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Covid Vaccine

Tim Steelersfan said:
Natural immunity is always superior to artificial immunity
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Good to know how enamored you are with yourself as you and your family have been busy catching Covid on mulitple occasions. Also good to know you now have natural immunity. I pray for all those you've encounted over the past year and a half who you may - or may not - have infected along the way, on your journey to attain your cherished immunity.
 
Tibs said:
I've never had Covid
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That you KNOW of. Because you do not know, the rest of your typical bullshit is well...bullshit.

You have NO idea if you have had asymptomatic Covid unless you have been tested every damned day/week....which we know you have not been.

From the article I just provided you, 120M Americans (likely much more) have had Covid. Only 35M tested positive. Those beyond 35M, 90% didn't know they had it.

You have no way of claiming 100% you've not had Rona unless you get an antibody test.

I got an antibody test. I had not had Covid as of August 6 and THAT day I began my bout with Covid. Stayed home. Beat Covid like 99.97% do. Now naturally immune and better protected than you.

I have far more insight into my case than you do yours.
 
Troglodyte said:
Meh, what was the alternative?
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Jeez, that is so pathetic. "Ehh, he's better than Trump."

No, he's not. Not even close. Disaster at the southern border, disaster in Afghanistan, disaster with spending, disaster with debt (funny how 21IQ seems to have lost interest in that issue, ehh?), disaster with inflation, disaster with energy production, gasoline prices, grocery prices, disaster with the Chinese flu, disaster with labor participation, disaster with confidence in the government, disaster with our allies, disaster with China and North Korea and Russia.

Why don't you goddamn admit that voting for an imbecile plagiarist greedy liar political hack nobody idiot was a mistake on the level of flying the Hindenburg into the Titanic?

Troglodyte said:
I’m back to having to remember to bring a ******* mask everywhere in case I need it. They’re taking up undeserved ICU beds. They’re increasing the likelihood that the virus mutates into a vaccine-resistant variant.
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That's not how the variants arise, Flog. Variants arise when the virus is exposed to the vaccine and some of the virus survives, and that virus then is transmitted, creating vaccine-resistant strains. That has been true as long as we have had medications to treat viruses and bacteria.

The big question is whether the vaccines directly incited these changes or the evolution happened, coincidentally, for other reasons, but Read is pretty sure the vaccines have played a role. In a 2015 paper in PLOS Biology, Read and his colleagues vaccinated 100 chickens, leaving 100 others unvaccinated. They then infected all the birds with strains of Marek’s that varied in how virulent — as in how dangerous and infectious — they were. The team found that, over the course of their lives, the unvaccinated birds shed far more of the least virulent strains into the environment, whereas the vaccinated birds shed far more of the most virulent strains. The findings suggest that the Marek’s vaccine encourages more dangerous viruses to proliferate. This increased virulence might then give the viruses the means to overcome birds’ vaccine-primed immune responses and sicken vaccinated flocks.
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Antibody resistance has been known for decades and is a major concern. What happens is that a patient takes an antibiotic, like penicillin, for the bacterial infection, the penicillin kills the vast majority of the bacteria, but in a small number of patients, a variant survives the penicillin and becomes antibody-resistant. That has forced drug manufacturers to develop new antibiotics to battle the new, penicillin-resistant strain of the bacteria.

Of course viruses are not bacteria, we get that. The fact is that previously, vaccine-resistant viruses involved things like colds and flus so people did not much care. So the new cold virus is resistant to a vaccine and you get a cold? Who cares? *

So Flog when you state that the non-vaccinated are the source for more dangerous versions of the Chinese flu, you have it exactly backwards.

* Before you go nuts about the cold virus and vaccines, be aware that yes, we can develop vaccines for a cold virus. The problem is that there are literally hundreds of variations of the cold virus and developing a vaccine to those viruses would be prohibitively expensive, especially considering how innocuous the cold virus is, and would not protect the patient from any one of the other 75 variations. And guess what is true about the cold virus? You get a particular strain once and only once since once you recover, you have immunity from that strain.

You’re not going to catch a cold from the same virus serotype again after getting better. However, you can still get another cold from a different virus serotype or a different virus.
When you get sick, you develop antibodies for the virus serotype you’ve caught, Dr. Greninger explains. This keeps you from catching it again. But those antibodies won’t necessarily protect you from other forms of the virus.

Say you catch the serotype HRV (human rhinovirus)-A60, then improve right as your partner catches HRV-C17. You could get the common cold again if your body is vulnerable to that new rhinovirus serotype.
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www.self.com

Can You Actually Catch the Same Cold Twice?

Sometimes it sure feels like it.
www.self.com www.self.com

That's why we get fewer colds as we get older. Did you know that, Flog? Bet you didn't.
 
Tibs said:
Good to know how enamored you are with yourself as you and your family have been busy catching Covid on mulitple occasions. Also good to know you now have natural immunity. I pray for all those you've encounted over the past year and a half who you may - or may not - have infected along the way, on your journey to attain your cherished immunity.
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As I said above...my antibody test on August 6 (taken on August 3rd) showed no antibodies. I had never had Covid. August 6 I got Covid.

