Iran

[Hypocycloids]

I support people who expose attempted insurrection and lies about the cause of a war. You support attempted insurrection and being lied to about the cause of a war.

And “No New Wars” Trump changed, Dim.

In taking your sensationalizing down a notch…it wasn’t an insurrection, nor were we “lied to”.

Yes Trump did say no new wars. So what are you expecting from us?
You clinging to this would benefit you more if you could name one president that was able to keep all his campaign promises.

 

[Steelr4evr]

wharz yer herow nowz?

Someone put some cash in his pocket. Nobody turnscoat like that after completing stating the opposite,which was true.


I think he was leaking info he shouldn't have,and was cut off because of it.

It's not hard to test someone's integrity and loyalty with bait. You'll find out real quick who is worthy of trust.

It's just one big game of political posturing for power. That's all that matters.

A third viable party is really needed to just wreck this game or we will end up in some whacked out one party rule we will have to fight our way out of.


I can't imagine what the next 20-30 years is going to look like.

 

[Steelr4evr]

it makes sense to me since as the text that you didnt read states he was a known leaker.

if you intend to keep something secret, you tend to not let those who have proven the inability to retain a secret as a secret from knowing.

Most people go to jail for **** like that. Nowadays they're allowed to resign.

 

[Djfan]

I can't imagine what the next 20-30 years is going to look like.

I can. Not good.

 

[Troglodyte]

it makes sense to me since as the text that you didnt read states he was a known leaker.

Strange that Trump didn’t fire him.

if you intend to keep something secret, you tend to not let those who have proven the inability to retain a secret as a secret from knowing.

Or you fire him. Especially when he’s the head of National Counterterrorism Center.

 

[xjx]

Democrats will pay anyone to say anything if it makes Trump look bad. Cassidy Hutchinson spoke ( for money) and got coaching from Liz Cheney to say orange man bad. It also sounds like she was passed around like the little hooker that she is.

 

[Troglodyte]

Another convenient cop out when you get your *** handed too you! LOVE IT!!!!

Like I’m going to take that list seriously.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

The ignorance is astounding. How some people make it through life being this stupid and gullible is beyond me,but here we are.

Not sure if you're old enough to remember Jay Leno hosting the tonight show. He would do a segment called jaywalking, going out on the street and asking passerby's common questions which for most would be easy to answer. However, their answers were frightenly stupid. Most of those questions were harmless unlike the magnitude of those asked today. People in general are just as stupid today, but the stakes are higher.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Democrats will pay anyone to say anything if it makes Trump look bad. Cassidy Hutchinson spoke ( for money) and got coaching from Liz Cheney to say orange man bad. It also sounds like she was passed around like the little hooker that she is.

 

[Sarge]

if you intend to keep something secret, you tend to not let those who have proven the inability to retain a secret as a secret from knowing.

It's why Trump doesn't tell congressional democrats of pending military action. The whole world would know.

 

[Tibs]

you never answered me - are you ok with an extreme Muslim nuclear Iran quite literally next door to where you live, you work, your kids go to school and play?

Thank you for your thoughtful, genuine concern for me and my family. I appreciate it. All three of our twenty-year-old kids have moved to Paris over the past few years, where they are living, working, and putting themselves through college. We're visiting them tomorrow for a long-weekend trip, will be awesome to return to the City of Lights. It's been a while, since all five of us were in the same place at the same time.

I was relatively content with the deal we had with Iran, with IAEA on the ground, with full, unfettered access, and rigorous limitations in place regarding enriched uranium. Naturally, Trump came along and recklessly tore that up, and now has been spooked into this military conflict with Iran by Israel and Netanyahu, who's been waiting for decades to finally have a U.S. President unhinged enough to carry out a unilateral attack. Trump has gotten us into a quagmire, stepped into the hornet's nest, with Hormuz transit in jeopardy, gas and oil prices skyrocketing, the world economy on the brink of major upheaval. Can't say it wasn't expected.

Even worse, Iran's regime remains intact, its military able to carry out missile and drone attacks on Israel, US bases and radar installations, and allied Gulf States. Total chaos has ensued, as expected. International shipping is in shambles, as expected.

