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Covid Vaccine

Troglodyte said:
The vaccinated are less likely to get the virus, less likely to spread the virus and have the virus for a much shorter duration.

Educate yourself… or post more Sponge Bob memes.
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which, if you're following along, is 100% NOT what the vaccine shot is billed as.

the shot is billed as preventing you from getting the virus. and that is all. people literally have to do their own research (and there are countless memes suggesting people to NOT do their own research) to see that it doesnt prevent you from getting the virus, and if it did the second and third part of your statement wouldn't be necessary.

 
Troglodyte said:
Again, it was primarily operational issues just as the Union President said. Read any of the various articles, or post a legitimate article confirming that there was and is a walkout causing the cancellations.
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So let me get this straight.

YOU say a Union president has more knowledge about why flights are being canceled than the PILOTS who fly the planes?

Is that right?
 
Steeltime said:
So let me get this straight.

YOU say a Union president has more knowledge about why flights are being canceled than the PILOTS who fly the planes?

Is that right?
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No, what he's saying is that the Union President's comments fit's what he wants to believe because questioning it would mean that he was thinking incorrectly. He can't be wrong.
 
Tibs said:
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Another pointless meme that tries to make it seem like not getting vaccinated means you will die of COVID. One more time I will ask what are the odds of the unvaccinated dying from COVID? The answer is pertinent and poignant. To post memes like this and to think like this is very indicative of a total misunderstanding of what the mortality rates are for this disease and shows the false and frankly extremely unhealthy mental outlook. I really pity the state of fear people are living in regardless of vaccination status. Until you and Trog acknowledge the truth by truly answering my question here can be no common ground here.
 
Superman said:
which, if you're following along, is 100% NOT what the vaccine shot is billed as.

the shot is billed as preventing you from getting the virus. and that is all. people literally have to do their own research (and there are countless memes suggesting people to NOT do their own research) to see that it doesnt prevent you from getting the virus, and if it did the second and third part of your statement wouldn't be necessary.

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It never was never “billed” as that. 90% effectiveness. Christ, it’s like you had to pay a lot of money to get vaccinated and now your entitled ***** *** wants a refund.
 
Steeltime said:
So let me get this straight.

YOU say a Union president has more knowledge about why flights are being canceled than the PILOTS who fly the planes?

Is that right?
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What, the nameless, faceless pilots? Yes, Union Presidents have a keen understanding of operations.
 
Troglodyte said:
What, the nameless, faceless pilots? Yes, Union Presidents have a keen understanding of operations.
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You REALLY don't know anything about large unions, do you? Also, the specific information from one Southwest pilot - that the sick-out could not be called a sick-out since that would violate the union contract and subject the employees to discipline - is 100% accurate.

The explanations for the thousands of canceled flights - "weather," unidentified "operations problems" - are bullshit.
 
Troglodyte said:
It never was never “billed” as that. 90% effectiveness. Christ, it’s like you had to pay a lot of money to get vaccinated and now your entitled ***** *** wants a refund.
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BILL AS (phrasal verb) American English definition and synonyms | Macmillan Dictionary

Definition of BILL AS (phrasal verb): advertise or describe someone or something as
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(be billed as something) to advertise or describe someone or something in a particular way, especially in order to make them soundinteresting or important
Electric cars are being billed as the automobiles of the future.
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Fact check: Biden makes false claims about Covid-19, auto prices and other subjects at CNN town hall

President Joe Biden participated Wednesday in the second CNN town hall of his presidency, taking questions from anchor Don Lemon and local residents in Cincinnati.
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Calling on Americans to get vaccinated against Covid-19, Biden said, "If you're vaccinated, you're not going to be hospitalized, you're not going to be in the ICU unit and you're not going to die." In another exchange moments later, Biden said that even if vaccinated people do "catch the virus," they are "not likely to get sick."
But then, during a third exchange, Biden said that since the vaccines "cover" the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus: "You're not going to get Covid if you have these vaccinations."
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like I said, this vaccine shot was billed as the holy hand grenade in the WooFloo War. Biden even said so.

