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Covid Vaccine

Tibs said:
Not sure why I bother, when folks like Tim Steelersfan will only swat it away and start spewing a litany of bullshit alternative facts. But maybe, just maybe, it'll save his life and help protect his family members. So here it goes:

People should still get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID-19, health agencies and medical experts say

According to medical experts and health agencies, people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to the CDC.

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I'll bet you masturbate reading Mein Kampf
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
wear a bubble if you go out
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Floggy, to his dismay, has to take off his mask while he eats

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Tibs said:
Not sure why I bother, when folks like Tim Steelersfan will only swat it away and start spewing a litany of bullshit alternative facts. But maybe, just maybe, it'll save his life and help protect his family members. So here it goes:

People should still get vaccinated even if they’ve already had COVID-19, health agencies and medical experts say

According to medical experts and health agencies, people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is. Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID-19, according to the CDC.

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Instead of regurgitating CDC talking points, could you ever...for once...analyze it first?

Look at the ******* words they use.

"According to medical experts and health agencies..." ---- Which ones?

"people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is" --- According to what data? EVERY study so far on natural immunity is that it is lasting. LONG lasting so far. 11 months in, people still have the antibodies. And as Sarge schooled you, the body once infected has T and B cells that learn and mobilize the immune system again in the future even if you don't have antibodies.

"Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID." --- ******* fantastic. What studies? Also... WHY DO THEY NEED THE BOOST? Why? Simply because they don't know how long immunity lasts, but every study so far out there says...it...lasts? Provide me some concrete evidence please CDC.

Can you point to me how many people have had COVID, got re-infected, and died?

Yup, didn't think so.

The CDC is a ******* sham right the moment.

Think Tibs. Use critical ******* thinking for once and read what you are being presented with. They provided you NO details, no substance, no names, no studies. I clicked the link. There is bubkus there.
 
Steelr4evr said:
He's a ******* moron in Hungaria. He's been in that country for probably 25 years or more. He is genuinely out of touch with reality here.
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Tim Steelersfan said:
Instead of regurgitating CDC talking points, could you ever...for once...analyze it first?

Look at the ******* words they use.

"According to medical experts and health agencies..." ---- Which ones?

"people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is" --- According to what data? EVERY study so far on natural immunity is that it is lasting. LONG lasting so far. 11 months in, people still have the antibodies. And as Sarge schooled you, the body once infected has T and B cells that learn and mobilize the immune system again in the future even if you don't have antibodies.

"Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID." --- ******* fantastic. What studies? Also... WHY DO THEY NEED THE BOOST? Why? Simply because they don't know how long immunity lasts, but every study so far out there says...it...lasts? Provide me some concrete evidence please CDC.

Can you point to me how many people have had COVID, got re-infected, and died?

Yup, didn't think so.

The CDC is a ******* sham right the moment.

Think Tibs. Use critical ******* thinking for once and read what you are being presented with. They provided you NO details, no substance, no names, no studies. I clicked the link. There is bubkus there.
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Look up the john hopkins study on post covid immunity…. Its never talked about because it didn’t fit the narrative
 
ZonaBurgh said:
CDC recommends you cook your steak to a minimum of 145 degrees, so no medium-rare for you!
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Now I officially hate them.

Rare or medium rare. Period.

I bet Liberals want to dictate how I cook my beef too.
 
Troglodyte said:
Do you really think you get get up in front of CDC officials and explain what you mean by this without making a complete *** of yourself?
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They make ***** out of themselves everyday! What would be the difference? They use studies rejected by peer review based on vaccines not used here to make bad decisions, what bigger ***** could they be?
 
"Because the CDC said so." That is the argument by Tibilo and Floggy about the naturally immune getting the vaccine, the efficacy of the vaccine.

Here are some other things the CDC told us:
  • The Chinese flu spreads via droplets, not airborne transmission, so the 6' distancing protects us.
  • The Chinese flu spread airborne so the 6' distancing is bullshit.
  • Those with natural immunity need the vaccine.
  • Those with natural immunity need the vaccine because ... I TOLD YOU SO!
  • Masks don't work.
  • Masks work.
  • Masks not needed for the vaccinated.
  • Masks needed for the vaccinated.
  • The Chinese flu could not have been made in a lab.
  • The Chinese flu could have been made in a lab.
  • The Chinese flu was probably made in a lab.
  • Schools should be closed because children can catch and spread the Chinese flu.
  • Schools should re-open because children have almost no risk from the Chinese flu.
  • Schools should remain closed because the teacher's union told us so.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Use critical ******* thinking for once and read what you are being presented with. They provided you NO details, no substance, no names, no studies. I clicked the link. There is bubkus there.
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Have it your way. Stay safe, man.
 
