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That next wave is rolling in.
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That next wave is rolling in.
Would have been better if that was a women gif. I got hard.
Wow, I guess there are a lotta Trump voters in England, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Netherlands and Indonesia.
Or just another sick Liberal rooting for COVID to strike back harder...because they
masks, lockdowns, big government and people dying.
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I’m smart enough to avoid being a test subject. I’m smart enough to say “no thanks” to a vaccine that’s had more adverse reactions, injuries and deaths in 8 months than all the other vaccines in use have had in 20 years. If you want to take an untested, unapproved vaccine for a disease that has a .03% chance of killing you go ahead. I have been down that road before and learned from it. Now I’m too smart to be a Guinea Pig.
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Yeah, Tim. I know simple whole numbers are easier for you to comprehend, but look at the trend. Now it’s 18,800, up 59%. At what point is it cause for concern? Think. It. Through. For once.
What do you think happens if Covid mutates into a vaccine resistant strain? Did you like masks and restrictions?
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Nobody is being a test subject anymore. There is no control group getting a placebo, that already happened.
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No kidding. There have been 3.36 billion doses given worldwide, with 926 million folks around the globe fully inoculated. (w 2x doses). Hardly an experimental vaccine, that’s grasping at straws of the highest order.
Really. What stupid sheep bleated, "No jab, no job"?
Oh, no, not forcing people to get the vaccine, just taking away their job, not allowing their kids to go to school, that's all.
The problem is not that you are incredibly stupid, Tibilo.
The problem is that you are so stupid you forget what you wrote two weeks ago and expect the rest of us to be that stupid as well.
New medications are tested for years on animals to determine possible side effects, both short and long-term, before they ever go into clinical trials to test on humans for efficacy and potential side effects for the simple reason it is illegal, not to mention immoral, to test on human beings before excluding toxicity as a side effect. Preventative vaccines should not kill the patient. The usual process for a new drug, absent an emergency order from the FDA, is animal testing for toxicity, potential side effects, and efficacy, and then only after the drug passes the preliminary animal tests is it tested on healthy human subjects for potential toxicity, before the drug is finally tested on humans for efficacy.
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
That process was implemented by the FDA more than fifty years ago to further the first principle of medicine - "Do no harm." The new Chinese flu drugs were given an emergency FDA authorization and thereby did not follow the usual years-long animal - healthy human - infected human route. Instead, due to the emergency authorization, the drug has vastly less toxicity and side-effect testing on animals and is more reliant on a post-distribution system for monitoring potential side effects, one of which is the vaccine adverse effect reporting system (VAERS) site.
For the simple reason that the vaccines were given an emergency authorization - for obvious reasons - the drugs did not undergo the FDA's usual trial and testing protocol. The side effects of the drugs include the very credible evidence that the Moderna vaccine is associated with myocarditis (inflammation of the heart), pericarditis (swelling of the thin sack around the heart), and possibly even liberalsackitis (shrinkage and disappearance of the ball sack and brain due to the progression of liberalism).
You are thereby demonstrably wrong in claiming that the Chinese flu vaccines have been "tested" in the usual FDA process, and I strongly recommend you get evaluated for possible liberalsackitis.
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FlogManBun needs to read this again and Tiborat needs to read the VAERS data again.New medications are tested for years on animals to determine possible side effects, both short and long-term, before they ever go into clinical trials to test on humans for efficacy and potential side effects for the simple reason it is illegal, not to mention immoral, to test on human beings before excluding toxicity as a side effect. Preventative vaccines should not kill the patient. The usual process for a new drug, absent an emergency order from the FDA, is animal testing for toxicity, potential side effects, and efficacy, and then only after the drug passes the preliminary animal tests is it tested on healthy human subjects for potential toxicity, before the drug is finally tested on humans for efficacy.
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effectivewww.fda.gov
That process was implemented by the FDA more than fifty years ago to further the first principle of medicine - "Do no harm." The new Chinese flu drugs were given an emergency FDA authorization and thereby did not follow the usual years-long animal - healthy human - infected human route. Instead, due to the emergency authorization, the drug has vastly less toxicity and side-effect testing on animals and is more reliant on a post-distribution system for monitoring potential side effects, one of which is the vaccine adverse effect reporting system (VAERS) site.
For the simple reason that the vaccines were given an emergency authorization - for obvious reasons - the drugs did not undergo the FDA's usual trial and testing protocol. The side effects of the drugs include the very credible evidence that the Moderna vaccine is associated with myocarditis (inflammation of the heart), pericarditis (swelling of the thin sack around the heart), and possibly even liberalsackitis (shrinkage and disappearance of the ball sack and brain due to the progression of liberalism).
