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Brock Purdy and the 49ers

Steelmann said:
Interesting comments. “ he’s shown little to nothing “. Not that I’m an expert on Lance. Didn’t know you were. Especially since you write him off after he started 2 games in his rookie year.

And one game the past season before being injured in his second game after one quarter.

His rookie year he replaced jimmy g during a game for his first action. 9-18 157 yds 2td 0 int. 41 yds running

Then started his first game. 15-29 0 TD 1 int. 89 yards running.

Then injured. Did not play for 10 weeks.
First game back went 16-23 249 yards 2 TD 1 int. 31 yds running.

Jimmy G then came back after his injury for the rest of the year.

So he’s appeared in limited parts of 6 whole games.

Yet you are ready to write him off. It’s funny considering we certainly preach patience with our own #1 QB.
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It is a combination of being a raw prospect, to showing little in his game when did start. Then you add in injuries. Not a lot for a team to go on to warrant throwing a first round offer his way.

Not an expert but I studied him before he was drafted and monitored his progress. Guess that is good enough for an opinion on the matter. I could always be wrong sure, sure isn't tilting that way though.

Also not showing confidence in his value and writing him off is two different monsters.
 
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Sure ,everyone has an opinion. I just choose to base mine on more than starting 3 games. He wasn’t rushed back from injury because they had Jimmy G. I would think. Especially in his first year. Obviously.
 
FordFairLane said:
What do they do with Trey Lance? Purdy threw for 332 and 3 touchdowns with no picks in a playoff game. They might have gotten the steal of the draft. Makes me wonder if Lance doesn’t hit the trading block this offseason.
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He was probably already done there…but he could have a fine career elsewhere… again mNy qbs need three or more years to really get the pro game and also again there is no guarantee that purdy wont suck out loud next year… there are quarterbacks that have magnificent rookie debuts or spectacular sophomore seasons then literally never replicate that level again


Its a crappy situation in SF because Jimmy G is absolutely gone after the season, lance is due 20 million dollars total over the next two years, which is pricey for an unproven backup, and purdy is a complete unknown playing in an extremely qb friendly situation with a superb run game, playmaking stud wr, and great D…

The thing is he is doing great because he’s playing within the system, like Jimmy G… Garrapalo was never an elite qb.. he just is extremely good at knowing what the system is asking for and doing exactly that… put him on the steelers in 08 and instead of winning the super bowl we probably get a top ten pick, and not just because with that oline he would have been dead by game 3… ben made it work often playing outside the system… that isn’t a Garrapalo strength

Trey Lance was picking up the pro game and the 49rs scheme slowly… and the 49rs were in win now mode
 
Steelmann said:
Sure ,everyone has an opinion. I just choose to base mine on more than starting 3 games. He wasn’t rushed back from injury because they had Jimmy G. I would think. Especially in his first year. Obviously.
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So are you saying he has shown enough to bring in a 1st? I don't think we can exclude injuries in the equation. That should factor in IMO.
 
slashsteel said:
So are you saying he has shown enough to bring in a 1st? I don't think we can exclude injuries in the equation. That should factor in IMO.
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What I am saying is how can anybody possibly know yet. Based on 3 games. Kenny was out too. Not in the same extent obviously. But like I said. SanFran was sitting him the first year. I would hate to base our opinion on say our QB ,
People saying he has shown little to nothing .....after starting 3 games. In fact our whole season we have been saying have patience,let him learn. Give him a chance. Whether he is worth a first .....who knows. I just hate those type of blanket statements.
 
Steelmann said:
What I am saying is how can anybody possibly know yet. Based on 3 games. Kenny was out too. Not in the same extent obviously. But like I said. SanFran was sitting him the first year. I would hate to base our opinion on say our QB ,
People saying he has shown little to nothing .....after starting 3 games. In fact our whole season we have been saying have patience,let him learn. Give him a chance. Whether he is worth a first .....who knows. I just hate those type of blanket statements.
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Never said the guy was a bust just said he has shown little which isn't off the mark. Who knows if he develops. I do know he is leaning on not being their guy. But I am sure training camp will sort that out which I really said from the beginning.
 