The nuclear threat on the minds of those on the European continent happens to be coming from Mother Russia, not Iran, at the moment; a military power which has shown no hesitation to attack its neighbors at the drop of a dime.

I'll be back in California soon, a bit further out of reach from both Russian and Iranian nuclear warheads, but frankly, with nukes, it doesn't really matter where you are in the world, it's all bad. Stay safe, my man.

 

[steel dino]

Not sure if you're old enough to remember Jay Leno hosting the tonight show. He would do a segment called jaywalking, going out on the street and asking passerby's common questions which for most would be easy to answer. However, their answers were frightenly stupid. Most of those questions were harmless unlike the magnitude of those asked today. People in general are just as stupid today, but the stakes are higher.

Yeah, I remember it always entertaining!
Jesse Waters on Fox has a show and he has someone hit the streets and ask questions also…
It’s actually sad and funny at the same time… and sometimes it’s downright scary, especially some of the comments from the young people… just wow!

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Silence equals acquiescence.

You further insist on demonstrating your ignorance. You think this rule applies always, universally. Wrong.

Silence does not always equal acquiescence. While silence can imply consent in specific legal or contractual scenarios—particularly with prior dealings or when a response is required—it is not a universal rule

In many legal and social contexts, inaction is not acceptance, as silence can stem from reasons other than agreement.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

An unhinged long list of deflections! I LOVE IT!!!!

No, it was an exposure of your selective, politically-induced outrage. You've already forgotten your original statement. "I support people who expose attempted insurrection and lies"

You didn't say you support THIS person who exposed X. You said you support PEOPLE who expose X.

I demonstrated this statement is a blatant lie. You do not.

Next?

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

And it makes sense to you that he wasn’t in the room?

If you would only bother to read what is shared with you.

It makes 100% sense. From above:

It gets worse. A senior administration official told Fox News that Kent was a known leaker who had been cut out of the president's intelligence briefings months ago. He wasn't a whistleblower with inside knowledge. He was already on the outside looking in — and the administration knew it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Like I’m going to take that list seriously.

How could you? You didn't even read it.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Yeah, I remember it always entertaining!
Jesse Waters on Fox has a show and he has someone hit the streets and ask questions also…
It’s actually sad and funny at the same time… and sometimes it’s downright scary, especially some of the comments from the young people… just wow!

Jesse got promoted, and now "Johnny" does those on the streets interviews. Hysterical and absolutely frightening at the same time.

 

[Superman]

Thank you for your thoughtful, genuine concern for me and my family. I appreciate it. All three of our twenty-year-old kids have moved to Paris over the past few years, where they are living, working, and putting themselves through college. We're visiting them tomorrow for a long-weekend trip, will be awesome to return to the City of Lights. It's been a while, since all five of us were in the same place at the same time.

I was relatively content with the deal we had with Iran, with IAEA on the ground, with full, unfettered access, and rigorous limitations in place regarding enriched uranium. Naturally, Trump came along and recklessly tore that up, and now has been spooked into this military conflict with Iran by Israel and Netanyahu, who's been waiting for decades to finally have a U.S. President unhinged enough to carry out a unilateral attack. Trump has gotten us into a quagmire, stepped into the hornet's nest, with Hormuz transit in jeopardy, gas and oil prices skyrocketing, the world economy on the brink of major upheaval. Can't say it wasn't expected.

Even worse, Iran's regime remains intact, its military able to carry out missile and drone attacks on Israel, US bases and radar installations, and allied Gulf States. Total chaos has ensued, as expected. International shipping is in shambles, as expected.

The nuclear threat on the minds of those on the European continent happens to be coming from Mother Russia, not Iran, at the moment; a military power which has shown no hesitation to attack its neighbors at the drop of a dime.

I'll be back in California soon, a bit further out of reach from both Russian and Iranian nuclear warheads, but frankly, with nukes, it doesn't really matter where you are in the world, it's all bad. Stay safe, my man.

well, you certainly managed to downplay a fervent Muslim country with deep oil pockets seeking to establish itself as a major player in the nuclear world, and discard any nervousness that could result from that. As has been shown - this current regime that you romanticize as remaining intact and able to continue operating, has been the driver behind numerous terror attacks across the world. It shouldn't even take a double digit IQ to imagine what would happen if they were to have their own nukes.

