on them.

They created one hell of an intelligence catalog on teams. Our Steelers never change ******* **** ,so it was really easy for them to exploit the **** out of them offensively and defensively. It used to piss me off so bad,but no we can't have any change of tactics here, we will do the same **** or else.

It would be like the Steelers playing against themselves knowing all of the calls and plays. If you threw in the prospective of radio signal intercept you will build a full profile of every team pretty quick.





Anyway, this is my hypothesis, some of it is filled in and other things have been stated by teams playing them over the years.

I have a long memory...haha.

The pats****** are bullshit!
 
I would like to know how many owners are actually in on it.

All of them?
The majority?
A few?

What are Krafts connections that allow him to get away with so much?
 
I think Brady is great.

But I also think there could be some WWE **** going on in NFL
 
Steelr4evr said:
That tape stuff was just to appease the masses. They actually ramped it up the following undefeated year. Those halftime adjustments are just amazing then. Always in exactly the right place on defense, which is the real tell all of this, much more than Brady and Co exploiting everyone constantly. As if to prove their innocents by annihilation, but really proved their guilt.

I've been over this so many times in the past. I'm not even going through it again.

I past the point of giving a **** a long time ago. Brady is a great qb who put a lot of work in. He's super football smart,has killer instinct, a great arm, balls on accurate and wants to win above all else.


But they cheated the **** out of many teams for a long long time and didn't care. Hell they rubbed it in. So in that ,the entirety of their dynasty is bullshit. I was more than 100% convinced of that a long time ago.

Played straight up they may have managed a superbowl or 3 appearance. They squeeked by on field goals in most because they couldn't use their system. Nobody is going to the superbowl 50% of the time like them. The biggest key other than stealing or buying playbooks is bugging and radio intercept. If you put in the brilliant mind of Ernie Adams you have one hell of a set up.

what I'm most pissed off about is when our coaches knew, they did nothing to counter these people. Zero changes when they other team knew your **** better than you did, calling it out on the field. Always in the perfect place 90% of the time all the time.

I've watched a lot of great defenses over the years and there's ain't a damn one of them always guessing right all of the time always for roughly about 20 years.

They have do many outlier red flags over a long time it's impossible for it to be genuine. Probably like hitting the lottery everyday for a month.

This goes without mentioning the interference the calls and non calls they always got. If you had the cat in the bag, you'd get what you wanted too. .

All started around 2001. I remember Billicheat flipping the **** out when one of the Steelers trainers ran out to help an injured pat*** as if he was not wanting to let him get close to the player. Now this is only a guess, but I think at that time they had wired up certain players to catch offensive and defensive signals. .That stuck out to me and looked really odd and fishy. That was right before the jets got sick of the bullshit and people started dropping dime on them.

They created one hell of an intelligence catalog on teams. Our Steelers never change ******* **** ,so it was really easy for them to exploit the **** out of them offensively and defensively. It used to piss me off so bad,but no we can't have any change of tactics here, we will do the same **** or else.

It would be like the Steelers playing against themselves knowing all of the calls and plays. If you threw in the prospective of radio signal intercept you will build a full profile of every team pretty quick.





Anyway, this is my hypothesis, some of it is filled in and other things have been stated by teams playing them over the years.

I have a long memory...haha.

The pats****** are bullshit!
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I’m just looking forward to someone coming out saying it’s wwe
 
GI Steeler said:
I think Brady is great.

But I also think there could be some WWE **** going on in NFL
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With that much marketing and money involved there is influence. The nba got caught.

All pro sports leagues have it to a degree imo.
 
Steelr4evr said:
That tape stuff was just to appease the masses. They actually ramped it up the following undefeated year. Those halftime adjustments are just amazing then. Always in exactly the right place on defense, which is the real tell all of this, much more than Brady and Co exploiting everyone constantly. As if to prove their innocents by annihilation, but really proved their guilt.

I've been over this so many times in the past. I'm not even going through it again.

I past the point of giving a **** a long time ago. Brady is a great qb who put a lot of work in. He's super football smart,has killer instinct, a great arm, balls on accurate and wants to win above all else.


But they cheated the **** out of many teams for a long long time and didn't care. Hell they rubbed it in. So in that ,the entirety of their dynasty is bullshit. I was more than 100% convinced of that a long time ago.

Played straight up they may have managed a superbowl or 3 appearance. They squeeked by on field goals in most because they couldn't use their system. Nobody is going to the superbowl 50% of the time like them. The biggest key other than stealing or buying playbooks is bugging and radio intercept. If you put in the brilliant mind of Ernie Adams you have one hell of a set up.

what I'm most pissed off about is when our coaches knew, they did nothing to counter these people. Zero changes when they other team knew your **** better than you did, calling it out on the field. Always in the perfect place 90% of the time all the time.

I've watched a lot of great defenses over the years and there's ain't a damn one of them always guessing right all of the time always for roughly about 20 years.

They have do many outlier red flags over a long time it's impossible for it to be genuine. Probably like hitting the lottery everyday for a month.

This goes without mentioning the interference the calls and non calls they always got. If you had the cat in the bag, you'd get what you wanted too. .

All started around 2001. I remember Billicheat flipping the **** out when one of the Steelers trainers ran out to help an injured pat*** as if he was not wanting to let him get close to the player. Now this is only a guess, but I think at that time they had wired up certain players to catch offensive and defensive signals. .That stuck out to me and looked really odd and fishy. That was right before the jets got sick of the bullshit and people started dropping dime on them.