Steelmann said:
Interesting comments. “ he’s shown little to nothing “. Not that I’m an expert on Lance. Didn’t know you were. Especially since you write him off after he started 2 games in his rookie year.

And one game the past season before being injured in his second game after one quarter.

His rookie year he replaced jimmy g during a game for his first action. 9-18 157 yds 2td 0 int. 41 yds running

Then started his first game. 15-29 0 TD 1 int. 89 yards running.

Then injured. Did not play for 10 weeks.
First game back went 16-23 249 yards 2 TD 1 int. 31 yds running.

Jimmy G then came back after his injury for the rest of the year.

So he’s appeared in limited parts of 6 whole games.

Yet you are ready to write him off. It’s funny considering we certainly preach patience with our own #1 QB.
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Some have this inane ability to judge every other QB after a handful of snaps but lord knows if you are critical to a Pitt player you better stfu
 
Steelmann said:
What I am saying is how can anybody possibly know yet. Based on 3 games. Kenny was out too. Not in the same extent obviously. But like I said. SanFran was sitting him the first year. I would hate to base our opinion on say our QB ,
People saying he has shown little to nothing .....after starting 3 games. In fact our whole season we have been saying have patience,let him learn. Give him a chance. Whether he is worth a first .....who knows. I just hate those type of blanket statements.
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Same as slash said, Lance doesn't have enough time to say yea or nea but in Purdy's limited time he's produced. It may be due to Purdy having allot more college experience at a higher level. All I know is in their limited time on the field, Purdy seems more relaxed, confident and accurate.
 
FordFairLane said:
Some have this inane ability to judge every other QB after a handful of snaps but lord knows if you are critical to a Pitt player you better stfu
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"Some"

It is ok snowflake

Kenny is still >Rudy the red nosed third stringer.

Hey let's do your idea lets get rid of our depth and bring in a scrub to back up Kenny. Saying you were critical was actually soft flowering your book of a thread how Kenny was this that or the other. Only good for you to analyze players using crappy comparisons huh?

Bad enough you pretend to block what is it four people now? But you have to be a vagina and throw out woah is me ****.

**** Rudolph I would take Lance over him.
 
slashsteel said:
"Some"

It is ok snowflake

Kenny is still >Rudy the red nosed third stringer.

Hey let's do your idea lets get rid of our depth and bring in a scrub to back up Kenny. Saying you were critical was actually soft flowering your book of a thread how Kenny was this that or the other. Only good for you to analyze players using crappy comparisons huh?

Bad enough you pretend to block what is it four people now? But you have to be a vagina and throw out woah is me ****.

**** Rudolph I would take Lance over him.
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You're just a dummy and a Pitt fan because you don't agree with him, that's how it works slash.

PS- yeah I think he definitely blocked you 😂
 
ianv2012 said:
You're just a dummy and a Pitt fan because you don't agree with him, that's how it works slash.

PS- yeah I think he definitely blocked you 😂
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That is his go to if you disagree with his stance. What is comical is his regurgitation of whatever his view point is. Like QB etc. He will be right if it takes 836 posts to drill his point across. We have two posters who think they could do a better job running the team but have some of the most bizarre opinions on the board.
 
It was a very bold / risky move to move up and draft Lance so high. I understand he has high potential, but it is based on very limited college experience. Just seemed like an un-needed risk. Purdy has looked pretty calm and confident. He was able to make things happen out of the pocket and should get better. I think he has done enough to earn the starting job heading into camp. If both are looking good after the pre-season they will have a tough choice ahead, but I see Lance at least being the backup next year. If SF is offered a crazy deal for him then maybe they will bite, but it would be pretty crazy they would trade their top pick they gave up a lot for when he has barely played.
 
Drink IRON City said:
Our guys made the mistake of holding Rudolf to long and we got nothing. Once Pickett was drafted that phone horn should have been active in getting something out of Rudolf.