I've spread it to no one. I can say that.
 
Take all of this for what it is worth, but I still believe we are being lied to about the negative effects of the vaccines.

Anecdotal Comments of Death After the Jab Flood WXYZ-TV’s FB Post​

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Anecdotal Comments of Death After the Jab Flood WXYZ-TV's FB Post - UncoverDC

After Biden's mandates & new CDC warning, WXYZ asks FB fans to share stories of losing unvaxxed loved ones but is flooded with the opposite.
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By all accounts, ABC affiliate WXYZ-TV—Detroit’s “breaking news and weather leader”—has supported the COVID-19 narrative handed down by the White House and other government agencies since the inception of the pandemic. Last Thursday, the Biden Administration announced executive orders designed to encourage or mandate vaccines for every American citizen. The following day, Friday, Sept. 10, an “official” message from the CDC circulated through mainstream media to provide motivation to get the jab. Picked up by WXYZ-TV, headlines around the country declared:

“Unvaccinated people are eleven times more likely to die from COVID-19 than those fully vaccinated, CDC study shows.”

In addition to airing the CDC’s declaration that unvaccinated people are considerably more likely to die from COVID-19 than those vaccinated, the network also made a Facebook post posing the following question to its readers:

“After the vaccines were available to everyone, did you lose an unvaccinated loved one to COVID-19? If you’re willing to share your family’s story, please DM us your contact information. We may reach out for a story we’re working on.”
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  1. The anecdotal Facebook responses to the network’s inquiry have been overwhelming and essentially the opposite of what was asked. Currently, the post has over 10K likes, almost 45K comments, and has been shared close to 50K times.
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One heartbreaking comment on the post references the adverse COVID-19 vaccine reaction suffered by a young man named Aaron Kalinowski, who was born 3½ months early. After Aaron’s birth, doctors told his mother “he had less than a 5 percent chance of surviving and that if he did, he would never walk, talk, eat on his own, and would be basically a vegetable (Yes, a Dr actually said that 25 years ago).”

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Despite spending much of his childhood in and out of hospitals for multiple illnesses and surgeries, Aaron continued to prove the doctors wrong. He graduated from American Broadcasting School with a 4.0 and hosted his own podcast called ‘Aaron’s Journey.’ In May 2020, as a highly functioning young man with Aspergers and cerebral palsy, Aaron moved out on his own into an assisted living facility. His mother commented:

“He was witty, intelligent, compassionate, wise, and cared deeply for those around him and our world,” adding, “In Feb 2021, that all changed when he got the Moderna Covid Vaccine.”

Another anecdotal comment, which has had over 9K reactions and close to 600 comments, declares, “My dad was hospitalized the day after his second dose, he had a fever and fluid on his lungs, that was back in February. He’s back in the hospital now with covid, several others where he lives all were vaccinated as well and sick with covid. How about telling these stories WXYZ-TV Channel 7.” Sharing in the frustration, another individual responded, saying, “Such poor reporting. I’m a nurse and most of the cases I’ve taken care of are vaccinated! I’ve seen a lot of patients with complications from the vaccines too!”

While there are also comments from individuals who are angry at and fearful of the unvaccinated, a common informal theme throughout the discussion is the expressed hope the testimonies documented throughout the network’s post “wakes them up and lets them see how much damage they are doing to their readers and viewers by misleading them and not including their stories of loss so others can make educated decisions.” Another comment, with close to 1K likes, appears to sum up the prevailing sentiment of many, avowing:
“… the insane amount of testimonies on this post proves that a lot more people are aware than I ever imagined. I’m just so sorry that the way most people had to learn was the loss of a loved one. All of this death is so unnecessary. The people who created this virus need to be locked up… that’s where all of the energy needs to be directed, finding them and letting justice be served!”
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Too bad this board can't be like the legitimate social media platforms that ban users who spread conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination propaganda.

Well, this would be a really lonely place, so nevermind. The delusional right needs a place to gather, play grabass and disseminate their falsehoods. SN seems to be it. By all means, carry on.
 
Tibs said:
Listen dumbass, I'll say this slowly and will repeat it a few times for good measure, given the solid concrete composition of your impenetrable, thick skull.

I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid.
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you seem to get very, very triggered when your baseless opinion is questioned.

 
Tibs said:
Too bad this board can't be like the legitimate social media platforms that ban users who spread conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination propaganda.

Well, this would be a really lonely place, so nevermind. The delusional right needs a place to gather, play grabass and disseminate their falsehoods. SN seems to be it. By all means, carry on.
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What has been posted you consider conspiracy theories in the last month? Come on man! this isn't religion everything being posted is being backed up by real doctors and real scientists. You don't get to scream heretic because they disagree with your religion of fear. What's next burning people at the stake for claiming the world is round and the sun doesn't revolve around the earth? You are better than this.
 
