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Iran

As I presume 98% of this board will. :grouphug:

Well let's look at the current situation: mostly peace in the world & a U.S. economic boom almost unheard of the past 2.5 years.

The alternative: free tuition, free healthcare, open borders, reparations & government assistance left and right, all paid for by the hardworking U.S. taxpayer. Oh and don't forget, we might have to take away some of your rights to get those things done. It's Democratic Socialism though, don't be scared.
 
Squeeze them by the balls


PRESIDENT Trump says US will impose ‘major additional sanctions’ against Iran on Monday



President Donald Trump said Saturday the United States would impose “major additional sanctions” against Iran on Monday, after calling off military strikes against the Islamic Republic over concerns about the loss of life.

Trump said he would discuss tensions between the U.S. and Iran at Camp David this weekend.

“We want to be proportionate,” Trump told reporters Saturday.

However, the president also said he has not ruled out using military force against Iran in the future.

“It’s always on the table until we get this solved,” he said. “We have a tremendously powerful military force in that area.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/22/trump-on-iran-tensions-we-want-to-be-proportionate.html
 
Squeeze them by the balls


PRESIDENT Trump says US will impose ‘major additional sanctions’ against Iran on Monday



President Donald Trump said Saturday the United States would impose “major additional sanctions” against Iran on Monday, after calling off military strikes against the Islamic Republic over concerns about the loss of life.

Trump said he would discuss tensions between the U.S. and Iran at Camp David this weekend.

“We want to be proportionate,” Trump told reporters Saturday.

However, the president also said he has not ruled out using military force against Iran in the future.

“It’s always on the table until we get this solved,” he said. “We have a tremendously powerful military force in that area.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/22/trump-on-iran-tensions-we-want-to-be-proportionate.html

That’s pretty balls. “I can bomb the **** out of you, and came 10 minutes close to doing it. For now I will squeeze you and make you suffer even more.” I love it.
 
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The only problem I have with sanctions is that they are going to hurt "normal" people and not the government / military. Plus I am sure Iran has some back channels to get some money that wont trickle down to civilians.
 
Shocking, I tell you, shocking. Trump was briefed about potential casualties well before he authorized the strikes. His version of how - and why - he walked it back is a bunch of bs. Again, I'm glad he decided against it, it was the right choice. Still, it numbs the mind how extremely dishonest the man is.

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In may ways Trump is transparent. He said he called off the attack because one drone does not equal 150 human lives, and hit Iran with a crippling cyber attack instead.

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Another good example of Liberal nonsensical logic. Trump,the most transparent President in history by far......too transparent if you listen to many of his critics of the left. At the same time those same critics also call him the most deceitful, covert, secretive President in history. You cannot be too transparent and too secretive at the same time. Doesn't work. He's also the dumbest President in history while at the same time being a genius criminal mastermind to the left.

Basically it all translates too is: we don't like what he says. Ask a Liberal how exactly Trump obstructed justice during this Russia witch hunt while at the same time allowing every person out to get him continue their investigations without interfering. You will get a lot of stammering and bullshit with no reasoning that makes any sense. We don't like him, is the only reason at the heart of it. Liberals who despise Trump are like frustrated children wildly lashing out in all directions with no real idea why.
 
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Another good example of Liberal nonsensical logic. Trump,the most transparent President in history by far......too transparent if you listen to many of his critics of the left. At the same time those same critics also call him the most deceitful, covert, secretive President in history. You cannot be too transparent and too secretive at the same time. Doesn't work. He's also the dumbest President in history while at the same time being a genius criminal mastermind to the left.

Basically it all translates too is: we don't like what he says. Ask a Liberal how exactly Trump obstructed justice during this Russia witch hunt while at the same time allowing every person out to get him continue their investigations without interfering. You will get a lot of stammering and bullshit with no reasoning that makes any sense. We don't like him, is the only reason at the heart of it. Liberals who despise Trump are like frustrated children wildly lashing out in all directions with no real idea why.

W was an idiot and criminal genius that planned 9/11 and Katrina. Even blew up a levee.
 
As will I presume 98% of this board. :grouphug:

Please give me an alternative, based on their policy beliefs and philosophy, I'll listen, if emotion is left out of it.

Worked with someone that voted for Bill Clinton because he had better hair than HW.....that kind of stuff.

