Covid Vaccine
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The theme. If it fits their agenda then it’s ok
I live here. Lujan grisham is a clueless idiot
It's everywhere. You can't get the "news" on it. But I'm social, have friends, networks, like all of you. And everyone says "so and so has Covid". The overwhelming number of them are vaccinated. It's crazy. 80% or more.
On ESPN today Max Kellerman and others were heard to say, when discussing the major sports leagues shutting down/postponing games that the vaccines are amazing, but we still have to live with Covid.
I just shake my head. It must hurt after a while to lie that hard for that long. Or you have to be stupid.
The vaccines are not vaccines. They are not preventing spread. And when 100% of your league is vaccinated and you have to shut it down due to the virus everyone is vaccinated against...how can you look in the camera and call them wonder drugs?
They are the worst vaccines developed in modern history...in terms of doing what they are supposed to do.
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And you suck at answering the questioned:
If Fauci’s intent is to fear monger, why would he make statements that clearly undermine his fear mongering?
You can’t fix stupid. You try to show them and put two and two together and they always resort to politics. I don’t get it either. It baffles me how someone can sit there and tout the vaccines as effective yet they still get it.
If it’s effective then they shouldn’t worry. The politics and power grab by our government has driven good people apart. Those of us stuck in the middle watching our own brothers and sisters fight over fears, insecurities. I just don’t know
Because Fraudci says contradicting **** like every other week?
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Once again, you lose track of your arguments You have said many times that the vaccines most certainly don’t work and the vaccinated are the superspreaders. If that’s the case, aren’t they right to to keep the unvaccinated away from the vaccinated? Pick an argument, Tim.Brilliant.
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Biden's and Fauci's Calls for Segregated Christmas Undermine Confidence in Vaccine
His Fraudulency Joe Biden once again undermined confidence in the vaccine by calling for a segregated Christmas.www.breitbart.com
After more than a year of doing everything in his waning power to undermine faith in the Trump Vaccine, His Fraudulency Joe Biden did it again this week in calling for a segregated Christmas.
Naturally, his serial-lying toady, Dr. Anthony Fauci, did the same.
“Right now … if there’s an unvaccinated person, I would say, ‘I’m very sorry, but not this time, maybe another time when this is all over,’” Fauci answered when asked if unvaccinated family members should be excluded from Christmas gatherings.
“I know some Americans are wondering if you can safely celebrate the holidays with your family and friends,” His Fraudulency said on Wednesday. “The answer is, yes, you can if you and those you celebrate with are vaccinated, particularly if you’ve gotten your booster shot.”
Sorry to interrupt, but I have a question…
Does the vaccine work or not?
Listen, either the vaccine works, or it doesn’t.
And if the vaccine works, there is no rational reason for the vaccinated to fear the unvaccinated.
Not to get too didactic, but the whole point of the vaccine is to protect us from the virus.
So if I’m protected from the virus with the vaccine, why should I fear the unvaccinated?
Or does the vaccine not work?
Personally, I don’t think there’s any question that the Trump Vaccine works like gangbusters. I’m triple vaxxed, living a normal life again, and very grateful to the former president for doing what no other politician would have done: get this vaccine to market in a time frame that can only be described as a miracle. And it’s my faith in the vaccine, my gratitude for the vaccine, that has made it so difficult to watch the Biden administration not only undermine the value of the vaccine but continuously botch the rollout of what should be the easiest sell in the world: a free miracle vaccine.
But here Biden and Fauci go again… It’s just a fact that when you tell the vaccinated not to spend Christmas with the unvaccinated, you are telling us the vaccine doesn’t work. Which, by the way, isn’t even true! But what else are we supposed to glean when the vaccinated are told to fear the unvaccinated?
The truth is this; the science is this — if the vaccinated and unvaccinated gather for Christmas, the unvaccinated people are the only people taking a serious risk. Yes, there’s a tiny chance the vaccinated can become seriously ill or even die, but guess what? The vaccinated can also transmit the virus!
The vaccine does not eliminate the possibility of catching or transmitting the virus. It only decreases the possibility. The vaccine works like a miracle in its ability to lessen the symptoms and save you from a severe illness, hospitalization, and even death.
Having the unvaccinated over for Christmas does not change your vaccination status. You are still vaccinated.
Having the unvaccinated over for Christmas probably does not increase your odds of catching the China Flu. Your odds stay the same.
So why are Biden and Fauci deliberately undermining confidence in the Trump vaccine? Why are they intentionally misleading the American people at the expense of increasing vaccination rates?
The answer is obvious…
The organized left — Biden, Fauci, elected Democrats, Hollywood, the medical deep state, the media, Big Tech, etc. — look at who is currently vaccinated and who is not vaccinated and are thrilled at the result.
It is largely Trump voters who remain unvaccinated, and it is Trump voters who are doing most of the dying.
