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When a person does the wrong things with their health - horrible diet, no exercise, smoking, etc. - for 10-15 years, even though they started as a very healthy person, their health continues to crash. But, they lie to themselves, surround themselves with those who will lie with them, and the health continues to crash.

So, eventually it gets so bad that they can't function well, and the new doctor is ordered in. Emergency surgery is needed, and it is drastic, harsh, everyone notices, and many wonder if the patient will live through it.

That's what we are seeing. The prognosis depends on the new patterns and habits of the patient. Let's hope this one returns to the ways of old, where real football decisions were made. And the viruses are killed off, the amputations are done, and the cardio is brought back. Veggies and water, not ice cream and soda.
 
When a person does the wrong things with their health - horrible diet, no exercise, smoking, etc. - for 10-15 years, even though they started as a very healthy person, their health continues to crash. But, they lie to themselves, surround themselves with those who will lie with them, and the health continues to crash.

So, eventually it gets so bad that they can't function well, and the new doctor is ordered in. Emergency surgery is needed, and it is drastic, harsh, everyone notices, and many wonder if the patient will live through it.

That's what we are seeing. The prognosis depends on the new patterns and habits of the patient. Let's hope this one returns to the ways of old, where real football decisions were made. And the viruses are killed off, the amputations are done, and the cardio is brought back. Veggies and water, not ice cream and soda.
I feel a twinge of this and a feeling of "now the grown ups are in charge." I believe Kahn is his own man, a man who's been around and witnessed how we got here, the good and bad. And this just in: There has been the bad, and it's up to him to correct the bad. And he is doing just that. Is his vision superior to what we've been operating under?

Only time will tell, but my bottom dollar says "likely." We've had over a decade of seeing what the "leadership" of Shades and Colbert bought us. And I've got to say, the further we went on an odyssey with those two, the more obvious it was that that ship wasn't seaworthy. Yes, I'm gonna say it one more time: Shades Super Bowl season was not a team built with his vision; it was Cowher's. And the further we got away from Cowher's leadership, the worst our team got, even with a franchise QB.

Yes, we've only seen one year of drafting by Kahn, but this just in: It looks pretty promising. Jones, JPJ, Benton and Herbig all look like quality draft picks, and there's still hope for Washington and even Spenser Anderson becoming solid pieces. Even Colbert's "better" draft classes usually had 1 decent player and maybe one other worth starting. Colbert's/Shades' draft classes are why we are in the weak position we are in, including their last few which were really weak.

2022

- Pickett - Horrid, horrid play, immature attitude, already off the team. Huge miss.
- Pickens - Uber talented, trying to overcome immaturity.
- Leal - No one knows what they were thinking. A total tweener without a position.
- Austin - small person, zero production so far. Not even mentioned even with the team being so weak at WR.
- Connor Heyward - More Shades "brother drafting." A major fail.
- Robinson - an ILB who has failed so far.
- Oladoken - QB who's off the team.

2021

- Harris - 1st round RB who turned out not worth it. Just OK.
- Muth - TE we missed on a lot of better players for.
- Green - failed pick who was a shot in the dark at C, turned out horrible at OG as well.
- Moore - a bad LT who still stinks to this day.
- Buddy Johnson - a LB who....??
- Loudermilk - failed DLman
- Roche - DL, fail
- Norwood - DB fail
- Harvin - punter who stunk

The rest of their drafts mostly read the same way. And before anyone can say "Drafting is hard, a lot of team's picks don't work out." I know that. But anyone giving a real, hard look at Pgh's drafts know they've been mostly fail. Cowher's era did not produce such paltry drafts.
 
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I feel a twinge of this and a feeling of "now the grown ups are in charge." I believe Kahn is his own man, a man who's been around and witnessed how we got here, the good and bad. And this just in: There has been the bad, and it's up to him to correct the bad. And he is doing just that. Is his vision superior to what we've been operating under?

Only time will tell, but my bottom dollar says "likely." We've had over a decade of seeing what the "leadership" of Shades and Colbert bought us. And I've got to say, the further we went on an odyssey with those two, the more obvious it was that that ship wasn't seaworthy. Yes, I'm gonna say it one more time: Shades Super Bowl season was not a team built with his vision; it was Cowher's. And the further we got away from Cowher's leadership, the worst our team got, even with a franchise QB.

Yes, we've only seen one year of drafting by Kahn, but this just in: It looks pretty promising. Jones, JPJ, Benton and Herbig all look like quality draft picks, and there's still hope for Washington and even Spenser Anderson becoming solid pieces. Even Colbert's "better" draft classes usually had 1 decent player and maybe one other worth starting. Colbert's/Shades' draft classes are why we are in the weak position we are in, including their last few which were really weak.

2022

- Pickett - Horrid, horrid play, immature attitude, already off the team. Huge miss.
- Pickens - Uber talented, trying to overcome immaturity.
- Leal - No one knows what they were thinking. A total tweener without a position.
- Austin - small person, zero production so far. Not even mentioned even with the team being so weak at WR.
- Connor Heyward - More Shades "brother drafting." A major fail.
- Robinson - an ILB who has failed so far.
- Oladoken - QB who's off the team.

