Covid Vaccine

[Steelr4evr]

Correction.

It is NOVEL virus, first appearing in 2019.

That is why the US government spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, then lied about that spending, on "research" on coronaviruses,in the unsafe institution in the same city where this NOVEL coronavirus came from.

Has anyone asked why Duke University stopped its joint virus program with Wuhan in 2015?

Raises ...maybe because they took it in the direction of making it a weapon. They started altering its structure to make it transmittable to humans.


This entire world pandemic and all of it's dead and injured is all on them 100%.

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Tibs]

Not sure why I bother, when folks like Tim Steelersfan will only swat it away and start spewing a litany of bullshit alternative facts. But maybe, just maybe, it'll save his life and help protect his family members. So here it goes:

People should still get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID-19, health agencies and medical experts say

According to medical experts and health agencies, people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to the CDC.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Not sure why I bother, when folks like Tim Steelersfan will only swat it away and start spewing a litany of bullshit alternative facts. But maybe, just maybe, it'll save his life and help protect his family members. So here it goes:

People should still get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID-19, health agencies and medical experts say

According to medical experts and health agencies, people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to the CDC.

You trust the CDC? Real science says that is not correct.

 

[Steelworth]

Not sure why I bother

Then don't.

 

[Troglodyte]

You trust the CDC? Real science says that is not correct.

Do you really think you get get up in front of CDC officials and explain what you mean by this without making a complete *** of yourself?

 

[Confluence]

Raises ...maybe because they took it in the direction of making it a weapon. They started altering its structure to make it transmittable to humans.


This entire world pandemic and all of it's dead and injured is all on them 100%.

It's kinda weird that folks in NC, and SC knew of this in March 2020.....so a bunch of other people also knew.....I wonder who was the US overseer of the funding to Wuhan?

Do you really think you get get up in front of CDC officials and explain what you mean by this without making a complete *** of yourself?

You do that here with every post you make

 

[Sarge]

Not sure why I bother, when folks like Tim Steelersfan will only swat it away and start spewing a litany of bullshit alternative facts. But maybe, just maybe, it'll save his life and help protect his family members. So here it goes:

People should still get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID-19, health agencies and medical experts say

According to medical experts and health agencies, people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to the CDC.

Immunity is more than anitbodies. You have memory B cells and T cells that remember **** you have been infected with, and they render your body able to form an immune response even after antibodies are no longer prevalent in your blood.

Covid immunity is about more than antibodies — here's what else helps protect you

Antibody levels are just one factor that determines how protected you are against Covid and its variants. Here are the other elements that work together once you're vaccinated.

www.cnbc.com

From the article.....

There are various kinds of B cells and T cells that work in complex ways (memory B cells, for example, are a subset of B cells that develop after an infection). But essentially, B and T cells are long-lived and can outlast antibodies.

“B cells and T cells are alive, so [they] can divide and turn into memory cells and other cell types that can last for many years and react when an infection is again encountered,” Kaul says. Antibodies, which are produced by B cells, are not capable of reproducing, so levels tend to go down with time if the infection is not encountered, he says.

B cells, on the other hand, will continue to sustain some level of circulating antibodies for a prolonged period of time, Kaul says. So, just because there is not a certain level of antibodies in a person’s blood, does not mean immunity is lost.

The human body is an amazing machine, capable of fighting off a plethora of bad actors. I'm just not sure why suddenly with COVID 19 that the body's immune response to reinfection, which based on everything I've read is similar to the protection a vaccine provides, is suddenly not good enough.

 

[Tibs]

You trust the CDC? Real science says that is not correct.

You're suggesting the CDC doesn't operate within the realms of *real science?*

 

[Steelworth]

You do that here with every post you make

 

[Steelworth]

You're suggesting the CDC doesn't operate within the realms of *real science?*

Well, they're a politicized government agency who's gotten so much wrong on this virus so far, so yeah, he has a point. I can understand why people are skeptical with their track record up to this point.

 

[Steelworth]

So the vast majority of education administrators are opposing mandated vaccination for their teachers? Well, if so, good for them for getting this one right.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

So the vast majority of education administrators are opposing mandated vaccination for their teachers? Well, if so, good for them for getting this one right.

But, they don’t want to go back to schools either.

