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Covid Vaccine

Could these people have had Covid in the past and this is a long term side effect? Were all these people even vaccinated, what vax did they take?

Yes, nothing to see here. The vaccines are perfect. The fact that there were 605 reported deaths in VAERS from ALL vaccines combined in total 2019 and there are just 18,797 reported this year (a minor 3,007% increase) is nothing to bat an eye at. That's just...normal. Expected. Reports say just 1-10% of these are reported to VAERS, so it may likely be 180,797. But it's still just a small number. Tiny. Who cares?

It is all sheer coincidence that these athletes all suffered major issues or death. Seasoned, conditioned athletes.

I remember when Hank Gathers died on the basketball court and it shook the nation, because it was never before seen. So very rare. Everyone was in shock. Now? Everyone just brushes it off because they don't want to believe what is happening.
  • A 17 year old soccer player from JSG Hoher Hagen needed to be resuscitated during a game.
  • The Gifhorn amateur player Marvin Schumann had to be resuscitated during a game after a heart attack.
  • An assistant ref in the Kreisliga Augsburg game in Emersacker collapsed with heart issues.
  • A district league player of the SpVgg Oelde II had to be revived.
  • 17 year old Dylan Rich dies of a heart attack during a game in England.
  • The SV Niederporing goalkeeper suffers a heart attack after work outs.
Hell this **** happens every day. Just...normal. I mean, where you work, there are 1,400 cases of Covid among 93 staff. People drop dead every day.

I'm on Zoom meetings all day every day and I watch 'em drop like flies. Heart attacks errywhere. "There goes another one!" people say and we just carry on. New normal.

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About 2000 people under the age of 25 die every year from sudden cardiac death. There are a variety of causes. You show a video of stories of a few who died this way and it's supposed to prove what exactly?
To be fair, tge vaccines have been laboratory proven to affect heart cells. This is no longer in dispute and warnings are on the package as well as the cdc site for both Pfizzer and moderna… it seems to be more prevalent the younger you go

France just advised against moderna for anyone under 30 I believe… https://www.reuters.com/business/he...oderna-covid-19-vaccine-under-30s-2021-11-09/
 
Much of what is happening was warned about by numerous doctors in a variety of papers as tge mrna plan was coming out

Its not like this novel methodology went through the ten to twenty year process that completely new procedures for vaccines typically take to be certified…

Getting your body a viral protein isn’t a new concept… its fairly old, but the delivery system is totally new and has some potential drawbacks that we are ignoring

Nobody under 17 needs this. Correction, some really ill kids might… but lets just move on to 2nd gen vaccines

Novavax still gets you a protein to get your body to create antibodies, but it does so using the actual virus and the full protein not a fragment… it’s basically how they make most vaccines … its just time to move on past the mrna stuff…
 
Yes, nothing to see here. The vaccines are perfect. The fact that there were 605 reported deaths in VAERS from ALL vaccines combined in total 2019 and there are just 18,797 reported this year (a minor 3,007% increase) is nothing to bat an eye at. That's just...normal. Expected. Reports say just 1-10% of these are reported to VAERS, so it may likely be 180,797. But it's still just a small number. Tiny. Who cares?

It is all sheer coincidence that these athletes all suffered major issues or death. Seasoned, conditioned athletes.

I remember when Hank Gathers died on the basketball court and it shook the nation, because it was never before seen. So very rare. Everyone was in shock. Now? Everyone just brushes it off because they don't want to believe what is happening.
Could definitely be something there, but there is 0 evidence in the article. It doesn't even say how many were vaxxed or had covid previously which is obviously extremely important info if you want to make assumptions.
 
If the clot shot is safe then why do they make you sign a release of liability before they stab you with that poisonous ****? And why do people regularly die from it? Sheep...
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.
That is heartbreaking. So sorry for your loss.
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.


My sincere condolences. I truly sorry to hear it.

My anger is that China is 100% responsible for all of this everywhere. They have literally changed the entire planet with this lab bug. Yet crickets from everyone.
 
My sincere condolences. I truly sorry to hear it.

My anger is that China is 100% responsible for all of this everywhere. They have literally changed the entire planet with this lab bug. Yet crickets from everyone.
Not sure about 100%. We had some influence. How much is yet to be determined...
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.
So sorry to hear this Vader, tragic and it didn't have to happen.
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.
Dang man, so sorry to hear that. Sympathies from me and my family to you and yours.
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.
I'm very sorry for your loss, Vader. My condolences to you and your family.
 