Damn, just damn. A month or two ago, I thought we'd turned the corner and could finally breathe a sigh of relief. I was skeptical that Covid would still be around this fall. Seeing the data from the past few weeks, that is now entirely conceivable. At this rate, if the situation continues to deteriorate, we'll be back in a bad, bad place in no time. In many States, that's already the stark reality.

Masks & vaccinations are turning out to be no sure thing, simply a mitigating factor in reducing the severity of the illness. It can keep you out of a hospital and keep you from dying. That in itself should motivate everyone to step up and do whatever they can to keep themselves, their families and the rest of society safe as can be. Let's stop splitting hairs and making strawman arguments. Nothing is guaranteed, there is no foolproof solution here, but every little bit helps to keep the virus from spreading and mutating.

thehill.com

In shocking news, US has highest number of new cases in the world

New cases increased 131 percent.
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The U.S. reported the highest number of new COVID-19 infections in the world in the last week as the delta variant fuels a surge of new cases, according to the World Health Organization (WHO).

The WHO’s latest epidemiological report shows the U.S. tallied 500,332 new cases for the week ending July 25. That’s a 131-percent increase in new infections compared with the week prior.

The U.S. was followed by Brazil, Indonesia, the United Kingdom and India.

The global number of new infections was up 8 percent, with more than 3.8 million new cases.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Instead of regurgitating CDC talking points, could you ever...for once...analyze it first?

Look at the ******* words they use.

"According to medical experts and health agencies..." ---- Which ones?

"people should get vaccinated regardless of whether they have previously been infected with COVID-19 because it remains unclear how strong or long-lasting the protection from natural antibodies is" --- According to what data? EVERY study so far on natural immunity is that it is lasting. LONG lasting so far. 11 months in, people still have the antibodies. And as Sarge schooled you, the body once infected has T and B cells that learn and mobilize the immune system again in the future even if you don't have antibodies.

"Studies have shown that vaccination provides a strong boost in protection in people who have recovered from COVID." --- ******* fantastic. What studies? Also... WHY DO THEY NEED THE BOOST? Why? Simply because they don't know how long immunity lasts, but every study so far out there says...it...lasts? Provide me some concrete evidence please CDC.

Can you point to me how many people have had COVID, got re-infected, and died?

Yup, didn't think so.

The CDC is a ******* sham right the moment.

Think Tibs. Use critical ******* thinking for once and read what you are being presented with. They provided you NO details, no substance, no names, no studies. I clicked the link. There is bubkus there.
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How about before you set the CDC straight, you go back and read your own posts from earlier this MONTH and set yourself straight?

You would neither understand or appreciate any details the MEDICAL DOCTORS at the CDC provided you. They didn’t dedicate decades of their lives becoming more educated and successful than you for the purpose of attempting to deceive you.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
You may try working on embedding images. A monkey could do it.

Meanwhile, perspective....

What exactly is cases rising to you? One day? Analyzing the space of a week? A month? Here's been our case loads (still minute - 16,812 cases is 336 cases per state - wow!)

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Cases rose 3.4% OFFSET by deaths falling 25%. It's the flu bro.

May 1 - 48,313 cases reported; 7-day average was 50,278 cases
June 1 - 19,870 cases reported; 7-day average was 17,514 cases
June 15 - 14,166 cases reported; 7-day average was 13,530 cases
June 30 - 11,475 cases reported; 7-day average was 13,270 cases
July 7 - 19,917 cases reported; 7-day average was 13,727 cases

Wow, to quote Tibs, it's a RAGING INFERNO. Our 7 day trends as of yesterday are directly in line with where we were on June 15, and less than where we were June 1 and SUBSTANTIALLY less than where we were May 1.

Still incredibly sick to see each of you rooting for higher case loads.

And the Delta variant is hayfever-like. Why the fear?
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Here you go, Tim. This is your perspective and insight from just three weeks ago. Maybe forward this to the folks at the CDC, I’m sure they’d be impressed.
 
BREAKING: AdventHealth hospital system puts Central Florida Division on code black due to surge in coronavirus patients. Jul 30, 2021

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Perfect summation of our resident, self-declared global pandemic *experts,* Tim Steelersfan & Steeltime. Take it away, fellas:

 
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We've actually changed the definition of vaccine for COVID 19.

From the CDC:

VACCINE: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

IMMUNITY: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

COVID 19 Vaccine: The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated where community transmission of the virus is widespread. Vaccinated people could potentially still become infected and spread the virus to others.

Doesn't sound much like a vaccine at all.
 
Sarge said:
We've actually changed the definition of vaccine for COVID 19.

From the CDC:

VACCINE: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

IMMUNITY: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

COVID 19 Vaccine: The risks of SARS-CoV-2 infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated where community transmission of the virus is widespread. Vaccinated people could potentially still become infected and spread the virus to others.

Doesn't sound much like a vaccine at all.
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Because it isn’t a vaccine. It’s an experimental gene treatment.
 
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