2021

- Harris - 1st round RB who turned out not worth it. Just OK.
- Muth - TE we missed on a lot of beter players for.
- Green - failed picks who was a shot in the dark at C, turned out horrible at OG as well.
- Moore - a bad LT who still stinks to this day.
- Buddy Johnson - a LB who....??
- Loudermilk - failed DLman
- Roche - DL, fail
- Norwood - DB fail
- Harvin - punter who stunk

The rest of their drafts mostly read the same way. And before anyone can say "Drafting is hard, a lot of team's picks don't work out." I know that. But anyone giving a real, hard look at Pgh's drafts know they've been mostly fail. Cowher's era did not produce such paltry drafts.
Drafting is hard. a lot of teams picks dont work out. is it "coaching"?
 
This may have made sense 2 months ago but how do you apply it today
The very ill patient is still being rushed into emergency surgery, even after a few successful surgeries. Prognosis is good, but we are not out of the weeds yet.
 
The very ill patient is still being rushed into emergency surgery, even after a few successful surgeries. Prognosis is good, but we are not out of the weeds yet.
But at least grown ups are now in charge.
 
Art absolutely needs to allow Omar and Andy to be the main folks in charge of player personnel and not Tomlin.
Tomlin can have his input as a HC should but that’s it. It’s then completely up to Omar and Andy to build this football team.
I’ll add one other thing. Art should be very cautious about extending Tomlin in the summer.
He has one season left in 24 and an option in 25 if the Steelers pick it up.
Why not hold off on the extension, see what 24 brings and if Tomlin has success in 24 pick up the option and give him the extension in 25.
I don’t see it as having to be a hurry up move.
If the team tanks in 24 under Russ then it’s time to clean up the coaching from Tomlin on down.
Just my thoughts on it.
 
I've been having the exact feeling about Colbert after what has happened this week. It seems like Kahn can't get rid of the remaining players that he drafted fast enough. I think after Cowher had his power struggle with Donahoe he had a lot of control over everything including the draft. Since Cowher retired, Colbert got the power and ran this thing into the ditch.

I'm still not thrilled with most of Tomlin's choices for assistants. But like Parcells said you can't cook the meal if you don't have the ingredients.

This is what a retooling looks like. Every other team would be bottoming out and rebuilding.
 
I've been having the exact feeling about Colbert after what has happened this week. It seems like Kahn can't get rid of the remaining players that he drafted fast enough. I think after Cowher had his power struggle with Donahoe he had a lot of control over everything including the draft. Since Cowher retired, Colbert got the power and ran this thing into the ditch.

I'm still not thrilled with most of Tomlin's choices for assistants. But like Parcells said you can't cook the meal if you don't have the ingredients.

This is what a retooling looks like. Every other team would be bottoming out and rebuilding.
Parcells was light years ahead of Shades as a football coach, person, lamp, you name it, he was superior.
 
Parcells was light years ahead of Shades as a football coach, person, lamp, you name it, he was superior.
Parcells was smart enough to hire Belicheat as an assistant. He really didn't have much success without him.
 
Remember this boys, Tomlin has had a huge amount of authority with player personnel on this football team for a long time. It was not all Kevin.
It’s been said many times that other than Art,Tomlin has had final say on player personnel.
Hopefully that has changed now.
 
Parcells was light years ahead of Shades as a football coach, person, lamp, you name it, he was superior.
Unfortunately you are correct "coaching" matters
 
Parcells was smart enough to hire Belicheat as an assistant. He really didn't have much success without him.
Parcells was a winner, period. He had the vision to hire Hoodie, and that's part of being a winner: having the vision to hire the right assistant coaches. How has Tomlin done at that job? He always hires nobodies to shield him from accountability. That's not a winning formula. That's loserville. Shades is always looking to hire schmucks. Canada anyone?
 
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I grew up in the Burgh sat on my dads knee in the golden era of Harris, greene, bradshaw since then I’ve lived on the west coast have worked from Alaska to San Diego. I watched the rise of the Seawalk-Wilson era. Wilson good qb that moved the chains. Seem to understand that was primary role of the qb, dont turn it over and MOVE THE F’ING CHAINS!!! He along with vaulted seahawk defense made Seattle win and win big! Somewhere in there he quit running the ball, moving the chains, quit taking hits and became a “fake” qb, and just started chucking the ball up turnovers be damned! the players really turned on the city of Seattle with Wilson leading the way! he demanded a trade so he could fulfill his idea of being a qb seen as the “likes of manning and Brady” problem is he’s not. He’s nifty and can move the chains thats it and thsts all! Which qb are we getting “Prima Donna” Wilson or chain moving “badger boy“ Wilson? That’s what we are going to have to find out because he isnt going to have the line, receivers, coaching, running game he had in Denver. What the Steelers did to Kenny Pickett is shameful! They drafted him then put him position to fail! The owner has to make sure the players are in a position and supported to become their best selves. Rooneys aren’t doing that! They have in the past they aren’t now. They are letting race carry the day not results. We say we are a color blind country but are we? No one understands race more than I do I’m not saying there isn’t racism in America that more needs to be done. Hell I’m for reparations! but turning a blind eye to Mike Tomlin‘s or any person’s mediocre performance isn’t going to cure racism in America! In fact I would suggest it will make it worse!!
 
