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This really worked out well for the team. We end up with a quality 2 at a reasonable price and a quality 3 (that is better than some 2s) at an even more reasonable price. Hard for me not to be ok with this.
Contract extension coming for Trubisky
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They got a 2 for Claypool. I think they could possibly get a 1 for Mitch depending on who gets injured in preseason. If you're a coach or GM on the hot seat and your QB gets hurt early in the season, Mitch becomes awfully attractive. Bears were desperate to get a WR for Field last year and made a bad trade. Happens all the time
Atlanta - they drafted Bijan Robinson and are rolling with Desmond Ridder and Tyler Heineke at QB. Unproven QB and coach on hot seat
Washington - Sam Howell getting his shot. The team is being sold and Rivera may be on the way out. Unproven QB and coach on hot seat
Jets - they went all in on Rodgers. What if he gets hurt? Jets make dumb moves all the time
Las Vegas - Jimmy G is who he is. Josh McDaniels on hot seat. Let them have a slow start and maybe they become very interested in Mitch.
Tampa Bay - rolling with Baker Mayfield. Todd Bowles has been fired before. FYI Tampa's co-Defensive Coordinator is Larry Foote
Now you have to consider the contenders. What if Josh Allen gets injured? Bills aren't going to flush a possible super bowl season down the tubes. Same with a lot of teams.
Trading Mitch would leave the Steelers thin at QB, but so what. You drafted Pickett. Go all in on him. Tomlin and Khan have about as much job security as any coach in the league. They can weather a bad season if Pickett goes down and you have to start Rudolph.
Besides, i'm not sold on Pickett yet. I'd like to have some extra picks so you can trade up and get your next QB if Pickett seems to just be an average starter.
I think there is little question where Mitch is at now in his career. Chicago is holding out hope they can see some of what we saw in Claypool year one. I think every team looks at Mitch as either a backup or borderline starter. I really doubt he could see higher than a 3. I am thinking more like a 5th or lower. And I don't want to deplete depth just because it is convenient. Steelers are not a bottom barrel team. No reason to deplete depth outside of a player being a potential problem. At least not with our team IMO.
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And this is the problem of the Tomlin Steelers: squeezing into the playoffs.
It needs to be SB or bust.
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All indications are that the Steelers are much more comfortable with Mitch.
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If Picket goes down for a six week stretch, going 2-4 with Rudolph vs going 4-2 with Mitch could easily be the difference in making the playoffs or getting home field.
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You are a super bowl contender or you're not. In another thread i said the steelers could be a SB contender but that would rely upon Canada getting smarter and Pickett making a huge jump up to Burrow levels. It's unlikely.
If you are not a SB contender then i'd rather have an extra premium pick that have a backup QB that allows the Steelers to extend the precious non-losing streak and have an early playoff exit.
Look at how much that extra #2 pick contributed to the steelers haveing one of the best drafts they've had in years. Steelers obviously wanted OT and CB that could start immediately. Without the extra #2, i'd bet that they take Porter in rd 1 and don't even get a top OT. It also allowed them to draft Washington who was a bit of a luxury pick.
I'm not saying you give Mitch away for peanuts but if you can get a 2 for him, I say do it.
Imagine stacking another draft like this last one. Yeah, i'm OK with missing the playoffs this year to make that happen and set the team up for the long term.
If you are not a SB contender then i'd rather have an extra premium pick that have a backup QB that allows the Steelers to extend the precious non-losing streak and have an early playoff exit.
Look at how much that extra #2 pick contributed to the steelers haveing one of the best drafts they've had in years. Steelers obviously wanted OT and CB that could start immediately. Without the extra #2, i'd bet that they take Porter in rd 1 and don't even get a top OT. It also allowed them to draft Washington who was a bit of a luxury pick.
I'm not saying you give Mitch away for peanuts but if you can get a 2 for him, I say do it.
Imagine stacking another draft like this last one. Yeah, i'm OK with missing the playoffs this year to make that happen and set the team up for the long term.
