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Stay at 20 and pick Barton.
Second guess is stay at 20 and mild surprise pick Brian Thomas.
Second guess is stay at 20 and mild surprise pick Brian Thomas.
True but the vast majority of them fail miserably at returning equal or superior value to what is dealt to get them. .... if you can find a cheap move up like we dod last year, its fine... and like you said, if a player is extremely uniquely talented... there is value in targeting them ... but like outside of a qb... you probably never should trade 2 first rounders to move up and take a position player...If there is a special player at a position of need I have no problem with a trade up. But this year they have multiple needs and assuming they are not going qb they are going to get the 16th best player. No need to move up. Plenty of options.
I suspect he would be gone at 51, so they may need to trade up here if the want him.I think he would be on the radar if a C isn’t picked in 1. I think Frazier goes in 2.
This is fact. There is no non qb worth an extra first round in my opinion.True but the vast majority of them fail miserably at returning equal or superior value to what is dealt to get them. .... if you can find a cheap move up like we dod last year, its fine... and like you said, if a player is extremely uniquely talented... there is value in targeting them ... but like outside of a qb... you probably never should trade 2 first rounders to move up and take a position player...
DeJean is definitely in the conversation if the draft falls poorly for the Steelers regarding OL. I forgot to mention him in my fall back senerio. I think it's unfair with some recent criticism that he's a jack of all trades but master of none. I look at him as a great addition opposite JPJ. Maybe slot this season but eventually a starting corner. I'd be surprised if he made it out of the 20s.I I am the only one who love a trade down in the first and possibly still get Cooper D. That fills holes in the secondary nicely as he can play everywhere. If we get him on a trade down we fill more holes. I even consider him at 20 as BPA if the top tackles are not there. I also don’t want to draft a guy who played predominantly left and have to have one of our tackles playing out of their comfort zone.
I understand the position flexibility aspect of picking Barton, but I want a player that is good enough at his current position to play there. Sure a number of great C’s didn’t play there in college, but I am tired of using premium picks on a player you plan to see if they can play a different position.I'm hoping its Barton, to give us flexibility for the remainder of the draft, though.
Consider that maybe he did so out of necessity? i doubt he was just moved around because he was 6th man on the OL. Though i do share that same sentiment that you have.I understand the position flexibility aspect of picking Barton, but I want a player that is good enough at his current position to play there. Sure a number of great C’s didn’t play there in college, but I am tired of using premium picks on a player you plan to see if they can play a different position.
Again, Barton did play C, they moved him to LT because he was the best lineman on the team and could play it at a high level as well. There’s no seeing to be done, he can play C.I understand the position flexibility aspect of picking Barton, but I want a player that is good enough at his current position to play there. Sure a number of great C’s didn’t play there in college, but I am tired of using premium picks on a player you plan to see if they can play a different position.
An undersized, but extremely quick middle linebacker from William and Mary.Here’s my prediction, but I need some help with the pick in my DREAM SCENARIO
We let the draft come to us as 6 QB’s get picked before the Steelers pick…The 4 top QBs go in the top ten and the Raiders get Penix Jr @ #13 & the Rams snap up Nix @#19
So many, many ways to draft under this scenario. YOUR Steelers are on the clock
With our pick we now take ________….
They've shown barely any interest in Brian Thomas Jr, the only meeting they had with him was a 15 min combine meeting, Tomlin and Kahn were not at his pro day, nor did they have him in for a visit. I do not believe he is considered by us in the first. They've shown more interest in the two Texas WRs and Ladd McConkey than Brian Thomas JrConsider that maybe he did so out of necessity? i doubt he was just moved around because he was 6th man on the OL. Though i do share that same sentiment that you have.
the more i think about it, Nourzad and Goncalves later and Brian Thomas in the 1st is ideal.
I'll talk about this before sharing my thoughts on the OP...Trade up: Rome Odunze. There are plenty of good OL prospects staying put. Odunze should be an absolute stud at WR.
Stay put: Amarius Mims. He simply has the most dots connected to the team and I think they value OT more than C.
Trade down: AD Mitchell. If they're trading down that far, they're passing on the OL they should just grab at 20 and probably missing out on the top 2-3 CBs. WR is a huge need as well.
This..............if the draft grades are equal for the more important position as in Barton projects as good as Mims then position flexibility is the plus. If not take Mims and a center later.I understand the position flexibility aspect of picking Barton, but I want a player that is good enough at his current position to play there. Sure a number of great C’s didn’t play there in college, but I am tired of using premium picks on a player you plan to see if they can play a different position.
Not exactly the same because I think Branch was the better player, but similar in terms of position in the NFL. DeJean can be an impact player as that is essentially a starter in the NFL now.DeJean is definitely in the conversation if the draft falls poorly for the Steelers regarding OL. I forgot to mention him in my fall back senerio. I think it's unfair with some recent criticism that he's a jack of all trades but master of none. I look at him as a great addition opposite JPJ. Maybe slot this season but eventually a starting corner. I'd be surprised if he made it out of the 20s.
NopeAs I read many of the replies with interest…..it’s easy to say trade up in the second for Frazier or whomever. As many here seem to suggest. But what if it costs us our first from next year draft? Are you willing to do that?
This is the wayStay at 20, I think they take Mimms. I would not, however, be shocked or upset if they took Barton.
Trade up - yes please, but not in the first. I would be just fine if they moved up in the second to get the OT or OC they did not get in the first.
Trade Down - depends on how far and how the board looks, but I would be fine getting an extra pick by dropping down about 4 picks and then using that extra pick to move up in the second as I mentioned above.
WR becomes priority after that.