But, here come Flog, talkin **** bout people be wantin refund becuz they be entitled, while he took a goddamned family vacation to Key ******* West in the middle of the most deadly pandemic to ever scour the face of the planet.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, it was primarily operational issues just as the Union President said. Read any of the various articles, or post a legitimate article confirming that there was and is a walkout causing the cancellations.
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Oh no, they have SPECIFICALLY also said it was weather related, and the latest articles continue to bang that drum.

I also provided you reasoning as to why, because of the agreement in place, the union has done what they have done. Their support would make it illegal.
 
Troglodyte said:
Alex Berenson 🙄
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And once again, you can't be reasoned with because you sidestep discussions by diminishing the source. Berenson worked at your BELOVED New York Times. Look at the information inside Floggy, instead of just being an obtuse denier.
 
Troglodyte said:
The vaccinated are less likely to get the virus, less likely to spread the virus and have the virus for a much shorter duration.

Educate yourself… or post more Sponge Bob memes.
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You need the education. An entire country, Israel, with the largest study of its kind, showed people with natural immunity to COVID-19 are 13 times less likely to contract the respiratory virus than those who were solely vaccinated against the disease.

You've been provided this data and other supporting studies time and again, yet you keep spreading this misinformation.
 
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Steeltime said:
So let me get this straight.

YOU say a Union president has more knowledge about why flights are being canceled than the PILOTS who fly the planes?

Is that right?
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Noooooooo Lester Holt told him, so it's gots ta be true.
 
Steeltime said:
You REALLY don't know anything about large unions, do you? Also, the specific information from one Southwest pilot - that the sick-out could not be called a sick-out since that would violate the union contract and subject the employees to discipline - is 100% accurate.

The explanations for the thousands of canceled flights - "weather," unidentified "operations problems" - are bullshit.
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Floggy do be ignore what Floggy done have been told.

"A Southwest Airlines pilot emailed Alex Berenson, providing his SWA ID to prove his identity. Years ago, SW and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule. Therefore, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action."
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Floggy do be ignore what Floggy done have been told.

"A Southwest Airlines pilot emailed Alex Berenson, providing his SWA ID to prove his identity. Years ago, SW and its pilots had a rough negotiation, and the union would not even let the pilots internally discuss the possibility of working-to-rule. Therefore, the union cannot organize or even acknowledge the sickout, because doing so would make it an illegal job action."
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"Alex Berenson"? :rolleyes:
- Floggy

Alex Berenson:

Alex Berenson was born in New York in 1973 and grew up in Englewood, N.J. After graduating from Yale University in 1994 with degrees in history and economics, he joined the Denver Post as a reporter. In 1996, he became one of the first employees at TheStreet.com, the groundbreaking financial news Website.

In 1999, he joined The New York Times. At the Times, he covered everything from the drug industry to Hurricane Katrina; in 2003 and 2004, he served two stints as a correspondent in Iraq, an experience that led him to write The Faithful Spy, his debut novel, which won the Edgar Award from the Mystery Writers of America for Best First Novel. He left the Times in 2010 to devote himself to writing fiction. But conversations with his wife led him to begin researching the science around cannabis and mental illness, a project that became the book Tell Your Children, published in January 2019.

He has now written twelve John Wells novels and two non-fiction books, The Number and Tell Your Children. Alex lives in the Hudson Valley with his wife, Dr. Jacqueline Berenson, a forensic psychiatrist, and their children.
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Floggy:

"Floggy" is a 1997 graduate of Fitzhugh Reform School under the tutelage of Gabe Kotter. In school, he went by the nickname "Freebie" based on his incredibly annoying penchant for never buying anything and stealing food off of other student's plates. Floggy moved on to bigger and better things after completing three weeks of online courses at DeVry Institute in 2011, studying hairstyling and freeloading. He wandered drunk into a failing business in 2017 that specialized in stealing money from old people living in assisted-care facilities. It was the break he was looking for since he was hired after the company lost all its staff after trying to pay employees in stolen Geritol, curlers, and universal remotes too confusing for the elderly. Floggy is a long-time member, never contributor to Steeler Nation, where he derived his nickname "Floggy" from Tim Steelerfan. The nickname is a play on his official user name, Douchebag Troglodyte since the freeloader regularly gets flogged in debate. When asked, Floggy said he preferred his prior nickname, Freebie, since he claims to have used it brilliantly for many years to pick up girls by offering them a "freebie."
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Steeltime said:
So let me get this straight.