They created one hell of an intelligence catalog on teams. Our Steelers never change ******* **** ,so it was really easy for them to exploit the **** out of them offensively and defensively. It used to piss me off so bad,but no we can't have any change of tactics here, we will do the same **** or else.

It would be like the Steelers playing against themselves knowing all of the calls and plays. If you threw in the prospective of radio signal intercept you will build a full profile of every team pretty quick.





Anyway, this is my hypothesis, some of it is filled in and other things have been stated by teams playing them over the years.

I have a long memory...haha.

The pats****** are bullshit!
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EXCELLENT POST and thanks for all your great ones along the way.



Where do I send the FREE RED HOT POKER ?




Salute the nation
 
MTC said:
I would like to know how many owners are actually in on it.

All of them?
The majority?
A few?

What are Krafts connections that allow him to get away with so much?
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CABLE TV contracts and not small ones. All part of the TV deal




Salute the nation
 
Steelr4evr said:
what I'm most pissed off about is when our coaches knew, they did nothing to counter these people. Zero changes when they other team knew your **** better than you did, calling it out on the field. Always in the perfect place 90% of the time all the time.
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Can you post your source which corroborates your claim that our coaches knew that the Pats were cheating? Thanks
 
Steelr4evr said:
All started around 2001. I remember Billicheat flipping the **** out when one of the Steelers trainers ran out to help an injured pat*** as if he was not wanting to let him get close to the player. Now this is only a guess,
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Much like 99.9% of the unproven accusations in this thread.
 
GI Steeler said:
I guess the question to ask is are the Bucs cheaters too?

Because TB joined a team thst was dogshit and won the SB in his first year
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Arians is a top tier head coach. He doesn't need cheating to give him an edge. What you saw was a good QB going to a great team. They stocked that team with talent. Brady was always capable of SB victories with the right supporting cast. But to win as much as he did with the cheats took a lot of extra help. The kind of help that puts you in a position to win a lot more than you would have without it. The Bucs weren't a dog **** team they had many attractive attributes. Good coaching, good defense, good WRs, good Oline. In comes the icing on the cake a competitive QB and RB. More important a HC that knew how to squeeze the most out of them.
 
Can you bet on the next Tampa QB leading the NFL in INTs? Brady was able to temper Arians overaggressive instincts. The next QB will probably be a turnover machine but it could be great for fantasy values of Evans and Godwin
 
Slovan Sam said:
Much like 99.9% of the unproven accusations in this thread.
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You were told plenty of facts troll you just chose to ignore each and every one of them. Deny all you want but all the times they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar paints a different story. You aren't a Steeler fan you can quit the charade. You will probably be running back to the cheatriot board bragging about how great you trolled the board. Which in reality is the same regurgitated dumb **** that cheatriot fans have thrown out since spygate. You aren't original, or cute. You aren't riling anyone up or doing anything but spitballing horseshit. Your approach is tarded at best. Your idiotic drivel could be upstaged by a **** slinging monkey. Now go twatwaffle on your time.
 
MTC said:
And that’s my point. They were caught and if repeatedly caught then nfl should’ve done something. Better yet, if this was repeated why didn’t the 31 teams collectively do anything.

All these stories seemed to surface before big games. That there raises suspicions why the the other nfl teams didn’t do anything collectively if it was repeated.


Caught once, sure. Slap on the wrist. Repeatedly? I’m not buying it. I fail to believe these owners would let repeated mistakes fly unless these owners are in on it too
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MTC said:
In all technicality the franchises are independent companies. Goodell works for 32 separate owners.


To protect integrity. They can and should’ve spoke up. They could’ve expresses low approval with Goodell and possibly remove him. However like Coolie said. Money.


At that too much money is involved
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DeflateGate was just that (owners speaking up, just not to the media), internally the majority of the elder owners pressured Goodell to come down hard on Kraft/Belichick after his fumbling of Spygate. They were extremely angry as to how Goodell actions (to protect his BFF Kraft) caused Congress to question the league itself possibly covering up Spygate and threatened to challenge the NFL’s Anti-Trust exemption. Senator Spector going so far as to requesting an investigation into why Goodell did what he did. That really moved the old guard owners to tell Goodell to conduct an investigation withOUT his involvement (Warren Report) and sack heavily those involved.

The evidence showed tampering from Marcia by covertly compensating two Patriot employees into making balls easier to hold. Since NE wouldn’t allow the two individuals to be interviewed and later terminated their employment (then later rehired), Marcia was held out to dry to prove his innocence. Fines to Brady/Kraft and suspension to Brady (the Golden Boy Goodell created) was a form of message to the Commish, we put you there, we can remove you. Kraft cried Mary and blamed unfair presentation, but after the Warren Report, was privately told by several owners to “shut up and take it” or Congress would conduct an even more detailed investigation retro back to Spygate since his franchise was a repeat offender.
 
MTC said:
And that’s my point. They were caught and if repeatedly caught then nfl should’ve done something. Better yet, if this was repeated why didn’t the 31 teams collectively do anything.

All these stories seemed to surface before big games. That there raises suspicions why the the other nfl teams didn’t do anything collectively if it was repeated.


Caught once, sure. Slap on the wrist. Repeatedly? I’m not buying it. I fail to believe these owners would let repeated mistakes fly unless these owners are in on it too
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Killing the golden goose and all that
 
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