You are thereby demonstrably wrong in claiming that the Chinese flu vaccines have been "tested" in the usual FDA process, and I strongly recommend you get evaluated for possible liberalsackitis.
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Steeltime, I have no idea why you insist on being a schmuck on this board, perhaps it’s a form of role-playing, or you’re truly this narrow-minded, for real. I don’t know the answer to that question.
The various readily available Covid vaccines have been tested & approved around the world, including all the major Western nations. Again, nearly 1bn people (!) have been fully inoculated with two doses. You think a country like Germany, England, France or any of the highly-advanced Scandinavian countries would have proceeded with an unsafe vaccine? Really?
I understand you spend much of your adult life navel-gazing, running in circles and don’t give two ***** about what’s happening in the world around you, but maybe, just maybe, you should stick your head out the window and start paying attention.
Particularly since you give off the air of a knowledgable ‘expert’ on any, and every, subject known to mankind.
It makes your blatant ignorance that much more embarrassing & painful to observe, day in and day out.
No skin off my back, just trying to help you out.
The various readily available Covid vaccines have been tested & approved around the world, including all the major Western nations. Again, nearly 1bn people (!) have been fully inoculated with two doses. You think a country like Germany, England, France or any of the highly-advanced Scandinavian countries would have proceeded with an unsafe vaccine? Really?
I understand you spend much of your adult life navel-gazing, running in circles and don’t give two ***** about what’s happening in the world around you, but maybe, just maybe, you should stick your head out the window and start paying attention.
Particularly since you give off the air of a knowledgable ‘expert’ on any, and every, subject known to mankind.
It makes your blatant ignorance that much more embarrassing & painful to observe, day in and day out.
No skin off my back, just trying to help you out.
New medications are tested for years on animals to determine possible side effects, both short and long-term, before they ever go into clinical trials to test on humans for efficacy and potential side effects for the simple reason it is illegal, not to mention immoral, to test on human beings before excluding toxicity as a side effect. Preventative vaccines should not kill the patient. The usual process for a new drug, absent an emergency order from the FDA, is animal testing for toxicity, potential side effects, and efficacy, and then only after the drug passes the preliminary animal tests is it tested on healthy human subjects for potential toxicity, before the drug is finally tested on humans for efficacy.
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
That process was implemented by the FDA more than fifty years ago to further the first principle of medicine - "Do no harm." The new Chinese flu drugs were given an emergency FDA authorization and thereby did not follow the usual years-long animal - healthy human - infected human route. Instead, due to the emergency authorization, the drug has vastly less toxicity and side-effect testing on animals and is more reliant on a post-distribution system for monitoring potential side effects, one of which is the vaccine adverse effect reporting system (VAERS) site.
For the simple reason that the vaccines were given an emergency authorization - for obvious reasons - the drugs did not undergo the FDA's usual trial and testing protocol. The side effects of the drugs include the very credible evidence that the Moderna vaccine is associated with myocarditis (inflammation of the heart), pericarditis (swelling of the thin sack around the heart), and possibly even liberalsackitis (shrinkage and disappearance of the ball sack and brain due to the progression of liberalism).
You are thereby demonstrably wrong in claiming that the Chinese flu vaccines have been "tested" in the usual FDA process, and I strongly recommend you get evaluated for possible liberalsackitis.
Says the tool who said we need to get down to hundreds of cases per day "to be safe."
Says the tool who, when the trend goes DOWN from hundreds of thousands of cases to less than 10K, still preaches fear and lockdowns.
Says the tool who tells everyone we are not at or near herd immunity, but has no conceptual clue what those goal posts entail numerically.
It will be cause for concern when it is KILLING people at the rate it was. Even if cases go up to 30K a day and it's hayfever, who...the...****...cares?
When this thing eve becomes LETHAL or dangerous, let us know. 225 deaths a day is a statistical anomaly given how many die daily in the USA (nearly 8K).
From your very own NYTimes, TODAY. Even they aren't preaching fear porn, but you do. Odds are 10:1 that 4 years from now, you'll still be preaching fear porn.
And we are now at 55% of all Americans having at least ONE dose of the jabby jab. Couple in the fact that half or more of Americans have natural immunity, the fear you all preach is unwarranted, unless you have concerns now about the vaccines? I'm not hearing of the prior-infected contracting variants.
