Because polio and TB have been largely eradicated.
mRNA vaccines have been studied and made it through clinical trials for other illnesses, if you read the article you'll see that. Long term effects would likely be known from those trials. Here's another:
www.oligotherapeutics.org
The real death rate is not close to 1% as your number doesn't include the 4.6x higher projected cases than what is reported. you need to move a decimal point at least. It is most likely 0.3% not 1%. You like Trog are not accounting for natural immunity for the many unvaccinated who have already had covid. Sorry for comparing you to Trog I know that is a low blow.
I'm just going by the numbers these guys are quoting. We'll never really know what the true numbers are. But like everyone else you guys are harping on death rates and ignoring hospitalization and long term effects of covid as if they are irrelevant.
mRNA vaccines have been studied and made it through clinical trials for other illnesses, if you read the article you'll see that. Long term effects would likely be known from those trials. Here's another:
Facts about mRNA Vaccines and the Decades of Research That Went into Creating Them - Oligonucleotide Therapeutics Society
Despite the global threat of COVID-19, mRNA vaccines, which are highly effective at preventing COVID-19 illness and have passed rigorous safety standards, have been met with skepticism by many people.
Isn’t the technology too new to be trusted? If mRNA vaccines really work and can be produced so quickly, then why haven’t any been used before?
Technically, mRNA vaccines are not new. They, along with other RNA therapeutics, have been in development for decades, and many mRNA vaccines were in phase 1, 2, and 3 trials before the COVID-19 vaccines were created. There simply has not been the level of urgency to produce them to combat a virus as we have seen in this pandemic. The arrival of SARS-CoV-2 highlighted the critical need for solutions, and the development of mRNA vaccines along with other oligonucleotide therapies became an urgent priority. (Read more about oligonucleotide therapeutics in the fight against COVID-19 here.)
The potential of mRNA vaccines was restricted initially because mRNA is unstable, delivery is difficult, and they often created an undesirably strong immune response (1, 5). mRNA by itself is easily detected by the immune system, and it needs to avoid detection and be delivered into the cell (4). Each vaccine requires determining what portions of mRNA will create the desired response and what formulations will create an effective immune response without creating too strong an immune reaction (1).
Once these, and a myriad of other problems were solved, pharmaceutical companies were not eager to invest in mRNA vaccines for infectious diseases because there are many other effective vaccine platforms in use.
Moderna is one exception, and they have focused on developing and improving mRNA vaccines for infectious diseases for a decade. They have completed two phase 1 studies for influenza strains that were found to be both safe and effective (6). Another phase 1 trial for a Zika virus vaccine is underway, as is a phase 2 dose-finding trial for a cytomegalovirus vaccine. Undoubtedly, this contributed to their ability to respond so quickly during this pandemic and allowed them to produce one of the first vaccines to receive emergency authorization. So, while it is true that we do not have long term data on these specific vaccines, we do have data on vaccines with similar platforms and delivery methods that show longer-term safety.
I said at a 1% death rate if we just let them all get covid. Without any mitigation it's likely many of them would eventually get it, as the population of those infected skews younger and younger the death rate would likely drop, that is unless some more virulent strain emerges which isn't out of the question. There are obviously a lot of variables. No one knows what the number would end up being. It would be a lot and a lot more hospitalizations and long term illness too which isn't something to just ignore.
izzat the Dr. Scott Gottleib who performed a service for the country when he led the FDA?Not necessarily…
Dr. Scott Gottlieb says U.S. is ‘vastly underestimating’ level of Covid delta spread
Former FDA chief Dr. Scott Gottlieb told CNBC he expects further spread of the Covid delta variant, which is "clearly far more contagious" than earlier strains.www.cnbc.com
There are reasons they haven't been approved for full use and most of it is because they aren't needed, either because there were cheaper and easier to manage options or because the illnesses just weren't all that contagious and died out on their own. The point is that this idea that we have no long term data on the safety of mRNA vaccines is not accurate.Okay, I'll be more specific - how many mRNA vaccines have ever been approved for full use in the United States?
Direct from the CDC:
What You Need to Know
Messenger RNA vaccines—also called mRNA vaccines—are some of the first COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the United States.
- mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases.
- mRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.
- The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19.
- COVID-19 vaccines are not interchangeable. If you received a Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, you should get the same product for your second shot.
- Learn more about getting your vaccine.
(and that's actually not correct - they've only been approved for EUA - they have not been approved for full use)
New Approach to Vaccines
mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response, many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.
Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines
Learn more about how mRNA vaccines trigger our immune systems to produce antibodies that protect us against COVID-19.www.cdc.gov
I don't care how long they've been "studied" for. And I understand they've been studied for everything from influenza to rabies. They've never been approved for full use before and that's what concerns me. And sorry, but I'm not buying the level of urgency has never been like this or that these particular spike proteins are all of a sudden a-okay. Sorry, going to just have to agree to disagree with you on this one. My personal opinion.
Which is a lot, no? If we could have prevented most of them it would be good, right?
I don't have anyone vulnerable in my family actually. But what's the wow? Again, 99% of the people dying of this right now are unvaccinated. A couple hundred every single day. What don't you get about how terribly needless and tragic that is? You guys throw these stats around as if the lives associated with them don't matter.
Thats precisely why the FDA requires tox, safety and efficacy data over years, not months/weeks.
So in a few months when this gets approved for full use you're good with them then. I'm relieved to know you'll finally be getting one.
Why are you so confident in treatments but not in vaccines? Do you think drugs or other treatments can't have adverse effects in some people?
Before drugs are approved by FDA, why do they require Phase III clinical results?mRNA vaccines have been studied and made it through clinical trials for other illnesses, if you read the article you'll see that. Long term effects would likely be known from those trials. Here's another:
Facts about mRNA Vaccines and the Decades of Research That Went into Creating Them - Oligonucleotide Therapeutics Society
Despite the global threat of COVID-19, mRNA vaccines, which are highly effective at preventing COVID-19 illness and have passed rigorous safety standards, have been met with skepticism by many people.
Isn’t the technology too new to be trusted? If mRNA vaccines really work and can be produced so quickly, then why haven’t any been used before?
Technically, mRNA vaccines are not new. They, along with other RNA therapeutics, have been in development for decades, and many mRNA vaccines were in phase 1, 2, and 3 trials before the COVID-19 vaccines were created. There simply has not been the level of urgency to produce them to combat a virus as we have seen in this pandemic. The arrival of SARS-CoV-2 highlighted the critical need for solutions, and the development of mRNA vaccines along with other oligonucleotide therapies became an urgent priority. (Read more about oligonucleotide therapeutics in the fight against COVID-19 here.)
The potential of mRNA vaccines was restricted initially because mRNA is unstable, delivery is difficult, and they often created an undesirably strong immune response (1, 5). mRNA by itself is easily detected by the immune system, and it needs to avoid detection and be delivered into the cell (4). Each vaccine requires determining what portions of mRNA will create the desired response and what formulations will create an effective immune response without creating too strong an immune reaction (1).
Once these, and a myriad of other problems were solved, pharmaceutical companies were not eager to invest in mRNA vaccines for infectious diseases because there are many other effective vaccine platforms in use.
Moderna is one exception, and they have focused on developing and improving mRNA vaccines for infectious diseases for a decade. They have completed two phase 1 studies for influenza strains that were found to be both safe and effective (6). Another phase 1 trial for a Zika virus vaccine is underway, as is a phase 2 dose-finding trial for a cytomegalovirus vaccine. Undoubtedly, this contributed to their ability to respond so quickly during this pandemic and allowed them to produce one of the first vaccines to receive emergency authorization. So, while it is true that we do not have long term data on these specific vaccines, we do have data on vaccines with similar platforms and delivery methods that show longer-term safety.
You're dealing with vaccines that underwent all phases of clinical trials and has been safely used in millions more for months, and are fully on target to be approved. You're dealing with an illness that is hospitalizing thousands and killing over 200 daily, and those numbers are currently rising. As I stated before, be skeptical of the vaccines all you want, but if you don't want to seem like you don't care about people dying, maybe stop quoting over and over again how gloriously low the death rate is from covid.