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Damn this time of year use to be so special,

After the loss to the Chargers in ‘94 I laid on my bed and stared at the ceiling for an hour. Didn’t move. Nowadays I couldn’t care less. Because ownership obviously doesn’t. We are going to get pasted Saturday night and people will continue to just take it. That’s our fate now. So I checked out emotionally and financially.
 
After the loss to the Chargers in ‘94 I laid on my bed and stared at the ceiling for an hour. Didn’t move. Nowadays I couldn’t care less. Because ownership obviously doesn’t. We are going to get pasted Saturday night and people will continue to just take it. That’s our fate now. So I checked out emotionally and financially.

That was a rough game. It used to take me a few weeks to get those games out of my head. Now superbowl XXX vs Dallas, that stuck with me for months. Well it never left my brain really. If I think about it much I get pissed off..lol.


Nowadays? It's gone by days end. I don't care. Mediocrity has done that to me and the NFL product itself, is a shell of it's former self.

Between the money involved and the ridiculous rules that are applied sporadically, it's completely unappealing.
 
Yep! I hear ya! I go back to the golden years of the 70’s and all I can say it was a magical time in the city.
I worked in the city in what was the US Steel Bldg. and the entire city, Western Pennsylvania was on fire. It was electric and people were excited come playoff time.
It’s funny you brought this up since I was thinking the other day that I’m dreading this now more concerned about them not getting embarrassed.
Even one of our favorite sons Big Ben said yesterday he’s unfortunately picking the Ravens.
Ben knows things are dysfunctional over there in Steelerland but he’s not ever going to come out and say it but I think indirectly he’s kind of saying it.
This feeling sucks!
I was abit young at actually say I lived i the 70's Steeler years, just on the fringe of them. I can remember the Super Bowls but just barely, I was not a solid "fan" back them. just a little kid. I vaguely remember the 70's SBs. But I was a fan for those. As much as one can be at 6 years old. The 80's, yes, but not much to cheer for. But I was solidly a Steelers fan. And the 80's were still Steelers football, we had a solid D and rushing game, just no QB. The 90's was pure Steeler football, with those Cowher teams. Fraudlin is NOT Steeler football, it just isn't. It's built on a fraud and lies.
 
After the loss to the Chargers in ‘94 I laid on my bed and stared at the ceiling for an hour. Didn’t move. Nowadays I couldn’t care less. Because ownership obviously doesn’t. We are going to get pasted Saturday night and people will continue to just take it. That’s our fate now. So I checked out emotionally and financially.
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
 
For me football is just not as important as it used to be. Nothing to do with Tomlin or Rooney or anything really.
It is just a game played by millionaires.

I still love the Steelers. Watch every game. I just refuse to let the wins or losses dictate how I feel.

The NFL has changed over the years. It is way more of a business than a sport.
You know, I thought the same thing as you earlier last year but then while watching an old game of the 90's steelers I fell in love with that team all over again and I realized that It's not the game, it's the team. There really isn't anything to "love" outside of a TJ sack every once in a while. The team has the energy and personality of a wet bag.

Like Tom said, we used to get excited and feed off of each other's energy and it's gone. Flat. Nadda.
 
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
My answer is two sentences later. I checked out emotionally and financially. Not worth it anymore to me. Others can come to their own conclusions but those are mine.
 
I was abit young at actually say I lived i the 70's Steeler years, just on the fringe of them. I can remember the Super Bowls but just barely, I was not a solid "fan" back them. just a little kid. I vaguely remember the 70's SBs. But I was a fan for those. As much as one can be at 6 years old. The 80's, yes, but not much to cheer for. But I was solidly a Steelers fan. And the 80's were still Steelers football, we had a solid D and rushing game, just no QB. The 90's was pure Steeler football, with those Cowher teams. Fraudlin is NOT Steeler football, it just isn't. It's built on a fraud and lies.

They still made the AFCCG vs Miami in 1985 and technically the AFCCG 1980 and Superbowl winners vs the Rams.

The not so good years allowed them to restock in the draft and allowed Cowher a great head start into his tenure.


What we have now is just bleh,a few good players, not great on either side of the ball. It's just permanently middle of the pack.
 
My answer is two sentences later. I checked out emotionally and financially. Not worth it anymore to me. Others can come to their own conclusions but those are mine.
Perhaps financially would have an impact if enough people did that. They could care less about the emotion part.

Thing is, a fan like me, they don't lose anything financially from me either. I don't buy gear. Where the hell is an almost 60 year old man gonna wear Steeler gear? I'll go to a game on a rare occasion. They get very little money from me.
 