Pure, utter coincidence. They are soccer players. Not conditioned, they don't have strong hearts, clearly weak people.


German Media Reports 'Puzzling' Surge in Heart Disease Among Soccer Players​

What could possibly be causing "an unusually large" number of professional and amateur soccer players to collapse on the field with heart problems?

The Berliner Zeitung doesn't have a clue.





From The Berliner Zeitung (as translated by Google):

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The obvious suspect is not even mentioned once in the entire article.

Just like the surge in hospital patients in America, Australia and Sweden who are "sicker than ever" but do not have covid -- this is just one of life's eternal mysteries!

You do know Eriksen, the most high profile of these, was confirmed to NOT have been vaccinated, right? Is there any demonstrated link to vaccination to any of these stories, or did someone just gather up a bunch of unrelated events and try to insinuate vaccines caused them? Did anyone bother to check how many of them were vaccinated, or even how many of them may have had covid, which can also cause myocarditis (like many other viral illnesses?)
 
To be fair, tge vaccines have been laboratory proven to affect heart cells. This is no longer in dispute and warnings are on the package as well as the cdc site for both Pfizzer and moderna… it seems to be more prevalent the younger you go

France just advised against moderna for anyone under 30 I believe… https://www.reuters.com/business/he...oderna-covid-19-vaccine-under-30s-2021-11-09/
There is a very slight increase in myocarditis and pericarditis among vaccinated people vs. unvaccinated. That is proven and I have acknowledged it. It remains rare. I do believe that for people, especially young healthy people, who have already had covid the slight increased risk of myocarditis means they probably shouldn't get it. It should be noted however that covid can also cause myocarditis, like many other viral illnesses.
 
My wife just died of covid yesterday. She was obese and had asthma. I've seen people die before but it's different when it's your wife. I'm not going to debate the vax because I've know people that died of covid that had the vax. 75% of the covid unit at the hospital here were vaxed. The head nurse told me that. Fact is that with or without the vax you can catch it and die. China should be punished for this outrage. But they won't be. Business as usual... and now I have to bury my wife.
My sincere condolences. Im so sorry.
 
Not sure about 100%. We had some influence. How much is yet to be determined...

They created it in their lab in China. We funded it. Ok,so our government is responsible too. Scumbags like Dr.EvilFucki are responsible. From what I've heard they have two other viruses that are catestrophicly much more deadly that they worked on with a 30% and 70% kill ratio. The objective is for it to be engineered to kill only non Chinese. Which would be no easy task to accomplishing a bioweapon with distinct genetic selection. If that objective is ever achieved, it would be the greatest weapon ever invented. Far superior to nuclear weapons. They wouldn't even need to use it either. Only the threat of it would get anyone enslaved to you. Zero destruction outside of human fatalities.



Never ever ever underestimate a communist nation. They do not play by the rules the rest of the world does.
It is pretty clear the United States doesn't fully play by the rules either. This last election and lab cocktail No.19 taught me that. It also showed me our rights are only loaned to us at our governments leisure.

If we gained the knowledge that is kept secret from us by our own government, we'd agree. We've had little tastes of truth from whistleblowers or defectors. Which quickly get buried.

But we're all too busy with multiple created diversions to focus on what's really going on.

Out of my hands,so all I do is wait. I see a lot of patriotic freedom&liberty loving Americans stepping up for duty in many public office positions, so it gives me a sliver of hope.


I am tired of seeing liars and deceivers on tv. I'm sick of seeing them say one thing and do another in regards to this man made virus. I'm over it. All of it.
 
And you're going to question a young girl on her intentions here - but not raise a single question about Big Pharma and our Government who actually have everything in the world to gain?
You believe pharmaceutical companies staffed by educated professionals are all lying and purposely killing and injuring people to make money. But you don't believe that random people on the internet with political agendas are likely to produce disinformation or distort facts to support their conspiracy theories.
 