The nuclear deal Obama signed with Iran was just for show. I'm sure we all wanted to take the Iranian regime for their word - THIS TIME - but they proved over and over again that they could not be trusted. They do not need nuclear energy to keep the lights on. They are one of the largest oil exporting countries in the world at 1.6 million barrels per day, and we all know oil is used for electricity.

ah, but the IAEA was playing watchdog on their nuclear program and Iran was open, right?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-stored-highly-enriched-uranium-underground-site-iaea-report-says-2026-02-27/

VIENNA, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The U.N. nuclear watchdog issued a confidential report on Friday urging Iran to let it inspect all its nuclear sites and pointing at Isfahan as a place of interest because of a new enrichment plant and near-bomb-grade uranium that was stored there.

The report was sent to members of the International Atomic Energy Agency ahead of a quarterly meeting next week of its 35-country board, amid nuclear talks between the United States and Iran, the latest round of which was held on Thursday with no breakthrough.

So, being a business-minded person, @Tibs - you know that for something to get included in a report there most likely were discussions before. Either via phone, email, or whatever passes for communication in that 5th world country that exports 1.6 million barrels of oil per day.

because, as that link shows, there's more...

The United States and Israel bombed Iranian nuclear sites last June, and Iran has since refused to show what happened to its stockpile of highly enriched uranium or allow IAEA inspectors access to sites where enrichment took place.

Regardless of our POTUS, Iran was playing games with the IAEA. So much so that they were forced to report it.

While no one wants to see American troops put in harm's way, it is what they are trained for. The loss of any American troop's life in that shitthole country is tragic. Yet we were forced to play World Cop because no other country would - except Israel.

I doubt Israel would need our help to wipe that regime off the planet. They've already shown they will do what they have to or want to, regardless of who is eating ice cream at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

So what this comes down to is you're either pro-nuclear Iran or con-nuclear Iran.

No, @IndySteel that didnt read "pro nuking Iran". Though, I've often said - if they want nukes, we could lob some over and let them play catch.

Aside from all that - were you ignoring the reports of the Iranian regime wantonly killing its own people just recently? Being a hard core liberal, are you accepting the brutality shown to women and children by the alleged "men" of that regime?

Something had to be done at some point. It was only going to get worse and worse.

 

[Superman]

Strange that Trump didn’t fire him.

Or you fire him. Especially when he’s the head of National Counterterrorism Center.

or, and this is where it take someone with the IQ above a crayon - you use that person as an asset for as long as you can. if you know he's leaking ****, you feed him misinformation. You only cut him out when he's of no longer use to you. and, he was of no longer use, so he was cut out like the cancer he proved himself to be.

 

[IndySteel]

So what this comes down to is you're either pro-nuclear Iran or con-nuclear Iran.

No, @IndySteel that didnt read "pro nuking Iran".

Dammit!

 

[Steelr4evr]

Not sure if you're old enough to remember Jay Leno hosting the tonight show. He would do a segment called jaywalking, going out on the street and asking passerby's common questions which for most would be easy to answer. However, their answers were frightenly stupid. Most of those questions were harmless unlike the magnitude of those asked today. People in general are just as stupid today, but the stakes are higher.

Oh yes I certainly do. That was so mind boggling, I thought it was fake. August 1971 here..lol. I unfortunately have a memory that goes back to about 3 years old on.

I don't have any real stupid no common sense folks in my immediate family. Well maybe my sister lacks some common sense,but she's in the 150's in IQ and a book smart nerd weirdo, but not a liberal!

My youngest boy who is 9 tested in the low 140's. That kid has more common sense than 10 people combined. It's like talking to an adult. We discuss world events regularly. He's way smarter than me and a memory like a steel trap. He knows it too...lol

So that brings me back to just marveling at how people can be so oblivious in the world.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

or, and this is where it take someone with the IQ above a crayon - you use that person as an asset for as long as you can. if you know he's leaking ****, you feed him misinformation. You only cut him out when he's of no longer use to you. and, he was of no longer use, so he was cut out like the cancer he proved himself to be.

"I'll repeat, then he should have fired him!!!" //JFCflog

He misses that a large % of resignations are in fact firings where the "fired" are given the opportunity to resign v being fired.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Well, that's a shame, Zona. I'd love to get your take, at face value, without resorting to whataboutism, eg. bringing up past administrations, or how lame Biden was as a President, as I agree with you wholeheartedly on that.