I remember in the 90's getting up before it was light out to watch the Pittsburgh news broadcasting live from Three Rivers stadium all morning before the playoff game, then into the 2000's at Heinz Field, the shots from the tailgates all morning before the playoff games, there was always that feeling that we could win the whole thing in any given playoffs, there was that excitement. This is what Tomlin has made disappear from me as a fan, I'd love to see them knock Baltimore out, but there's not real thoughts of us having any shot at winning the Super Bowl, that feeling has been gone for about 6 years now. It's not just me, it's the entire city, there hasn't been any clips of merchandise flying off the shelves across the city like those previous years.
Expectations are lowered. We know they are going to lose the first playoff game every year.
I haven't yet reached the level of apathy I have for the Pirates, the Buccos are dead to me, but similarly I figure if the owner doesn't care if they win then why should I?
I've said before that my fandom took a serious hit when Shades got a three year extension in the off-season.
I've watched every game on TV this season but just the same, the Steelers are no longer must-see TV for me.
I don't see people all over wearing black & gold and player jerseys every Friday. Locally the enthusiasm isn't there any more.
10-7 and a wild card playoff loss is the new standard every year.
 
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
I try to push the narrative towards "tomlin has to go" as often as I can. I also point out that I see us not going anywhere in the play offs, even if we make them. People are beginning to see it. This season the conversation in the media has shifted.

I also spend no money. Not since going to Baltimore to see Ben's last game (that wasn't) have I spent one dime on anything. The last time I was pumped to put the money out to go to one was the Jesse James game. That was it for me.
 
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Funny, what this guy is talking about in this video was what Cowher's team's were kind of known for as well. And that is that the Steelers have to be hanging on for dear life, backed up to the wall to get things done. When they do Super Bowl videos because they are a lock to win it all like in Cowher's time they don't even get there. When they are hanging by a thread like in 2005 they win it all.

Maybe there is hope. I am finding it very difficult to be positive, but this guy kind of got me going a little.
 
I try to push the narrative towards "tomlin has to go" as often as I can. I also point out that I see us not going anywhere in the play offs, even if we make them. People are beginning to see it. This season the conversation in the media has shifted.

I also spend no money. Not since going to Baltimore to see Ben's last game (that wasn't) have I spent one dime on anything. The last time I was pumped to put the money out to go to one was the Jesse James game. That was it for me.
Idk. With the various TV contracts the NFL has...we are talking billions. I think at this point every owner/team is basically insulated from any type of fan protest. Let's say the Steelers pissed enough fans off that only a 1/3 or so of the stadium was filled for a home game. Would it impact Rooney's bottom line that much? If at all? In the event, probably most of the seats are paid for even if nobody shows up. I think it sucks, but fans are powerless.
 
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
Embarrass Rooney. Everywhere you can..call in shows,podcasts,the web, banners in the stadium that get on TV(not vulgar or insulting, just factual) boycott businesses that sponsor the team and let that boycott be known, etc. That is the only way. It's a business and in their minds as long as they are not cellar dwellers they will put butts in seats and sell merchandise. And even if they don't sell much of that outside Pennsylvania the revenue sharing takes care of them. Ego and embarrassment though can't be revenue shared away.

Mediocrity is the standard because that's all it takes: Keep hope alive in the fans minds while you count money knowing even if the team goes nowhere you stay in the black.
 
Idk. With the various TV contracts the NFL has...we are talking billions. I think at this point every owner/team is basically insulated from any type of fan protest. Let's say the Steelers pissed enough fans off that only a 1/3 or so of the stadium was filled for a home game. Would it impact Rooney's bottom line that much? If at all? In the event, probably most of the seats are paid for even if nobody shows up. I think it sucks, but fans are powerless.
I'm not saying my plan is a slam dunk. It's all I have. Try to change the narrative. Many are doing this, and honestly, it seems to be working.
 
You know, I thought the same thing as you earlier last year but then while watching an old game of the 90's steelers I fell in love with that team all over again and I realized that It's not the game, it's the team. There really isn't anything to "love" outside of a TJ sack every once in a while. The team has the energy and personality of a wet bag.

Like Tom said, we used to get excited and feed off of each other's energy and it's gone. Flat. Nadda.
The 90's and Cowher still had that grit, that spirit, that passion. Art II has taken that all out of the equation. It's gone. Fraudlin is just that, a fraud, who doesn't stand for anything but cosmetics of going through the motions, but not truly standing for anything real. It's just make believe at this point. Has the entire NFL fallen to the same point? I don't think everyone has. But the Steelers sure the hell have. I tried to say this earlier and another poster tried to refute it. I stand by my assertion: Pittsburgh has lost its authenticity. It has. Prove me wrong tomorrow might.
 