They created it in their lab in China. We funded it. Ok,so our government is responsible too. Scumbags like Dr.EvilFucki are responsible. From what I've heard they have two other viruses that are catestrophicly much more deadly that they worked on with a 30% and 70% kill ratio. The objective is for it to be engineered to kill only non Chinese. Which would be no easy task to accomplishing a bioweapon with distinct genetic selection. If that objective is ever achieved, it would be the greatest weapon ever invented. Far superior to nuclear weapons. They wouldn't even need to use it either. Only the threat of it would get anyone enslaved to you. Zero destruction outside of human fatalities.



Never ever ever underestimate a communist nation. They do not play by the rules the rest of the world does.
It is pretty clear the United States doesn't fully play by the rules either. This last election and lab cocktail No.19 taught me that. It also showed me our rights are only loaned to us at our governments leisure.

If we gained the knowledge that is kept secret from us by our own government, we'd agree. We've had little tastes of truth from whistleblowers or defectors. Which quickly get buried.

But we're all too busy with multiple created diversions to focus on what's really going on.

Out of my hands,so all I do is wait. I see a lot of patriotic freedom&liberty loving Americans stepping up for duty in many public office positions, so it gives me a sliver of hope.


I am tired of seeing liars and deceivers on tv. I'm sick of seeing them say one thing and do another in regards to this man made virus. I'm over it. All of it.
I remember the good old days when chemical weapons were thought to be too inhumane for wartime much less peacetime.

Well I guess we need to engineer a virus that will only kill Chinese. We can't have a Virus-gap... Maybe the Chinese will make it for us. ;)

I say that last part in jest but whoever thinks this **** up and actually makes this a goal (engineering a virus that can wipe out humanity) needs to be strung up not supported by tax payer dollars.

The aliens that visit this planet in a million years are sure to wonder what happened... Bunch of idiots went off and killed themselves with a virus.
 
Yes, nothing to see here. The vaccines are perfect. The fact that there were 605 reported deaths in VAERS from ALL vaccines combined in total 2019 and there are just 18,797 reported this year (a minor 3,007% increase) is nothing to bat an eye at. That's just...normal. Expected. Reports say just 1-10% of these are reported to VAERS, so it may likely be 180,797. But it's still just a small number. Tiny. Who cares?

It is all sheer coincidence that these athletes all suffered major issues or death. Seasoned, conditioned athletes.

I remember when Hank Gathers died on the basketball court and it shook the nation, because it was never before seen. So very rare. Everyone was in shock. Now? Everyone just brushes it off because they don't want to believe what is happening.
  • A 17 year old soccer player from JSG Hoher Hagen needed to be resuscitated during a game.
  • The Gifhorn amateur player Marvin Schumann had to be resuscitated during a game after a heart attack.
  • An assistant ref in the Kreisliga Augsburg game in Emersacker collapsed with heart issues.
  • A district league player of the SpVgg Oelde II had to be revived.
  • 17 year old Dylan Rich dies of a heart attack during a game in England.
  • The SV Niederporing goalkeeper suffers a heart attack after work outs.
Hell this **** happens every day. Just...normal. I mean, where you work, there are 1,400 cases of Covid among 93 staff. People drop dead every day.

I'm on Zoom meetings all day every day and I watch 'em drop like flies. Heart attacks errywhere. "There goes another one!" people say and we just carry on. New normal.

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Again, 2000 young people die every year in this country alone from sudden cardiac events. Who knows how many suffer cardiac events every year and don't die. There are a variety of causes for these events. Your own article states that in people over the age of 35, the vast majority of them are caused by coronary artery disease.

Very few of them made national news in the past. And you are completely ignoring the fact that covid has spread like wildfire across Europe and can also cause heart issues and clotting problems.
 
My point remains that I believe we need a vaccine but its wholly idiotic to use the same untested methodology on the bulk of tge population

There are dozens of vaccines in use around the world. China doesn’t use mrna at all..
but besides that there are all sorts of thenm developed or in development.