There are a thousand democrats running, give me your top 3 to consider and why. Because they aren't Trump doesn't count.. Thanks.
 
Ask a Liberal how exactly Trump obstructed justice during this Russia witch hunt while at the same time allowing every person out to get him continue their investigations without interfering. You will get a lot of stammering and bullshit with no reasoning that makes any sense. We don't like him, is the only reason at the heart of it. Liberals who despise Trump are like frustrated children wildly lashing out in all directions with no real idea why.

Nonsense. Tibs will be along shortly with a 15 bullet point presentation of how Trump obstructed, just that the Mueller investigation; with their 22 months, 2800+ subpoenas, 500+ witness testimonies etc. weren't thorough enough.
 
Please give me an alternative, based on their policy beliefs and philosophy, I'll listen, if emotion is left out of it.

Worked with someone that voted for Bill Clinton because he had better hair than HW.....that kind of stuff.

There are a thousand democrats running, give me your top 3 to consider and why. Because they aren't Trump doesn't count.. Thanks.

****, that’s their new shirt. Not trump. Lol
 
U.N. officials: U.S. planning a 'tactical assault' in Iran
https://www.jpost.com/printarticle.aspx?id=592832




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I dunno. Between this and delaying the immigrant roundup, I think Trump might be becoming an establishment politician. I can wait for the rationalization of that!
 
I dunno. Between this and delaying the immigrant roundup, I think Trump might be becoming an establishment politician. I can wait for the rationalization of that!

Close. Trump is becoming the New Establishment while Dims and Rinos are becoming the outsiders who do not represent pro-American citizens. Next year’s election will be epic.
 
I dunno. Between this and delaying the immigrant roundup, I think Trump might be becoming an establishment politician. I can wait for the rationalization of that!

Funny I had the exact opposite reaction on the whole matter. I thought "Oh **** he's got them in a perfect spot now!" He's thrown them a bone and agreed to stop the raids based on what Pelosi and the Dems are asking him to do. His very next move is going to stand in front of them (along with the press) and go "Ok the raids are off for two weeks like you wanted, either you work with me to get a deal done to solve the border crisis, or let the raiding parties begin and I'll make sure everyone knows you could have stopped them if you wanted to."
 
Breaking News

President Trump signs executive order delivering 'hard-hitting' sanctions against Iran
President Trump on Monday signed an executive order issuing what he referred to as “hard-hitting” sanctions on Iran, saying it would deny Iran’s supreme leader access to financial instruments.


Muh legacy!
 
Mass protests against their government, like what happened in Hong Kong can go a long way.
 
The level the recent sanctions by Trump/America on Iran has had on their economy just highlights to me how lenient the Obama administration was on Iran to start with.

Sounds to me like what we should really be focusing on isn't the fact Iran is now a caged animal again and being pushed into a corner, but the fact this same animal was let loose by the Obama foreign policy machine to reign terror on the whole region. Sounds like almost all the economic relief Iran got by "negotiating" with Obama's statehouse went to funding terror and spreading their Shia extremism and the moment it was taken away, their economy is collapsing again.

Maybe if they had taken the economic relief while they had it and spent it on their people and infrastructure, they wouldn't be so effected, but we all know that didn't happen. They decided to spend the money to get their hands dirty in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

I'm 100% in favor of keeping the pressure on and ratcheting it up as much as possible. Iran is a big problem. Their influence over Iraq is real and a major, major concern to peace in the region. The conflicts they are funding in Syria and Yemen have cost thousands of lives. Their money directly goes to sleeper cells of terrorist activity against western targets. There is no doubt about this based just on what has transpired in the region over the last 5 years (sine Obama release and gave them $140 billion dollars as part of the Iran treaty).

The only thing to get them back to the table is heavy sanctions and likely an air strike or two. We need a completely new agreement with them that not only restricts nuclear proliferation but also eliminates their ability to fund Shia-backed civil wars throughout the region.

Oh.... and **** Obama. What a ******* mess he left. His weak *** apology tour and "everyone loves me" bending over to terrorists is the worst foreign policy era in my lifetime.
 
Trump tweet:

“Iran’s very ignorant and insulting statement, put out today, only shows that they do not understand reality,” Trump said in a late morning tweet. “Any attack by Iran on anything American will be met with great and overwhelming force. In some areas, overwhelming will mean obliteration. No More John Kerry & Obama!”

Awesome.
 
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