 

[Booted]

The reality is this pandemic has always been and will continue to be as serious as Fauci, the media, the CDC, health & medical experts and yes, folks like Trog & I have been stating from the very beginning. Particularly true for what is currently happening with the Delta variant, here and around the world.

. Be real ******* careful when reading posts on this board. There is so much disinformation & right wing propanda being disseminated here, you could fill the Grand Canyon with it.

 

[Steelworth]

Be real ******* careful when reading posts on this board. There is so much disinformation & right wing propanda being disseminated here, you could fill the Grand Canyon with it.

Just saw this troll post because Booted quoted it.

For the 100th time, if that's your belief, why the hell are you here then?

P.S. I'll be careful to look out for that "propanda" (people who like pandas?)

 

[Steelworth]

The powers that be don't really care about your vaccination status Rapaport (you're not a member of the club) - you're starting to see that's abundantly clear though it looks:

 

[Confluence]

But, they don’t want to go back to schools either.

i cannot recall any union organization that wanted more work per member.

 

[Confluence]

The powers that be don't really care about your vaccination status Rapaport (you're not a member of the club) - you're starting to see that's abundantly clear though it looks:

Is that a Hungarian?

 

[hamster]

I trust nothing coming out of Washington, including the CDC.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

I trust nothing coming out of Washington, including the CDC.

This. All day. And this is me and why I am where I am.

 

[JMM]

When MAGA goes wild. Least surprising turn of events. Who didn’t see this coming, with the constant hateful, threatening rhetoric on the right. It’s just a matter of time…

Man Facing Federal Charges for Allegedly Sending Threatening Emails to Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis Collins at the National Institutes of Health

A federal criminal complaint has been filed charging Thomas Patrick Connally, Jr., age 56, for the federal charges of threats against a federal official and interstate communication containing a threat to harm, specifically for sending emails threatening harm to Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Francis...

www.justice.gov

 

[Steelworth]

Not even sure what some nutjob sending threatening emails to Fraudci has to do with the Covid vaccine, but trolls gotta troll I guess.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Just saw this troll post because Booted quoted it.

For the 100th time, if that's your belief, why the hell are you here then?

P.S. I'll be careful to look out for that "propanda" (people who like pandas?)

He's a ******* moron in Hungaria. He's been in that country for probably 25 years or more. He is genuinely out of touch with reality here.

 

[madinsomniac]

The Second-Generation COVID Vaccines Are Coming

After Pfizer and Moderna, a slew of other candidates could fill gaps in efficacy, production or distribution

www.scientificamerican.com

As the real scientist in this pointed out, the MRNA vaccines and early first gen ones in general had a metric ton of questions with them that nobody knew or really knows the answer to… if fact the superspreader scenario that was spelled out in this article looks to actually be happening….

there are several vaccines that will be coming out shortly that most here should be very comfortable with… Tim is right… the science says that almost everyone who catches covid is immune for at least 11 months and maybe more… demanding people get the least tested vaccines is just asinine jackassery…. It’s clearly trying to maximize profits to these companies before competing vaccines water down the market…

i will bet money right now that the first bad side effect from either mrna vaccine and the left wingers here and in the media will be demonizing Trump for bribing them a billion each to rush those out… and totally ignoring their own role in pushing them on everyone so doggedly…

Patience is a virtue and the math says let it ride. It will be fine.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

The Second-Generation COVID Vaccines Are Coming

After Pfizer and Moderna, a slew of other candidates could fill gaps in efficacy, production or distribution

www.scientificamerican.com

As the real scientist in this pointed out, the MRNA vaccines and early first gen ones in general had a metric ton of questions with them that nobody knew or really knows the answer to… if fact the superspreader scenario that was spelled out in this article looks to actually be happening….

there are several vaccines that will be coming out shortly that most here should be very comfortable with… Tim is right… the science says that almost everyone who catches covid is immune for at least 11 months and maybe more… demanding people get the least tested vaccines is just asinine jackassery…. It’s clearly trying to maximize profits to these companies before competing vaccines water down the market…

i will bet money right now that the first bad side effect from either mrna vaccine and the left wingers here and in the media will be demonizing Trump for bribing them a billion each to rush those out… and totally ignoring their own role in pushing them on everyone so doggedly…

Patience is a virtue and the math says let it ride. It will be fine.

Keep the fear machine running. Cases are up!!!! Lock yourself up, keep you kinds locked up, wear a bubble if you go out!!! How’s the death rate….”science denier”.