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Cannot deny the negative impact Ben Roethlisberger had on team chemistry in 2018

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This isn’t a bash Ben thread and everything is his fault. Brown is selfish and quit on the team. With that being said I do believe Ben should take part of the blame in regards to team chemistry. He’s supposedly the leader of the team. I saw this article from Behind Steel Curtain and thought it was worth sharing.

If it was not already clear from all the reports published by both the national and local media over the past few weeks - Antonio Brown is the devil. An that honor was once the sole preserve of Le’Veon Bell around Pittsburgh, now appears to belong to AB.


In light of his end of season dramatics, that is any easy storyline to get on board with and it is impossible to offer any reasonable defense of Brown’s actions adequately excusing what he did. However, barring a number high draft picks in return for a trade, there can be little question that the Pittsburgh Steelers will be better served with him on the roster when the 2019 regular season begins.

An agreement to continue their working relationship would naturally need to come with certain assurances on the part of Brown, most likely requiring a lengthy conversation with senior management to convince them of his sincerity. But regardless if he is to remain with the team, a change in behaviour cannot simply be limited to AB next season.

Ben Roethlisberger continues to have his moments when he has is an impediment to team chemistry, a trend that was initially born from his actions away from the field. As the years have progressed, it has often been his mouth that has caused the team more harm than anything else he has done, and 2018 was a vintage season for him in that regard.


It is no secret that Roethlisberger struggled with the mantle of leadership early on in his career and that his ego was allowed to grow unchecked after winning his first Super Bowl. More than enough has been written over the years detailing the legal issues Big Ben became embroiled in and the suspension that followed in 2010.

As a young quarterback, he would clash with veteran wide receiver Hines Ward and anger his coach with misleading injury reports, later acknowledging he had been far from the perfect teammate in an article by Dan Pompei of Bleacher Report.

“I’d be the first to admit I wasn’t a good teammate early in my career. There are some guys who had animosity towards me, and probably rightfully so. I probably could have helped that by being a humble guy who was the best teammate I could be.”
Issues Emmanuel Sanders would once again allude to in a recent television appearance aired over the weeked.


Although as much as that article from 2015 with Pompei would suggest Roethlisberger was a changed man, it is clear from his some of his actions in 2018 that Big Ben is still far from the finished product.

From making the team’s third round draft pick feel as unwelcome as possible just days after he was selected, to missing OTA’s because of a family holiday that the rest of the team would attended (with the exception of Brown), Roethlisberger was far from the leader you would expect for a player of his stature.

Critical of Le’Veon Bell for missing OTA’s in 2017, Big Ben’s decision to take a vacation just as they begun in June was directly responsible for the absence of AB. With Brown’s sudden disappearance starting the day after Roethlisberger missed his first day of training, clearly he believed what was acceptable for his quarterback was good enough for him.

James Washington was the latest in a long list of wide receivers to be thrown under the bus by Roethlisberger this year, joining names like Martavis Bryant, Sammie Coates, Cobi Hamilton and of course Brown in that regard in just the past few seasons alone.

In the six years since he started his weekly radio show on 93.7 The Fan, it has become a must listen to event more for the possibility that Big Ben will say something inappropriate than any of the other insights he will offer. And while he is far from the only quarterback in the league to have his own show, he is undeniably the only one who continually makes national headlines because of it.


Given far too much leeway by the front office both on and off the field, it would be fair to say that Roethlisberger does not always set the best example for his younger teammates to follow. Now seemingly provided a sympathetic offensive coordinator willing to let him throw the ball at will despite leading the NFL in interceptions, it would be understandable if some of his teammates thought he was getting special treatment from the coaching staff.

While some of his interception were directly responsible for a number of the losses the Steelers suffered in 2018, no one on the coaching staff did anything but support him publicly. A policy followed by the rest of players on the roster. But when the shoe was on the other foot, Roethlisberger was not always so forgiving.

There can be no denying that Big Ben can be as critical of himself in public as he is on others, but he is also willing to give himself the benefit of the doubt he often seems reluctant to give to others. It was notable that of all the people he blamed for his game clinching interception against the Denver Broncos, the list somehow included Brown, Ramon Foster and Randy Fichtner.

If the Steelers are to offer Roethlisberger an extension during the offseason, the two sides need to have a conversation about what they expect from a team leader going forward. In the twilight of his career, Big Ben needs to make the most of the of talent around him if he wants to have any hope of adding a third Super Bowl title to his resume, and it can only be hoped that he can be made to see that his style of leadership is not exactly working with all of his teammates.


Roethlisberger may believe in his right to criticise his teammates publicly, but it is clear from the responses of many former and current players around the league that they would not be prepared to accept his tough-love approach if they were on his team. With that in mind, It should perhaps come as no surprise to learn that Cam Newton was the only quarterback players would least like to have as a teammates than Big Ben, according to poll conducted by The Athletic of 85 defensive players on 25 different teams.

