This cat has never listened to his show, he is a media sheep for whichever articles fit his agenda.
I’m tired of everyone always blaming Tomlin while always giving a pass to our supposedly hall of fame QB.
I’m tired of everyone always blaming Tomlin while always giving a pass to our supposedly hall of fame QB.
we are only speculating at best what has gone on in the locker room and what happened with Brown. Nobody really knows.
Can someone please tell me, or post an article about what makes a good team leader????
Sounds to me like the few that complain are the ones that just want their ***** kissed 24/7, and can't take constructive criticism.
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You are correct. He’s actually been voted 10 times. The issue is I believe he needs to take responsibility for 2018. He led poorly. It’s ok to admit that. It’s the responsibility of any good leader.
Let me say it one more time for the people in the back. I’m not suggesting this season is Ben’s fault. All I’m suggesting is he should take some responsibility as he is the team captain and leader of the team. He probably could have handle certain situations better. Especially since he comes across more mature than Brown. I will also flip the script on people who criticize people as Tomlin apologist. Maybe you just may be Roethlisberger apologist. He does no wrong.
Hard to debate someone who talks out of both sides. On the same page, you state he's responsible for the entire season and then the season isn't his fault. But trolls have got to troll.
I am sure many of QBs come across like ********. Rodgers,Brady,Cam, etc. Even then there is many examples in this thread that point to him being a good teammate. You are on the couch blowing smoke up our *** about a reputation. But Ben's bad rep came from earlier in his career. So that has nothing to do with the here and now dipshit.It’s funny you have several ex teammates over the year say Ben isn’t a leader yet all the couch potatoes here know he is. The guy has a big time reputation of being a ******* that alone is a reason he’s not a good leader. He is not liked
Hard to debate someone who talks out of both sides. On the same page, you state he's responsible for the entire season and then the season isn't his fault. But trolls have got to troll.
He wants to blame Ben without saying it in so many words because he knows the blame lies with Tomlin. Tomlin must be protected at all costs. Players are different type of leaders than the coach. The HC is in charge of his locker room. He is the one that can suspend, reprimand, or sit a player. Tomlin coddled and allowed ABs attitude to go unchecked for years. Ben didn't do that and couldn't stop it because he doesn't run the team. Ben talking about a play or two in games isn't what caused AB to become an *******. Tomlin allowing his stupid **** to continue for years is what caused AB to become the distraction he is today.
Trying to put words in my mouth I never said to prove your own point. The truth of it is everyone debating him taking SOME responsibility are the most vocal in saying they want Tomlin fired. What if I said I think Tomlin should be fired and Roethlisberger should take part of the blame. What would you say then?
I would say you are half right.
Throwing your hands in the air and getting frustrated someone ran the wrong route isn’t the issue. Hell even Peyton Manning did it. But it’s clear those guys have the respect of their teammates. Show me one time where the great WB’s such as Brady or Manning where a player who played with them had something negative to say.
Hahaha! Good comeback.
Who, Sanders? He himself admitted he was an *** when he was younger, but people can change. Bettis credited him for being a leader and named him as a reason he came back in 2005. So a HOFer said he was a leader, not all people lead the same.It’s funny you have several ex teammates over the year say Ben isn’t a leader yet all the couch potatoes here know he is. The guy has a big time reputation of being a ******* that alone is a reason he’s not a good leader. He is not liked
Who, Sanders? He himself admitted he was an *** when he was younger, but people can change. Bettis credited him for being a leader and named him as a reason he came back in 2005. So a HOFer said he was a leader, not all people lead the same.
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How did he call anyone out???Ben was an *** earlier in his career. I do believe he has changed and has worked hard on his reputation. I do believe he is a hall of fame QB. I just think he deserves SOME responsibility this year in regards to team chemistry. I think him calling out teammates publicly was wrong. Just my opinion.
How did he call anyone out???
You keep saying teammates, who?
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Have you not been listening? Washington and Brown. Obviously Brown being the biggest name. Did Ben have a right to call him out? Of course if he ran the wrong route. Do it on nationally TV knowing the guy is selfish and a diva? Not the smartest move.
Have you not been listening? Washington and Brown. Obviously Brown being the biggest name. Did Ben have a right to call him out? Of course if he ran the wrong route. Do it on nationally TV knowing the guy is selfish and a diva? Not the smartest move.
Wow, if what he said about Washington is considered being called out, then I suggest these guys get thicker skin or just stay home with Mommy. He never called him out, if you actually listen to his show you would've heard them ask him about Washington missing that ball and what he thought, his response, " yeah he needs to make that play, he knows that, we talked. I told him we're going to need him"Have you not been listening? Washington and Brown. Obviously Brown being the biggest name. Did Ben have a right to call him out? Of course if he ran the wrong route. Do it on nationally TV knowing the guy is selfish and a diva? Not the smartest move.
Where the hell are you coming up with this? I never said 2018 was Ben’s fault and if you get your head out of his *** you see clearly he has SOME responsibility how 2018 went down.
Let me also add just because another Steelers fan has a different opinion doesn’t make them a troll.