Here is a basic breakdown of vaccine methods from a while ago

As far as i know, only india is using a true DNA vaccine

The mrna is being used by everyone except china

The whole virus ones are in use in some countries…

Every vaccine is generally trying to do the same thing, get your immune system to recognize the virus and develop a quick immune response that eliminates it before it can do harm

The MRNA methodology still has kinks… its just too new and we really have no idea what happens with it ten years down the road. Moreover the protein fragment they are using isn’t as complete as it should be

The second gen vaccines are mostly based on dead or weakened viruses… these give a more complete immunity especially against variants… the methodology has decades of data so we know the minimal side effects that come from them


Im not antivax as much as I think by midsummer last year we should have been moving on from those original vaccines…

The holdup on these second gen vaccines are mostly production questions, which we could have expedited as we did with the other three…
 
My point remains that I believe we need a vaccine but its wholly idiotic to use the same untested methodology on the bulk of tge population

There are dozens of vaccines in use around the world. China doesn’t use mrna at all..
but besides that there are all sorts of thenm developed or in development.

Here is a basic breakdown of vaccine methods from a while ago

As far as i know, only india is using a true DNA vaccine

The mrna is being used by everyone except china

The whole virus ones are in use in some countries…

Every vaccine is generally trying to do the same thing, get your immune system to recognize the virus and develop a quick immune response that eliminates it before it can do harm

The MRNA methodology still has kinks… its just too new and we really have no idea what happens with it ten years down the road. Moreover the protein fragment they are using isn’t as complete as it should be

The second gen vaccines are mostly based on dead or weakened viruses… these give a more complete immunity especially against variants… the methodology has decades of data so we know the minimal side effects that come from them


Im not antivax as much as I think by midsummer last year we should have been moving on from those original vaccines…

The holdup on these second gen vaccines are mostly production questions, which we could have expedited as we did with the other three…
I certainly hope we come up with more effective and lasting vaccines. You'll get no argument from me there. Unfortunately these are the best we've got right now.

The vast majority of adverse events are caused by the immune system's reaction to the vaccine. Every vaccine can cause theses types of reactions in some people, by the very nature of what vaccines are designed to do. (Numerous vaccines have some increased risk of myocarditis, including smallpox and measles). I won't argue that different vaccines might one day work better,

My main point in entering these discussions at all is to argue that the safety concerns are being exaggerated and distorted to the point that some people who really should be getting the vaccines, some people for whom the benefits far outweigh the risks, are not getting them. I personally know someone who died because of this. That bothers me a lot.
 
I really appreciate all your condolences. I went through a divorce over 10 years ago. Then I met my best friend and we married a little over a year later. She was the only person that I could really tell ever loved me. She did have health issues but she never let that get in the way of being there for me. She would write me love notes and put them in my lunch when I would leave for school. I wish everyone could have someone like that in their life even for only a brief moment. We almost never had disagreements. Never had a huge fight. It was wonderful. If not for my faith in the Lord I couldn't make it through this. I hate this world but I know it won't last forever.
 
I remember the good old days when chemical weapons were thought to be too inhumane for wartime much less peacetime.

Well I guess we need to engineer a virus that will only kill Chinese. We can't have a Virus-gap... Maybe the Chinese will make it for us. ;)
The problem with a virus, is that they mutate. What is to stop it from mutating to kill others? Including Chinese.
 
I certainly hope we come up with more effective and lasting vaccines. You'll get no argument from me there. Unfortunately these are the best we've got right now.

The vast majority of adverse events are caused by the immune system's reaction to the vaccine. Every vaccine can cause theses types of reactions in some people, by the very nature of what vaccines are designed to do. (Numerous vaccines have some increased risk of myocarditis, including smallpox and measles). I won't argue that different vaccines might one day work better,

My main point in entering these discussions at all is to argue that the safety concerns are being exaggerated and distorted to the point that some people who really should be getting the vaccines, some people for whom the benefits far outweigh the risks, are not getting them. I personally know someone who died because of this. That bothers me a lot.
I don’t deny that it can be deadly… i just had a dozen doctors basically tell me that I wasn’t expected to make it a couple weeks ago.. they called my family and told them that the chances of me pulling through were not good, and worse if they had to ventilate and cauterize me… so i get how scary this thing can be..

I had both of my parents get it, but young people without any other illness don’t need it… and frankly the potential problems down the road scare tge **** out of me

The study they quoted to call it safe for pregnancy was discredited last week… the observational datas math was wrong… they truly have no clue on a lot of this stuff and it’s irresponsible that thry are trying to rush it out to everyone before they really know its safe

If the older generations all end up with one of the potential long term issues down the road, it really doesn’t affect long term population much, but if something happens to the young population we are ******.

It would be way better to play it safe there and use methodology that’s been long proven.
 
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