Somewhat. But there is always teams that surprise. I also would rather the team try and fail than not try at all. Plus I like for the team to play in the playoffs and see what happens. Making moves that prevents that from happening is a mentality I don't wish the Steelers ever to take on. I want to win. In that process make the moves that best gives a the team to do that. If you start playing that push the can down the road **** that doesn't necessarily mean next year will be any better. You have the draft and free agency to strengthen the team that should be enough without depleting depth and making a wish upon a star for the following season. Wish in one hand and **** in the other see which one fills up quicker.
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An extra pick is great, but I think you way overvalued Trubisky. He'd maybe get a day 3 pick. Do you move him for a pick that late?
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I'd move him in a heartbeat for a 1 or 2. I'd probably move him for a 3 unless I thought it would be a late 3. I'd keep him for a 4 or later.
Again, i'll point out they got a 2 for Claypool. All it takes is 1 team to have a QB injury and face a lost season to pony up a 2 out of desperation.
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with the Raiders possibly losing Jimmy G due to injury and having zero depth at QB, would you trade him one of our backups? Can we fleece the Raiders like we did the Bears?
Ok maybe not so bad of a trade for them but if they offer a 5th for Rudolph or a 4th for Mitch, would you take it?
Ok maybe not so bad of a trade for them but if they offer a 5th for Rudolph or a 4th for Mitch, would you take it?
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Here is a good article and possible explaination of Mit5ch's extension
Says he might have been released had he not agreed to extension. Also gives his contract numbers / years / bonus' etc..
Clears a little of the questions up.
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Says he might have been released had he not agreed to extension. Also gives his contract numbers / years / bonus' etc..
Clears a little of the questions up.
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I’m not sure what they mean by “nobody came knocking on the veteran QBs door”. He was under contract, they’d have to knock on the Steelers door if they were interested in him.
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maybe the FO told him to test his market value if he didnt accept the extension? And / Or no one asked the FO for a possible trade
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I'm sure the Mitch camp put out feelers and never got much interest. That is probably what they were referring to.
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WTF makes you believe they go 4-2 with Mitch, let alone claim 2-4 with Rudy. Mitch couldn’t even put up more wins than losses when he was the STARTING QB. No way in hell does he do it as a backup.
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Different season, hopefully a better team. Statistically, the best QB performances of last season belonged to Trubisky (one as the backup) and he finished the season as the highest rated QB on the team. If you’re going to be all doom and gloom about Trubisky, you’d be wise to temper your enthusiasm about Pickett.
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If Mitch had gone 4-2 he wouldn't be the backup QB.
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This,^^^^^^^^^^^. I’d take the premium pick as well. 3rd or higher, but hope a #2 or #1.
I think if that scenario of Pickett hurt 6 games and Mitch is gone, we somehow fail. I don’t think that is the case as Mitch has to prove himself and Rudolf is a little better than most here give him credit for. Good enough to preserve the
NON-losing season streak. (Worthless streak)
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Mitch’s people made him some really good money, he got his 8mil that he was about to lose, then also got him another 11mil on top of that. Reality is that he will play out the extension, and bank 19 mil in the next 3 years, when he shou
I didn’t mention Pickett, you did.
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So you’re doom and gloom about the 2023 Steelers in general? If you agree that, statistically, there’s not much if anything to indicate that Pickett is better than Mitch, and you think the 2023 Steelers are unlikely to go 4-2 with Mitch, I can only conclude that you think the 2023 Steelers will be 9-8 at best regardless of QB.
If Mitch had a winning season last year he probably would have been moved to make room for Pickett this year anyhow… with how Pickett gets rave reviews from everyone on his work ethic and intangibles, they would have wanted to get him in sooner rather than later…
Actually in development, it probably worked out that last year was a sunken season so quickly…
He got to see what the NFL game was like and managed to not get stunted by the ridiculous way they tossed him into the fire…
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It wasn’t just the way he was tossed, but fire extinguisher (OC) used to combat the flames didn’t help either.
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