I seem to recall Trump stating over and over how he was going to be the President of Peace, that Kamala was the warhawk, along with the RINOs, that he'd end the forever wars in the Middle East, etc. Funny how things turned on a dime of late, and here we are, policing the world, launching military attacks costing taxpayers some $2 billion per day(!), threatening allies, breaking decades-long alliances. Have you listened to a single press conference held by Pete Hegseth lately? The guy is likely a war criminal at this point, talking about offering "no quarter" to enemies, sowing death and destruction from above, just a foaming-at-the-mouth, deranged lunatic in charge of our military. And Trump seems perfectly aligned with it.

I dunno, maybe all of this seems perfectly normal to you. It sure doesn't to me.

Stifle yourself Tibs.
What seems perfectly normal is your typical hyperbole, aggrandizing , sensationalizing, whatever term you’d like to use. No post of yours can live without it.
And very often sprinkled with misinformation.

Actually Trump called Liz Cheney a warhawk not Harris.
Trump is indeed keeping his promise to end wars IN the Middle East….meaning to end wars between neighboring countries which must involve ending the potential threat of war (Iran).
And how best could that be accomplished?
You’re witnessing it right now.

Trump had also brokered a 20 point peace plan with Hamas and Israel, which I have yet to hear you give him credit for.
There is no other option for Iran other than by military force.

And then your…Pete Hegseth is a “war criminal” bit of rhetoric. Oh the humanity.
No officer received such “no quarter” orders from Hegseth so calm down.
“No Quarter” was clearly tough talk meant to impress upon the fact that the US military wasn’t gonna go half a$$. We are gonna unleash hell. No lightening up until the job is done.
Similar to saying “we’re gonna kill, or annihilate, or take no prisoners when we play the Browns.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Like I’m going to take that list seriously.

Exactly. When was the last time you’ve taken facts seriously?

 

[Tibs]

Hey, Supe. Thanks for the civil, measured response.

well, you certainly managed to downplay a fervent Muslim country with deep oil pockets seeking to establish itself as a major player in the nuclear world, and discard any nervousness that could result from that. As has been shown - this current regime that you romanticize as remaining intact and able to continue operating, has been the driver behind numerous terror attacks across the world. It shouldn't even take a double digit IQ to imagine what would happen if they were to have their own nukes.

Here is Trump's Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, from today's hearing on the Hill.

In a written version of her opening statement, Gabbard said Iran's nuclear enrichment program had been "obliterated" in 2025 strikes, and that the regime had not resumed enrichment activities.

Seems pretty clear to me. Netanyahu evidently convinced Trump otherwise, and spooked him into action.

In response to this quip, "this current regime that you romanticize as remaining intact and able to continue operating," I'm not romanticizing anything. I'd love to see this brutal Iranian regime overthrown, with a return to some semblance of democracy, and normalcy, for the once, mostly secular Persian nation, before they were overrun by fanatical Muslims.

I am simply pointing out two things... that to this day, missiles and drones continue to land in Israel and neighboring states, as the Iranians decentralized military command years ago, preparing for such an invasion. And the Straight of Hormuz is under constant threat, completely shutting down safe passage for US & allied tankers and cargo ships. This is obviously untenable.

As far as the Iranian regime "remaining intact," I'm not saying that, Tulsi Gabbard is.

Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard told senators that the Iranian regime "appears to be intact but largely degraded" by ongoing U.S. and Israeli strikes.

Largely degraded? Yes. Appears to be intact? Yes.

There's much more heavy lifting to do, likely including boots on the ground, if Trump truly wants to root out this regime once and for all.

He would have been much better off building a coalition within NATO beforehand, bringing allies onboard, as was done in Iraq and Afghanistan, then proceed with military operations. Now he's looking like a fool, trying to drum up help and support after the fact, particularly after he's spent months on end mocking, insulting and infuriating our allies across the pond with his reckless, bellicose comments.

I pray, for the whole lot of us, that he's somehow able to regain control of the situation and see things through, to avoid the plethora of negative outcomes that military and foreign policy experts have been pontificating on for years, if not decades.