YOU say a Union president has more knowledge about why flights are being canceled than the PILOTS who fly the planes?

Is that right?
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Furthermore, why would the union prez admit to his members perpetrating an illegal work action, which is what a sick-out would be.
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
Another pointless meme that tries to make it seem like not getting vaccinated means you will die of COVID. One more time I will ask what are the odds of the unvaccinated dying from COVID? The answer is pertinent and poignant. To post memes like this and to think like this is very indicative of a total misunderstanding of what the mortality rates are for this disease and shows the false and frankly extremely unhealthy mental outlook. I really pity the state of fear people are living in regardless of vaccination status. Until you and Trog acknowledge the truth by truly answering my question here can be no common ground here.
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700,000 people had the same odds (actually better odds) until someone, very likely unvaccinated, infected them and then they died.

Top 5 vaccinated states: 69.1% vaccinated, 29 cases/100k, .27 deaths/100k

Bottom 5 vaccinated states: 43.4% vaccinated, 86 cases/100k, 2.27 deaths/ 100k.

Despite the increases in some highly vaccinated states (VT, ME) and the decreases in some low vaccinated states (MS,AL), the low vaccinated states currently have 3X the cases, 8.5X the deaths.
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
Let’s see if I have the list correct. I know steel got a good one going.
Energy independent - now Russia has the cards. Hmm
Inflation my lord
Gas prices. jFC
Police are out
Other responders are out
Hospital employees are out
Nursing home employees are out
Airline folks said **** it, take a bus
Grocery stores are empty
Ships are a massing at ports
Freight workers and drivers gone.




But we got .14 cent of that dog baba!!!!! **** Biden and **** you for voting for him.
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You forgot a squalid tent city of Haitian migrants and couple hundred thousand illegal immigrants released into the country.
 
Troglodyte said:
700,000 people had the same odds (actually better odds) until someone, very likely unvaccinated, infected them and then they died.

Top 5 vaccinated states: 69.1% vaccinated, 29 cases/100k, .27 deaths/100k

Bottom 5 vaccinated states: 43.4% vaccinated, 86 cases/100k, 2.27 deaths/ 100k.

Despite the increases in some highly vaccinated states (VT, ME) and the decreases in some low vaccinated states (MS,AL), the low vaccinated states currently have 3X the cases, 8.5X the deaths.
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if one person infected 700,000 people and caused those people to die by not being vaccinated, then you can be 100% assured that the vaccine in your lame, lying, bullshit hypothetical is as worthless as your membership payment here.
 
Troglodyte said:
700,000 people had the same odds (actually better odds) until someone, very likely unvaccinated, infected them and then they died.

Top 5 vaccinated states: 69.1% vaccinated, 29 cases/100k, .27 deaths/100k

Bottom 5 vaccinated states: 43.4% vaccinated, 86 cases/100k, 2.27 deaths/ 100k.

Despite the increases in some highly vaccinated states (VT, ME) and the decreases in some low vaccinated states (MS,AL), the low vaccinated states currently have 3X the cases, 8.5X the deaths.
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So, that would mean these aren't "vaccines" they are shots - like the flu shot - that give a small amount of protection from getting it, and some protection against it getting severe.

Can we please stop calling them vaccines when they are in fact not vaccines.
 
NCSteelerfan said:
So, that would mean these aren't "vaccines" they are shots - like the flu shot - that give a small amount of protection from getting it, and some protection against it getting severe.

Can we please stop calling them vaccines when they are in fact not vaccines.
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Thank you!! I'm not unvaccinated...I'm un-shot! :)
 
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