All this being said, nothing Roethlisberger did this year left him an insurmountable mountain to climb in terms of repairing any relationships with the team like Brown, but if he could at least be convinced to give up his radio show and keep his comments in house, his teammates would be sure to welcome it.
 
With that being said I do believe Ben should take part of the blame in regards to team chemistry. He’s supposedly the leader of the team

Another one SMH

The team leader is Tomlin the head coach.

I am tired of these fingers pointed at Big Ben. It is getting old.
 
Idiotic article as usual.

What games did his INTs cost us? The Denver game?

Tell me exactly what a team leader does.

Hell Tom Brady isn't even a team captain.

Who cares what guys that aren't on this team say.

Washington said Ben helped him, funny that's not in the article.

What legal trouble, are there any charges or warrants or anything?

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Another one SMH

The team leader is Tomlin the head coach.

I am tired of these fingers pointed at Big Ben. It is getting old.

I’m tired of everyone always blaming Tomlin while always giving a pass to our supposedly hall of fame QB.
 
I’m tired of everyone always blaming Tomlin while always giving a pass to our supposedly hall of fame QB.
When it comes to discipline issues, that's on the Head Coach.

Hell Brady was throwing his hands in the air and shaking his head when their young WR, Dorsett, messed up his route this weekend. Ben doesn't do that, I guess Brady is a bad leader then

Who is blaming Tomlin outside of here?
He's getting a pass by alot of people, he's not even mentioned most of the time.

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Idiotic article as usual.

What games did his INTs cost us? The Denver game?

Tell me exactly what a team leader does.

Hell Tom Brady isn't even a team captain.

Who cares what guys that aren't on this team say.

Washington said Ben helped him, funny that's not in the article.

What legal trouble, are there any charges or warrants or anything?

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Tom Brady as far as I know has been voted team captain at least 15 years.
 
I’m tired of everyone always blaming Tomlin while always giving a pass to our supposedly hall of fame QB.

If Ben was the head coach you could blame him. But he isn't,everyone (that blames him) blames Tomlin because that is his ******* job ! To lead this team to control the locker room and put the team in the best position to win.

supposedly HOF? Sorry whitey one day will get in, much to your dismay !
 
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When it comes to discipline issues, that's on the Head Coach.

Hell Brady was throwing his hands in the air and shaking his head when their young WR, Dorsett, messed up his route this weekend. Ben doesn't do that, I guess Brady is a bad leader then

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Agree 100% discipline issues fall on Tomlin. Nobody said it doesn’t. All I’m saying is he should take responsibility for team chemistry.
 
Yep. Ben should never say anything but "Gosh, those guys are perfect. I have no explanation whatsoever how we didn't win. Indeed, I think we need to make sure we didn't win because as perfectly as every single guy on the team played - it's simply not possible that we could have lost. I mean, have you seen how amazingly amazing every single guy on the roster is? From top to bottom, I don't think we have one guy on the team except me that shouldn't be considered the #1 guy in the league. If I had that vote, I promise there would be 52 guys ranked #1 in the league every single year. But - hey, the reporters and beat writers are pretty darn amazing too. I can't imagine anyone who could possibly do a better job. I mean these guys are literally pulitzer quality. Every single article they write ought to be submitted for the prize, and if I had my way, they'd make it so 300 or 400 guys could win it every year because it's hard to comprehend how they don't.

And have you guys SEEN the fellow who cleans the bathrooms in the locker room? I mean THAT guy! He's ******* Numero Uno. I don't think ANYONE can clean like that guy does. Just so frickin amazeballs. And I'd just like to say - I sincerely wish Antonio and James had been my childrens' father. Hey - I've offered, but those guys are so humble and amazing it hasn't happened yet - but if I had MY wish! Heck I'd make a time machine and send Antonio back in time to get my Mom pregnant! How AWESOME would THAT be? And while we're at it - let's get Christianity on track by politely pulling Jesus aside and putting the REAL Messiah in place. I mean, you think the Romans coulda caught AB jukin'? No way! For Christmas we'd be celebrating toe-drags and stop-and-gos. And it would be AMAZING! Cause he's THAT good. That perfect. We should get alhold of Websters and have them update the dictionary. We can just replace all the words for Amazing, Awesome, Spectacular, Perfect, Extraordinary etc. with the names of my teammates. Cause hey - Every one of them is the living embodiment of human perfection. Except me, of course. I suck. I'm just happy to be in the presence of so many Gods on a daily basis. I thank AB every day!
 
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If Ben was the head coach you could blame him. But he isn't, everyone blames Tomlin because that is his ******* job ! To lead this team to control the locker room and put the team in the best position to win.

supposedly HOF? Sorry whitey one day get in to your dismay !