I try to push the narrative towards "tomlin has to go" as often as I can. I also point out that I see us not going anywhere in the play offs, even if we make them. People are beginning to see it. This season the conversation in the media has shifted.

I also spend no money. Not since going to Baltimore to see Ben's last game (that wasn't) have I spent one dime on anything. The last time I was pumped to put the money out to go to one was the Jesse James game. That was it for me.
It's very similar to the Browns in that even when they make a wild card no real Browns fan believes they are going to the Super Bowl. They have just been fooled so many times. And now it seems like we are on that road as well.
 
The 90's and Cowher still had that grit, that spirit, that passion. Art II has taken that all out of the equation. It's gone. Fraudlin is just that, a fraud, who doesn't stand for anything but cosmetics of going through the motions, but not truly standing for anything real. It's just make believe at this point. Has the entire NFL fallen to the same point? I don't think everyone has. But the Steelers sure the hell have. I tried to say this earlier and another poster tried to refute it. I stand by my assertion: Pittsburgh has lost its authenticity. It has. Prove me wrong tomorrow might.
While you are correct, remember the rule changes and the way the game is officated when it comes to defense. The movie "Concussion" and the James Harrison league scapegoat/example they made of him helped take away a big part of that identity which was great, tough defense.

They could compensate for that by reinforcing the offensive identity which was a great, tough running game. For some reason though we don't care about the O-line, and other than Najee we have not had a RB that fits that identity.....if you don't fix the O-line the point is moot though.

It's easier to score points in this era than to try and stop the other guy from doing it. If you want to stop the other guy, possess the ball....that's what a great running game does for you. Tomlin is just stubborn.
 
It's very similar to the Browns in that even when they make a wild card no real Browns fan believes they are going to the Super Bowl. They have just been fooled so many times. And now it seems like we are on that road as well.
That's because we have been. How many buy into what Fraudlin is selling? As long as he doesn't put up losing seasons, his $16 mill is safe. And yet, what are the odds of him putting up a real contender, a team with a legit chance of a SB win? 0 point 0. And yet the yinzer knobs will fall for it, thinking we have a legit chance. That team we won with was not his doing and will never return under his guidance. 9 or 10 wins and then an early exit, that's all Mediocre is capable of. How many years do you have to witness it? Maybe he can do his fist pumping dance to get you excited.
 
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
Steeler fans can make their disappointment known on forums like this so that media and team begin to understand the frustration and context of the fans. When that gets loud enough, folks in the stadium yell things like "fire Canada" and, voila, the team listens.

Social media is very powerful for providing new ways to communicate and to have influence.

Does any of this force Dookie to act? Of course not, but the loudness of the fans' discontent has had recent effect. And, the voice of the fans has to be confirming some of the same inside the Steeler FO.

For example, I cannot fathom Dookie, Khan or anyone with sway in the draft process being very pleased watching turnstile Dan, without the help he needs, costing the Steelers a home playoff game and then an easier PO opponent after the Steelers drafted 2 first round LTs to fix that glaring mistake of the past several YEARS.

Even Dookie, who takes actions with the speed of a sloth, must hear the media and fans voices confirming what the last two drafts already knew.

Lastly, if the Rooneys do now consider their Steeler product as an NFL team to collect money from fans for their enrichment, then they will understand that focus groups help them better serve their customers. SN.com is a giant focus group featuring loyal, long term customers.
 
Everybody deflects when I ask this question. What can we do other than just take it? What can we do as fans that will change what is going on with the Steelers? And, if we come up with something, are we willing to see it through?
Stop spending money on the NFL. Dont go to games, dont buy Jerseys, hats, TTs nothing.
 
The 70s we were feared. Now teams want us. KC wanted to beat us to keep Bungles out and Denver in. We can't beat Ravens today! Maybe they will beat themselves. That is the only way we win. I can't see this team scoring more than 17 it's without help. They will not win this game with this group and staff. I hope I'm dead wrong. 3 turnovers by birds we might,2 we lose. 24-13 Ravens with my bet.
 
For the first time in my life, I went through a Steelers playoff week and there is absolutely zero buzz for this game. I'm not sure anyone actually believes the Steelers will or can win this game without it feel like some manufactured optimism. That's where the Steelers are as a team right now and it's kinda sad. Maybe they'll surprise us tonight.
 
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