This makes Biden and Fauci very, very happy, and they do not want to change a thing about that fact.
You see, the organized left does not want to increase vaccination rates because doing so would save the lives of Trump supporters. So, they lie and lie and lie to make the vaccine seem ineffective, and they undermine and undermine and undermine confidence to keep unvaccinated Trump supporters unvaccinated.
Secondly, on top of wanting us dead, the organized left also wants the unvaccinated (who they see and describe as Trump supporters) treated as second-class citizens, as walking diseases… They want them shunned, degraded, dehumanized, and subjugated. Why? Because they hate us and want us to die.
If you don’t believe me, riddle me this…
Why else would Biden and Fauci deliberately undermine confidence in the vaccine? If they wanted to increase vaccination rates, they would be saying about Christmas: The vaccinated have almost nothing to worry about while gathering with vaccinated or the unvaccinated. They are protected. It is the unvaccinated who are taking a risk, and here are the numbers to prove it…
Riddle me this…
Why else would Biden limit a therapeutic saving lives in the red state of Florida?
Why else would Biden require tourists, who primarily visit Democrat-run cities, to get vaccinated while he seeds the rest of the country with unvaccinated illegal aliens?
Because I’m familiar with the data, I have complete confidence in the vaccine, and that confidence only grows with each passing day. Therefore, because both my wife and I are triple vaccinated, I believe I have no more to fear from the unvaccinated than I do from the vaccinated. Both can transmit the virus, neither alter in any way how the vaccine protects us.
Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci are not only liars; they are monsters desperate to kill and dehumanize us. The good news is that except for your Aunt and Uncle Karen, I don’t think Americans are falling for it.
So merry Christmas to the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. And shame on those who use anti-science lies to discriminate, segregate, and spread death against those who dare to not vote for them.
BTW, was Nolte brilliant when he claimed this?…
Breitbart Writer Claims ‘Organized Left’ Uses ‘Reverse Psychology’ to ‘Trick’ People Into Refusing ‘Trump Vaccine’
Breitbart's John Nolte is a right-wing media figure who wants to see his readers vaccinated
LMAO...why would he make comments that DO?
We have pointed out to you and Fiblio and Libs for 2 years that Fauci is a walking hypocrite, and a flat out ******* liar.
You have your answer there. The man contradicts himself weekly and has been doing so for 24 months. Lies to Congress, lies to you, lies at work, lies on TV.
Why would he undermine his fear mongering? Because he's....a hypocritical liar?
Q: Do these vaccines prevent spread? Nope.
Q: Do these vaccines show an ever increasing # of vaccinated people getting infected, hospitalized, dying? Yep. Fauci even agrees with me.
Q: If the vaccines worked, would you need booster after booster? Nope.
Prove they aren't.
If the vaccines work, why are the vaccinated afraid of the unvaxed?
I have my measles vax. Don't care if I'm around someone with measles.
I have my smallpox vax. Don't care if I'm around someone with small pox.
Wonder why?
Because They Work
Government control of speech.
Government control of health care.
Government control of private property (regulation and taxes)
Government control of travel.
Central planning for production.
Treating government toadies like elites, exempt from the rules they impose on others.
Replacing profit motive with purported steps to further "the public good," which are inevitably good for government toadies.
Single party rule and overt efforts to stamp out opposing political views.
Sound familiar, Tibilo? Reads like the (D)imbo party platform.
Commie propogandists bleat that capitalists spend their lives chasing the almighty dollar, but use threats and punishment to enforce their rules. Chasing the almighty dollar >>> running from the commie whip.
"Round 'Em Up!"
Tibor's go-to if someone differs from his political views. Tibor? JFC, can they do official name changes in The Republic of Cuckghanistan or whatever shithole it is you live in?
Tibor's go-to if someone differs from his political views. Tibor? JFC, can they do official name changes in The Republic of Cuckghanistan or whatever shithole it is you live in?
Wait, what? Vaccinated now means not one, not two, but THREE injections?
And you don't see any issue with that. News flash: You should.
I seriously don't know why I bother. Roe was a terrible decision for at least three reasons:
- The Supreme Court predicated its authority to render the decision on something called "substantive due process," meaning a "right" not actually identified in the Constitution, the "right of privacy." Issuing decisions based on fictional "rights" means that the Court lacks credibility - basically its only asset. The Court does not have an army and generates respect for its decisions solely on citizens believing that the Court has genuine credibility. When the court simply makes up bases for issuing decisions, it harms its only asset.
- Second, the decision in Roe recognized that states can regulate privacy to protect citizens, such as laws precluding sex with minors despite the fact that sexual activity is very private. The Court held in relevant part that the state's interest in protecting a fetus was secondary to the right of privacy for a pregnant woman until the fetus became viable apart from the mother, identified in the opinion as 24 weeks. The problem with that decision, of course, if that medical advances have made fetus viability possible at a much earlier time, as early as 19 weeks. Therefore, the opinion is no longer even correct.