Don’t get it twisted. I’m a Ben fan. I just think he should be held to a higher standard when it comes to being a leader on and off the field. Yes everyone is paid to do a job but their is a reason they vote on team captains because leadership is important.
 
Agree 100% discipline issues fall on Tomlin. Nobody said it doesn’t. All I’m saying is he should take responsibility for team chemistry.
Team chemistry is fine outside of ******* AB.

Again I'm waiting for someone to tell me what a leader is supposed to do? What makes a good leader?
Hmm how about crediting your entire offense when you win the passing title, he said that's a team award.
How about communicating every day with your WR who is in rehab, I wonder if Tomlin did?
How about taking blame for losses when he didn't do anything to lose the game.

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Don’t get it twisted. I’m a Ben fan. I just think he should be held to a higher standard when it comes to being a leader on and off the field. Yes everyone is paid to do a job but their is a reason they vote on team captains because leadership is important.

52 players on the team.
Everyone needs to be accountable.

Tomlin needs to learn how to mange egos and everyone collectively needs to have a meeting and hold themselves to a higher stamdard.
The Steelers are a TEAM. Act like one.
 
Don’t get it twisted. I’m a Ben fan. I just think he should be held to a higher standard when it comes to being a leader on and off the field. Yes everyone is paid to do a job but their is a reason they vote on team captains because leadership is important.
Ummm Ben is a team captain

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So it's ok for him to show up his teammates and coaches during games?

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Throwing your hands in the air and getting frustrated someone ran the wrong route isn’t the issue. Hell even Peyton Manning did it. But it’s clear those guys have the respect of their teammates. Show me one time where the great WB’s such as Brady or Manning where a player who played with them had something negative to say.
 
Team chemistry is fine outside of ******* AB.

Again I'm waiting for someone to tell me what a leader is supposed to do? What makes a good leader?
Hmm how about crediting your entire offense when you win the passing title, he said that's a team award.
How about communicating every day with your WR who is in rehab, I wonder if Tomlin did?
How about taking blame for losses when he didn't do anything to lose the game.

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From what I can tell with the fingers pointed at Ben is if he was black he would be a good team leader.
 
Tomlin threw Bos under the bus publicly, while Ben said they still had faith in him.
Hell the Tuesday after the Cincy game where AB went ***** mode, Ben talked in very high regards about AB

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Atl, I have never heard Ben say anything on his radio show that wasn't completely accurate.

Washington DOES need to perform better. Sammy Coates DID suck. Martavis WAS a head-case.

If Brown ran a poor route in Denver, why can't anybody comment on it? Ben said he threw a dumb pass. Should we consider him a bad leader when he says HE ***** up? (No DECENT leader would ever criticize himself. He may get hurt feelings and stop talking to himself.) Ben is absolutely NOT perfect but I have never once heard him put a loss on any player other than himself. Was he a bit of a douche when he was younger? It seems so. But I believe he went through a significant life change after all the turmoil and bullshit he went through, much of it his own fault (But hey, you aren't a leader if you bring that up. That's **** fanning there. Don't be a **** fan. All you can possibly do is talk about the positives and elevate them to a level of superlative ***-kissing that makes clear every guy on the roster is essentially a deity.

Stop ****-Fanning! Be a leader!
 
And did ANYONE ELSE HERE want people fired at your job who didn't give a ****?

I do all the time. Personalities are a part of life. Yes Ben is upfront and rough. So the **** what?

**** AB, **** LE'VEON, & **** JAMES HARRISON....

Sorry guys, my Girlfriend is acting up and right now I ain't taking **** from her or these WUSSY Superstars who only care about individual stats....

Damn, I'm in a good place today.....FINALLY
 
Tomlin threw Bos under the bus publicly, while Ben said they still had faith in him.
Hell the Tuesday after the Cincy game where AB went ***** mode, Ben talked in very high regards about AB

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Tomlin pretty much said AB quit on the team,, Ben is light years away from a slam like that.
 
Can someone please tell me, or post an article about what makes a good team leader????
Sounds to me like the few that complain are the ones that just want their ***** kissed 24/7, and can't take constructive criticism.



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Tomlin pretty much said AB quit on the team,, Ben is light years away from a slam like that.
Exactly, people makes these claims, but no one backs it up with actual events.
Hell the *** clown on the fan here in Pittsburgh yesterday was trying to throw blame on Ben for Munchak leaving. That guy is a total tool that loves the negative feedback and he's from Cleveland, not sure why that station employs him still. It's easy to see why Mark Madden obliterates them in ratings

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Can someone please tell me, or post an article about what makes a good team leader????
Sounds to me like the few that complain are the ones that just want their ***** kissed 24/7, and can't take constructive criticism.



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Here ya go.

DEFINITION: Leadership is a process of social influence which maximizes the efforts of others toward the achievement of a greater good. Notice the key elements of this definition: Leadership stems from social influence, not authority or power.
 
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