I’ll add one other thing. Art should be very cautious about extending Tomlin in the summer.
He has one season left in 24 and an option in 25 if the Steelers pick it up.
Why not hold off on the extension, see what 24 brings and if Tomlin has success in 24 pick up the option and give him the extension in 25.
I don’t see it as having to be a hurry up move.
I've axed this question many times in this forum - 'what does HCMT bring to the table?'. Crickets. Seriously. Anything? Anything at all?

He inherited a Super Bowl roster with the best defense and decent offense led by an actual franchise QB. He won ONE Lombardi that could have been won with anyone standing on the sideline. Anyone at all. If the Steelers had a decent coach against an entirely depleted Packers secondary, that would have been another Lombardi. We've seen 16 years of mediocrity, nothing more. We've witnessed the destruction of a 'storied' franchise and its brand. We've watched a lot of talent wasted by a HC that doesn't understand his responsibility to develop that investment into returns. He apparently doesn't scheme. Doesn't adjust. Clearly doesn't understand Xs & Os., and evidently isn't interested in learning. It is NEVER going to change. In what lapse of reason would you extend this poser?

Artie, show us that Rooney blood courses your circulation system. Shop the poser for picks. Be a man. G'head.
 
I've axed this question many times in this forum - 'what does HCMT bring to the table?'. Crickets. Seriously. Anything? Anything at all?

He inherited a Super Bowl roster with the best defense and decent offense led by an actual franchise QB. He won ONE Lombardi that could have been won with anyone standing on the sideline. Anyone at all. If the Steelers had a decent coach against an entirely depleted Packers secondary, that would have been another Lombardi. We've seen 16 years of mediocrity, nothing more. We've witnessed the destruction of a 'storied' franchise and its brand. We've watched a lot of talent wasted by a HC that doesn't understand his responsibility to develop that investment into returns. He apparently doesn't scheme. Doesn't adjust. Clearly doesn't understand Xs & Os., and evidently isn't interested in learning. It is NEVER going to change. In what lapse of reason would you extend this poser?

Artie, show us that Rooney blood courses your circulation system. Shop the poser for picks. Be a man. G'head.
That’s what I’m saying! See how Tomlin does in 24 and if the teams flops, doesn’t make the playoffs or gets in and gets bounced one again in the opening round, then it’s time to move on.
You blow it up and conduct a thorough HC search to hire the best coach available.
There should be no hurry to extend this guy since they hold an option in 25.
 
That’s what I’m saying! See how Tomlin does in 24 and if the teams flops, doesn’t make the playoffs or gets in and gets bounced one again in the opening round, then it’s time to move on.
You blow it up and conduct a thorough HC search to hire the best coach available.
There should be no hurry to extend this guy since they hold an option in 25.
Claim that I'm wearing "black & gold" colored glasses and I will accept that as a possibility, but the handling of Pickett and the signing of Wilson has given me hope that the Steelers have finally let the "grown ups" run things from here on out. I believe they have told Tomlin "be quiet, your time is over" in running this team. There will be no more "catering to immature divas" because you are buddies with them. It's "adult time." I did not see this coming; based on what was coming out of Deuce's mouth, I thought it would be "more of the same," with a fake QB competition on it's way with Kenny being the known "winner." But then they signed Russ, and all of that changed. It appears Art was listening to the reporters, ex-players and fans: It was no longer the same old Steelers being run the same old way.
 
Claim that I'm wearing "black & gold" colored glasses and I will accept that as a possibility, but the handling of Pickett and the signing of Wilson has given me hope that the Steelers have finally let the "grown ups" run things from here on out. I believe they have told Tomlin "be quiet, your time is over" in running this team. There will be no more "catering to immature divas" because you are buddies with them. It's "adult time." I did not see this coming; based on what was coming out of Deuce's mouth, I thought it would be "more of the same," with a fake QB competition on it's way with Kenny being the known "winner." But then they signed Russ, and all of that changed. It appears Art was listening to the reporters, ex-players and fans: It was no longer the same old Steelers being run the same old way.

From what I've read, no competition was going to happen. He was going to back up Wilson. Period.

He unfortunately got drafted into the worst possible situation with an OC who should never have been hired. They also do not develop players for ****.
I'd ask for a trade too after being told completely the opposite of what actually transpired. Again in the long run it will be better for Pickett and the team. It will be interesting to see how his career goes in Philly. Those fans are bigger ******** than Steeler fans

They pulled the same crap on Mason. I have a pretty good idea of what they're trying to do from top to bottom on the team. It's pretty easy to connect the dots and actions speak louder than words.


I think they're going all in for next year. It will look good on paper, but we know how that goes.


Anyhow, what's done is done. Now that Wilson is a Steeler, I hope he puts his heart and soul into the offense.
He's playing for his next big contract as well and redemption.

He's definitely going to be under a microscope 24/7. No excuses.
 
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