No kidding. There have been 3.36 billion doses given worldwide, with 926 million folks around the globe fully inoculated. (w 2x doses). Hardly an experimental vaccine, that’s grasping at straws of the highest order.
But cases are rising!!!!!! Does the vax work? Asking for a friend.
I cannot believe you are this willfully obtuse. I know you know better. You're now playing a party-platform talking point.
Emphatically, without question - it is 100% verifiable - these vaccines have not been tested per FDA rules and guidelines. Use simple logic. For instance, the usual FDA testing takes YEARS on animals. Why? They need to understand both short and LONG term effects of the vaccines. The vaccines were released in December. They did not test them for years. Even you see that impossibility.
They have been APPROVED under EUA. Do you not understand the difference? The Emergency Use Authorization specifically means they were not tested in the traditional format and were rushed to market for emergency purposes. What part of this are you failing to grasp?
Mankind IS the testing. Mankind, being guinea pigs, let the FDA and governments around the world know that myocarditis is one previously unidentified side effect of the vaccines. AKA, mankind IS the test bed.
I mean, if you want to continue to proceed, please proceed to make yourself appear a bigger fool than you already are. Saying these vaccines were tested and "approved" is akin to me saying drinking clorox isn't dangerous.
If you do proceed, please provide background on the thorough testing done on animals, then sick humans, and the FDA trial information, like this one: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-approvals-and-databases/drug-trial-snapshot-ozempic
Good luck finding those for the Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J vaccines.
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Yes, of course the vax works.
You can thank all your anti-vaccine & anti-mask superheroes for the renewed outbreak.
Troglodyte and I have been trying to get that through your immensely thick skulls, to no avail.
There are not enough Darwin Award trophies to go around.
Let's say your theory (for that's what it is) is true. Let's just say it is true that only the unvaxed are getting these cases (they say 90% are...so ok).
Are these people now not developing natural antibodies, which is better than being vaccinated because you get life long protection? Isn't this further protecting the herd (this is one way herd immunity is built up)?
COVID is now only as deadly as the flu. Period. The delta variant is less deadly, as are all mutations of the original virus. The virus is now less deadly, and our treatments have improved. Astronomically FEWER people die from any form of COVID now than they did last year.
So why your incessant, persistent, never-ending fear? Do you actually understand what we are now dealing with? You all act as if we are still dealing with the "RAGING INFERNO" of March/April/May last year. We are demonstrably not.
Did you get the Anthrax vaccine?
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Waiting years for a vaccine would’ve really sucked as will the return of masks and restrictions if Covid becomes vaccine resistant. The adverse reactions to the vaccine are exceedingly rare. I strongly recommend you give up your ridiculous ideology and get vaccinated.New medications are tested for years on animals to determine possible side effects, both short and long-term, before they ever go into clinical trials to test on humans for efficacy and potential side effects for the simple reason it is illegal, not to mention immoral, to test on human beings before excluding toxicity as a side effect. Preventative vaccines should not kill the patient. The usual process for a new drug, absent an emergency order from the FDA, is animal testing for toxicity, potential side effects, and efficacy, and then only after the drug passes the preliminary animal tests is it tested on healthy human subjects for potential toxicity, before the drug is finally tested on humans for efficacy.
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
The FDA's Drug Review Process: Ensuring Drugs Are Safe and Effective
That process was implemented by the FDA more than fifty years ago to further the first principle of medicine - "Do no harm." The new Chinese flu drugs were given an emergency FDA authorization and thereby did not follow the usual years-long animal - healthy human - infected human route. Instead, due to the emergency authorization, the drug has vastly less toxicity and side-effect testing on animals and is more reliant on a post-distribution system for monitoring potential side effects, one of which is the vaccine adverse effect reporting system (VAERS) site.
For the simple reason that the vaccines were given an emergency authorization - for obvious reasons - the drugs did not undergo the FDA's usual trial and testing protocol. The side effects of the drugs include the very credible evidence that the Moderna vaccine is associated with myocarditis (inflammation of the heart), pericarditis (swelling of the thin sack around the heart), and possibly even liberalsackitis (shrinkage and disappearance of the ball sack and brain due to the progression of liberalism).
You are thereby demonstrably wrong in claiming that the Chinese flu vaccines have been "tested" in the usual FDA process, and I strongly recommend you get evaluated for possible liberalsackitis.
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Says the tool whose maskless, unvaccinated family got Covid.
I never said we needed to get down to hundreds of new cases per day to be safe. I said that that is when we will know we have achieved herd immunity. Mind you, this is back in early April?, the first time you were ridiculously WRONG about the US having achieved herd immunity.