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Chickillo a starter for the Miami game?

Steelers Film Room: Jarvis Jones Vs Jets

BY MATTHEW MARCZI OCTOBER 15, 2016 AT 10:00 AM
Fourth-year Pittsburgh Steelers outside linebacker Jarvis Jones doesn’t have a lot of supporters in his corner defending him these days—nor has he since he first took the field for the team—but such is life for a first-round draft pick who does not live up to his pedigree, and I’m certain not even his most ardent supporters would deny that that is the fact of the matter.

That does not mean, however, that he has been negatively contributing to the defense. In fact, his overall game outside of what everybody wants out of him—the pass rush—has really developed in a positive way, particularly over the course of the past two seasons especially, and he has become a solid all-around player within the framework of what they ask him to do.

Jones doesn’t rush the passer as much as the average 3-4 outside linebacker, because it’s not what he does best, but he does just about everything else with reasonable efficiency, which is why he has 18 tackles, two passes defensed, and an interception through five games in 210 snaps played.

One of the things that I’ve noticed a lot this season is that he’s grown in terms of discipline as a backside defender, and that has allowed him to chase down a number of plays. He made a tackle for no gain on a second-and-one play at the end of the first quarter against the Jets because he read the play well from the back side.



Jones got close to making a big play early in the second quarter when he was left untouched on a screen pass on second and long. He rushed in, but read the quarterback, and almost got himself a pass deflection in his face, but the pass was completed for nine yards.



That set up a third and eight on the next play, on which Jones put pressure on the quarterback to throw short of the sticks, helping to prevent a first down.

Later in the game, about five minutes into the third quarter, the Jets were in another second-and-one situation, and were looking to get out a quick hitter, but Jones was prepared for it as he came in on the pass rush, reading the quarterback and reaching back with his armed outstretched, batting the ball up in the air.



On the next play, setting up a third and one, Jones stayed disciplined on a misdirection attempt, bailing on the pass rush when he sensed that a shovel pass to the back was coming, and he made the tackle for no gain to force a punt.



His best opportunity on the pass rush came late in the game, on the Jets’ final drive, when the game was admittedly already in hand. Jones was able to beat the left tackle to the inside and got a good hit on the quarterback as he threw for an incompletion.



The former first-round draft pick may not have ever developed into what the Steelers drafted him to be, but when taken in a vacuum, he has built himself up into being a solid contributor for this defense when you let go of the sack count as the sole barometer for what a 3-4 outside linebacker is.

Film in the link below

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2016/10/steelers-film-room-jarvis-jones-vs-jets/
 
They may end being able to go best player available, especially if Dupree performs up to expectations when he's activated.

If they lose confidence in getting anything out of Golson, I could see them going CB early again.

Your last sentence is exactly why I wish they'd give Gilbert a chance to see what we have in him. Gay's time will be coming to an end and I'd feel better with Cockrell as a #2-3 guy. If Golson doesn't pan out, potentially we have Burns and Gilbert as our guys on the outside, and Cockrell as a the slot man. However, we don't have a clue what Gilbert can do. Odds are he's not going to be much better than he was in cleve, but I'd still like to see what he can do.
 
Steelers Film Room: Jarvis Jones Vs Jets

BY MATTHEW MARCZI OCTOBER 15, 2016 AT 10:00 AM
Fourth-year Pittsburgh Steelers outside linebacker Jarvis Jones doesn’t have a lot of supporters in his corner defending him these days—nor has he since he first took the field for the team—but such is life for a first-round draft pick who does not live up to his pedigree, and I’m certain not even his most ardent supporters would deny that that is the fact of the matter.

That does not mean, however, that he has been negatively contributing to the defense. In fact, his overall game outside of what everybody wants out of him—the pass rush—has really developed in a positive way, particularly over the course of the past two seasons especially, and he has become a solid all-around player within the framework of what they ask him to do.

Jones doesn’t rush the passer as much as the average 3-4 outside linebacker, because it’s not what he does best, but he does just about everything else with reasonable efficiency, which is why he has 18 tackles, two passes defensed, and an interception through five games in 210 snaps played.

One of the things that I’ve noticed a lot this season is that he’s grown in terms of discipline as a backside defender, and that has allowed him to chase down a number of plays. He made a tackle for no gain on a second-and-one play at the end of the first quarter against the Jets because he read the play well from the back side.