Tibs said:
Too bad this board can't be like the legitimate social media platforms that ban users who spread conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination propaganda.

Well, this would be a really lonely place, so nevermind. The delusional right needs a place to gather, play grabass and disseminate their falsehoods. SN seems to be it. By all means, carry on.
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right. because you'd be on the outside of the wall looking in. kinda like a reverse hungary.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
What has been posted you consider conspiracy theories in the last month? Come on man! this isn't religion everything being posted is being backed up by real doctors and real scientists. You don't get to scream heretic because they disagree with your religion of fear. What's next burning people at the stake for claiming the world is round and the sun doesn't revolve around the earth? You are better than this.
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@Tibs allow me to clear up this simple mind, otherwise known as @SteelerInLebanon

the sun revolves around @Tibs
 
Tibs said:
Too bad this board can't be like the legitimate social media platforms that ban users who spread conspiracy theories and anti-vaccination propaganda.

Well, this would be a really lonely place, so nevermind. The delusional right needs a place to gather, play grabass and disseminate their falsehoods. SN seems to be it. By all means, carry on.
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Your Rolling Stone Article and the plethora of other misinformation you spread says....

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SteelerInLebanon said:
What has been posted you consider conspiracy theories in the last month? Come on man! this isn't religion everything being posted is being backed up by real doctors and real scientists. You don't get to scream heretic because they disagree with your religion of fear. What's next burning people at the stake for claiming the world is round and the sun doesn't revolve around the earth? You are better than this.
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He'd like nothing better than this

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SteelerInLebanon said:
What has been posted you consider conspiracy theories in the last month? Come on man! this isn't religion everything being posted is being backed up by real doctors and real scientists. You don't get to scream heretic because they disagree with your religion of fear. What's next burning people at the stake for claiming the world is round and the sun doesn't revolve around the earth? You are better than this.
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There is one thing i can absolutely count on when discussing anything with Liberals these days…. That they decry everything they don’t believe in as a conspiracy theory or as counter logical anti science …. But then absolutely engulf themselves in conspiracy theories and echo chambers that dull logic… and completely dismiss anything that doesn’t align with their perspective

the same people who were posting vile anger over all the cheating they insisted was happening in Florida and elsewhere in 2020, and whom for 4 years vigilantly pounded the drum that Russian hacks changed votes in 2016, were a week after the election posting how voting fraud and tampering never happens…. Of course it does and both sides do it

or how absolutely proven and admitted things that happened in the past never could be happening again because “ conspiracies aren’t real”

of course they are real and probably more common than they expect. Its human nature to lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead… kill even in many cases. I will bet every single poster here has covered something up to stay out of trouble… it happens… frequently… and governments have a metric **** ton of historic proof that they do unethical things all the time…

tell a liberal that Bush invaded Iraq to steal oil and thats just good old facts… tell them that Regan traded arms to our enemies and they will 100% back that he knew and was complicit… say the exact same thing about Obama… conspiracy theory nonsense…

its just a way to trivialize concepts they don’t like thinking about
 
Tibs said:
Too bad this board can't be like the legitimate social media platforms that ban users who spread conspiracy theories ...
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How's that "Russia collusion" conspiracy theory holding up?

How about the "Capital Police Dept. sent a letter demanding a Congressional investigation" conspiracy theory?

How about the "Letitia James, hoo-boy, no time to prosecute murderers but she is going to get Trump indicted" conspiracy theory?

How about the "Trump's financial advisors are going to give the information leading to indictments" conspiracy theory?

Or the "Deutsche Bank records, oh man, it's OVER for Trump" conspiracy theory?

Like those, you mean? Want me to go on?

Word of advice, Tibilo: Presume others remember your numerous inane conspiracy theories and are vastly smarter than you. Because both points are true.
 
Tibs said:
Listen dumbass, I'll say this slowly and will repeat it a few times for good measure, given the solid concrete composition of your impenetrable, thick skull.

I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid, I've never had Covid, regularly test negative for covid, have 2x immunization shots, have negative covid tests, I don't have covid, I haven't spread it to anyone else, thus nobody's gotten covid from me, thus nobody's died because I spread covid to them, since I don't have covid.
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Holy ****, I'm not gonna count, but look at how many times you typed Covid in that rant.

Looney tunes.

iu
 
Steelworth said:
Holy ****, I'm not gonna count, but look at how many times you typed Covid in that rant.

Looney tunes.

iu
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Good to see Tibilo has broadened his horizons.

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Trump, Trump ... ehh, jab, jab, jab, jab
Jab, jab, jab, jab
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
www.healthline.com

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.
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Considering the high percentage of people with breakthrough cases I would say this vaccine is very leaky.
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No.

www.reuters.com

Fact Check-Delta variant did not come from the COVID-19 vaccine

Posts sharing the belief that the Delta variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 comes from vaccines are false.
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