Salute the nation
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You mean a 4th or 5th plus the cap saving rolled over and maybe keeping the guy drafted in the 7th (Oladoken?) would’ve been a better usage of assets?

These are the types of moves/non moves that deplete the talent level and assets on a squad to replenish the talent

We’d still have our project 3rd QB on a super cheap deal and another mid-late round pick plus the cap savings

But I’m sure they adequately evaluated the guy they drafted and cut with his zero snap count.
 
BLITZ said:
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Fiji Mariner said:
You mean a 4th or 5th plus the cap saving rolled over and maybe keeping the guy drafted in the 7th (Oladoken?) would’ve been a better usage of assets?

These are the types of moves/non moves that deplete the talent level and assets on a squad to replenish the talent

We’d still have our project 3rd QB on a super cheap deal and another mid-late round pick plus the cap savings

But I’m sure they adequately evaluated the guy they drafted and cut with his zero snap count.
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I am really not worried about cutting our huge project we drafted in the 7th round. I am not sure what the Steelers or the Chiefs saw from him. There's not a lot of tape but even his highlights aren't impressive. I guess he has a NFL caliber arm but it wouldn't be like Josh Allen elite type or anything.
First play is a poorly thrown ball that the WR makes a nice adjustment and catch on. Second play the ball is underthrown. Third play the guy is WIDE open in the middle but has to do a 360 to turn and catch the ball throw behind him to catch. Play four the receiver catches the ball off his shoelaces. Play 5 I wish I could see more of the field because it looks like he is throwing it at the DB. Play 6 is a bubble screen and the receiver does all the work. Play 7 he does a nice job avoiding pressure... from Sacramento State. etc

 
I remember watching Brock Purdy come in and play phenomenally as a freshman (there seemed to be a lot of hype surrounding him at that point), then he followed that up with a good sophomore season. Junior and senior years, he kind of leveled off, and was more or less forgotten about.

I'm not all that surprised he's doing well as an NFL rookie, because the Big 12 stage wasn't too big for him when he came in and won his first 5 starts as a freshman. He seemed mature for his age even then, 4+ years ago.
 
Stryker said:
Purdy should have been drafted instead of Oladakun.

And the elephant in the room for this post:
The league will make Mr. Irrelevant relevant by naming Purdy Rookie of the Year over Pickett.
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Besides a few egregious homers that only wear rose colored glasses when you speak about Pickett won't agree that Purdy so far is the best QB in the draft. Pickett so far is firmly in second place. Gotta give it a couple more years to really know where the chips lay but watching Purdy I don't think he will not be a top 3 QB in this draft class. And he might never be elite but he should at the minimum be a middle of the pack starter or top tier backup.
 
Uhuh Pickett is still greater than Rudy the red nosed third stringer, snowflake. San Francisco's offense and coordinator is light years ahead of Canada but let's make a blanket statement based off that agenda you have pinned to your chest.
 
FordFairLane said:
Besides a few egregious homers that only wear rose colored glasses when you speak about Pickett won't agree that Purdy so far is the best QB in the draft. Pickett so far is firmly in second place.
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Purdy started less than a third of his team's regular season games, but he has played undeniably well. If it were possible, it would be interesting to see how Purdy would have performed in KP's shoes, and vice-versa.

FordFairLane said:
Gotta give it a couple more years to really know where the chips lay but watching Purdy I don't think he will not be a top 3 QB in this draft class. And he might never be elite but he should at the minimum be a middle of the pack starter or top tier backup.
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But we all know that because of the busted careers of Mayfield and Darnold, by God, Mason is in the running for being a top 3 QB in the 2018 class. Just look at the great start Rudolph had -- much better than Pickett. :upset1:
 
I read a great article on Purdy after his first start. Apparently, after the combine he hired a QB guru and the guru literally changed everything about Purdy from the ground up. Taught him NFL level footwork, remade his body and made him re-learn how to throw...added 5mph to his throw...and on and on.

Well, it worked. The kid looks brilliant so far.
 
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