Jones got close to making a big play early in the second quarter when he was left untouched on a screen pass on second and long. He rushed in, but read the quarterback, and almost got himself a pass deflection in his face, but the pass was completed for nine yards.



That set up a third and eight on the next play, on which Jones put pressure on the quarterback to throw short of the sticks, helping to prevent a first down.

Later in the game, about five minutes into the third quarter, the Jets were in another second-and-one situation, and were looking to get out a quick hitter, but Jones was prepared for it as he came in on the pass rush, reading the quarterback and reaching back with his armed outstretched, batting the ball up in the air.



On the next play, setting up a third and one, Jones stayed disciplined on a misdirection attempt, bailing on the pass rush when he sensed that a shovel pass to the back was coming, and he made the tackle for no gain to force a punt.



His best opportunity on the pass rush came late in the game, on the Jets’ final drive, when the game was admittedly already in hand. Jones was able to beat the left tackle to the inside and got a good hit on the quarterback as he threw for an incompletion.



The former first-round draft pick may not have ever developed into what the Steelers drafted him to be, but when taken in a vacuum, he has built himself up into being a solid contributor for this defense when you let go of the sack count as the sole barometer for what a 3-4 outside linebacker is.

Film in the link below

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2016/10/steelers-film-room-jarvis-jones-vs-jets/

Come on, ant, we all know he's not even good enough to be sniffing Chick's jock.
 
I want to see Chickillo play well. While Moats seems like a good guy, he's better fit as a backup. It'd be nice for a young linebacker to step up until Dupree is ready--I really can't wait to see him healthy and back on the field. I just hope we get that chance this season.
 
Jones has improved and is at least serviceable. He will be a good rotational player and back up. I think we have seen his ceiling and it is limited by his athletic ability. Chick and Dupree are still developing and I suspect they will each have a higher ceiling than Jones when they reach it. It just seems we drafted Jones early and he will be a good role player on the team, He might be the next olsalvski (sp) instead of the next debo but I am ok with that. There have been many high round picks that did not even stay on the team.
 
I think most can all agree that from what we saw from Dupree he looks the part of an explosive player. Chickillo is very much a work in progress. Jones is what he is. I'm very glad that Jones has carved a niche in his game. He has. But it's kinda like saying that a running back catches and blocks very well but has no vision or burst to run the ball.
 
I think most can all agree that from what we saw from Dupree he looks the part of an explosive player. Chickillo is very much a work in progress. Jones is what he is. I'm very glad that Jones has carved a niche in his game. He has. But it's kinda like saying that a running back catches and blocks very well but has no vision or burst to run the ball.

I wouldn't necessarily not re-sign Jones but I wouldn't give him a crapload of money either. If someone wants to pay a dollar more then let them.
 
I think most can all agree that from what we saw from Dupree he looks the part of an explosive player. Chickillo is very much a work in progress. Jones is what he is. I'm very glad that Jones has carved a niche in his game. He has. But it's kinda like saying that a running back catches and blocks very well but has no vision or burst to run the ball.

I'm usually not negative, but i'd at least want fairness. Dupree had 6 good games as a Steeler, then nothing. He is now on IR and is being defended as a godsend at pass rush. What has he done? 4 sacks in 6 games that turned into 16? Now that he's on IR, why aren't our usual suspects killing this kid for being injury prone?
 
I'm usually not negative, but i'd at least want fairness. Dupree had 6 good games as a Steeler, then nothing. He is now on IR and is being defended as a godsend at pass rush. What has he done? 4 sacks in 6 games that turned into 16? Now that he's on IR, why aren't our usual suspects killing this kid for being injury prone?

Yes Dupree is by no means a finished product as a pass rusher. If he does not get stronger and develop a power move besides his speed rush we will see him getting ran up the arc and out of the play like we did last year. Once OTs saw all he had was a speed rush he was done
 
I'm usually not negative, but i'd at least want fairness. Dupree had 6 good games as a Steeler, then nothing. He is now on IR and is being defended as a godsend at pass rush. What has he done? 4 sacks in 6 games that turned into 16? Now that he's on IR, why aren't our usual suspects killing this kid for being injury prone?

Dupree want not injury prone in college. The knock on him was his football iq. Those who believe in the low wonderlic scores should be concerned. I think Dupree got a 13.

I think the steelers misdiagnosed or gambled on his injury. He would have been better off getting the surgery sooner.
 
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