- Third, the decision basically robbed states of their inherent 10th amendment right to regulate health and safety. Did you know that as of the summer of 1973, at least 28 states had a right of privacy in their state constitutions? The decision took from the states the ability to protect or not protect abortion as a right. Our entire system is based on the idea that states will work out crucial issues like these, so that we can compare how these decisions work and move out of states that are following failed systems (*cough* California).
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Name one vaccine mandate to private business from the federal government. The mandates on other vaccines concerned military and attending public schools. The vaccines were tested and tried over years and proven effective in stopping the spread of those diseases. These vaccines are still in clinical trials and are showing that they do not stop the spread of the virus.
Im not against the vaccines, but i am against the federal government over reaching and doing things by force. With anything. Especially when there are therapeutics available that they arent making more widely available to people for treatment
Still not a false equivalency - my body my choice. Because if thats not the case here then anytime the govt deems something a danger to the public your body will be less yours to make any kind of choice with.
Of course folks can also go back to licking them boots. They must taste pretty good. I dont care to find out.
Saw Joe Rogan had a Doctor on the podcast who claimed at least 200 congressmen/congresswomen have taken Ivermectin as treatment. Now that's a claim and it obviously can't be corroborated - but would anybody put it past them when the drug has shown to be an effective treatment? And yes FloggedbyReality, Japan didn't distribute it to their people like I originally claimed, but their Director of Health recently touted that it needs be utilized ASAP.
I know, NC needs to post way more. We need more sane, rational thought in this thread.
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But they are doing what they're supposed to do, make billions for drug companies and allow lefties to compile enemies lists of people who still believe in the Constitution and target them for destruction. It also helps them to crush small businesses which is also a goal.
As for Fauci and his flip-flopping, I’ll say that he is following the science. The science on this is changing. The more we study this, the more we know how it spreads and can prevent or slow it. However, when he injects his OPINION is where he needs to stop. He’s a scientist - as proven by his experiments on beagles (and he needs to have this experiments ran on himself) - so he needs to exercise the control of a scientist and only speak to the facts that are known.
For instance, we don’t hear about the scientists at NASA speculating about little green men on Mars. We also hear about the embryos and cells found from dinosaurs, but do not hear about how these will be brought back to life. Well, mostly do not anyway.
Fauci has done more harm by spreading his opinion than he has helped by telling the facts. Read up and down this thread. Fauci says masks work. Fibs and Flog cling to it. Fauci says masks don’t work, others (like me) discard their masks. Fauci about faces and says masks work. Which is it? Science changes, yes, but at the point where you’re constantly changing your stance, your credibility is being undermined. And Fauci’s has completely eroded for some people.
For instance, we don’t hear about the scientists at NASA speculating about little green men on Mars. We also hear about the embryos and cells found from dinosaurs, but do not hear about how these will be brought back to life. Well, mostly do not anyway.
Fauci has done more harm by spreading his opinion than he has helped by telling the facts. Read up and down this thread. Fauci says masks work. Fibs and Flog cling to it. Fauci says masks don’t work, others (like me) discard their masks. Fauci about faces and says masks work. Which is it? Science changes, yes, but at the point where you’re constantly changing your stance, your credibility is being undermined. And Fauci’s has completely eroded for some people.
Well the biggest fatal comorbity is cancer… amazing that for people with an already deadly disease thats treated by wiping out the immune system it is really bad to catch a respiratory illness… thats how most cancer patients die.. pneumonia from some cold when their body cannot fight it off.
Well i mean the mask science is pretty straightforward but they ****** up the viral designation… if they followed modern science from the get go instead of medical dogma they would have treated it as an aerosol instead of a viral droplet transmitted illness they would never have advocated six foot social distances or simple cloth masks.. it would have been high end p100 type masks with proper seals if anything and massive ventilation …
Instead they pushed an agenda and when the facts about the virus changed the agenda never did… areosols stay in the air for hours… they might not be viable for that long but we don’t know… we do know its culminating and that means when hundreds of people are in an enclosed space, infected ones with or without masks are putting the virus out there for others to breathe in..
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Forget all your misinformation, we’ve been through that ad nauseam. AGAIN, YOU FAIL TO ANSWER EITHER QUESTION.
If it’s the vaccinated who are spreading the virus, WHY are you complaining about the advice that they not gather with the unvaccinated? How is it not good advice?
Was Nolte “brilliant” when he TWICE called the vaccine a miracle and lifesaver and that by right-wingers refusing it will lead to their deaths?
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Every vaccine in history has been a first. It’s not like they used the smallpox vaccine to treat everything up until Covid.