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oneforthebus said:
I’m not sure what your point is about prevalence. I mean, no one is arguing pedo clergy members are ok or were not a serious problem. Are there a lot of trans people exposing themselves to children? Not currently. It's something people are trying to prevent. Obviously if anyone can call themselves a woman and access private women's and girls' spaces, there are people who will (and have) taken advantage of that. The "obsession" or backlash is what's preventing this practice from becoming more widespread. What is your argument, it's not that prevalent (yet) therefore we shouldn't speak up and try to prevent it?

Again, no one's arguing clergy members should have unfettered access to children in vulnerable spaces. In fact the Church has taken many steps to ensure this is never allowed...as a volunteer with children I underwent extensive child abuse training, including being trained never to be alone in a room one on one with a child while on Church business. There are however, loud screeching voices demanding we let any man who puts on women's clothes or lipstick call himself a woman and access private female spaces including locker rooms where little girls shower and change.

No all transpeople are not pedos. Never said they were and it is irrelevant to the discussion. How adults want to live or dress or act is none of my business, until their actions start to infringe on the rights of others. Dress like a woman if you want, you don't have the right to demand that I accept you as a woman, especially where private, vulnerable spaces are concerned.
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You're about to get pulled into the Flog Vortex of Dumb.
 
Troglodyte said:
Someone who can sexually assault women and go into teenage girls dressing rooms. Are you denying he’s on tape saying it?
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Here's your pedophile Trog.

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Tim Steelersfan said:
YOUR typical liberal sources (like Snopes) have fact checked all of these historical claims. I'm providing you the current, accepted stance on these claims. But you keep clinging to the misleading, social media sources that bend the truth to fit your narrative.
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Current accepted stance according to who?
 
Hypocycloids said:
No, not really.
Stories told, jailed and pardoned. Its water under the bridge….and what you think I should be concerned with doesn’t excuse your TDS.
What we have in Minnesota is entirely different, still under investigation and has far more serious implications. We are talking billions here from both state and federal tax dollars, much of it siphoned off to terrorist organizations.
Agree?
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Nonsense. Gentile’s fraud was $1.6 Billion alone. The terrorism funding is speculation.
 
oneforthebus said:
It's been a long time, but there have been lengthy discussions about priests and pedophilia here. I'm Catholic, Catholics like myself are as appalled and disgusted by it as anyone else. No one here has ever defended Catholic priest pedophiles, it's not exactly a controversial topic where there's room for debate. I'm personally ambivalent about the capital C Church because of it, I remain in my local church because we actually do good things for people and that's important to me. The capital C Church also does an awful lot of good in the world, not that it negates this specific evil. I personally believe priests should be allowed to marry and women should be allowed to be priests. It's caused me to strongly consider leaving Catholicism for the Episcopal church, hard as that may be due to the relationships I've built.

Now if you're outraged by pedo priests but you're ok with a grown man putting on lipstick, calling himself a woman and exposing his penis to little girls in showers and locker rooms you might be a hypocrite.
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A priest does not want to get married, nor should he be according to Christ. He has devoted his life to the kingdom of God.

Luke 18:29-30
Yes, Jesus replied. “I assure you everyone who has given up house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God, will be repaid many times over in this life, and will have eternal life in the world to come.”

This is just one example of the many thru out the old and New Testament.

I am also Catholic and they have blessed my life and saved my life. Like you have said, the Catholic Church helps thousands of lives every day, every year.

Trog is very confused. I wish he would take out his child protection instincts on the democrat party, as they are harming children by the thousands with their policies.
Including their Covid lock downs and how the hole thing was handled.
 
Steelersreign said:
A priest does not want to get married, nor should he be according to Christ. He has devoted his life to the kingdom of God.

Luke 18:29-30
Yes, Jesus replied. “I assure you everyone who has given up house or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God, will be repaid many times over in this life, and will have eternal life in the world to come.”

This is just one example of the many thru out the old and New Testament.

I am also Catholic and they have blessed my life and saved my life. Like you have said, the Catholic Church helps thousands of lives every day, every year.

Trog is very confused. I wish he would take out his child protection instincts on the democrat party, as they are harming children by the thousands with their policies.
Including their Covid lock downs and how the hole thing was handled.
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There are plenty of great priests, unfortunately the celibacy requirement also attracted a lot of men seeking a cover for their abnormal sexual proclivities. That’s a fatal flaw IMO.
 
Troglodyte said:
Nonsense. Gentile’s fraud was $1.6 Billion alone. The terrorism funding is speculation.
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And there you go again, off in another direction. Regardless of how much was defrauded, it doesn’t negate my point.
And your right, terrorism funding is speculation, and the possibility that it may be happening is why we talk about it.
 
Troglodyte said:
Right, if Trump campaign denies something, you choose to believe it. You choose to believe he was lying to Billy Bush


The Stern interview isn’t social media posts.
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If the Trump campaign denies something and we believe it, it’s because it can be backed up with evidence from other sources. Posted here by Tim for all to see.
That being the case you should believe it as well but your TDS shuts it down.
 
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Hypocycloids said:
And there you go again, off in another direction. Regardless of how much was defrauded, it doesn’t negate my point.
And your right, terrorism funding is speculation, and the possibility that it may be happening is why we talk about it.
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No, this does…

 
Hypocycloids said:
If the Trump campaign denies something and we believe it, it’s because it can be backed up with evidence from other sources. Posted here by Tim for all to see.
That being the case you should believe it as well but your TDS shuts it down.
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The sources you refer to?
 
Troglodyte said:
The sources you refer to?
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Point taken. It’s the fact that the bs you so badly want to believe is true cannot be confirmed to be true.

  • Fact-checkers have pointed out that social media posts often misattribute Trump's Howard Stern Show comments about undressed adult contestants to the Miss Teen USA pageant, sometimes adding specific age ranges that were not in his original statement.
 
Troglodyte said:
No, this does…

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This fraud is exactly why the federal government should not be involved in things like subsidizing child care in Minnesota. Why is this even a thing? Our federal government is too big, too costly and too inefficient. Who knows how much of this type of fraud is going on all over the country?
 
oneforthebus said:
This fraud is exactly why the federal government should not be involved in things like subsidizing child care in Minnesota. Why is this even a thing? Our federal government is too big, too costly and too inefficient. Who knows how much of this type of fraud is going on all over the country?
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wait until the microscope moves to Commiefornia. oh boy.
 
Superman said:
wait until the microscope moves to Commiefornia. oh boy.
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And New York, Michigan, Illinois, Oregon, hell, probably in every Dim run state and city. Time to abolish income tax and property tax. Stop the fraud cold turkey.
 
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