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Iran

No one wants to see another drawn out campaign in the middle east. What appears to be different in the case of Iran is their seemingly lack of ability to resupply their military arsenals. After less than a week they no longer have any air support or much of a navy left.

I'm cautiously optimistic that this can get done reasonably quickly if the majority of the citizens there are willing to move toward changing their lives and their country.
 
oneforthebus said:
No, I haven't proposed we attack anyone. Are Saudi Arabia Afghanistan and Sudan developing nukes and long range missiles? Do they have an overwhelming majority population that wants a secular government and is begging for our assistance in liberating them?
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Don't tell pFlog, but them nice Talibanis did the US a solid and pecked at Pakistan just before Tehran got hit, giving the two most likely nations to sympathize with Iran something else to worry about whilst Iran was getting sussed out.

Kudos to whichever American/Israeli asset got that done.
 
oneforthebus said:
Iran didn't have nukes yet, it's nuclear capability was damaged, but could be revived. Refusal to allow inspections is a pretty good indicator that they were once again, on the road to restart enriching uranium. Reports are that they refused to rule out enriching uranium or end their long range missile program. The "suddenness" also has something to do with the fact that Iranians are attempting to rise up against their government and being slaughtered by the tens of thousands, as has been pointed out to you numerous times but you just ignore that.

So your argument seems to be that since this problem has been ignored and enabled for decades, it's wrong to stop ignoring it and enabling it at some point? Because it's too "sudden"?
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They have attempted to rise up four other times since 2007, with disagreement over whether the 2025-26 protests have been unprecedented in scale or not. They’ll also have to be armed and trained so is Israel going to handle that?
 
ZonaBurgh said:
No one wants to see another drawn out campaign in the middle east. What appears to be different in the case of Iran is their seemingly lack of ability to resupply their military arsenals. After less than a week they no longer have any air support or much of a navy left.

I'm cautiously optimistic that this can get done reasonably quickly if the majority of the citizens there are willing to move toward changing their lives and their country.
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Thats the thing, the Iranian regime, or what’s left of it, does not have the support of most of the citizens.
 
Troglodyte said:
They have attempted to rise up four other times since 2007, with disagreement over whether the 2025-26 protests have been unprecedented in scale or not. They’ll also have to be armed and trained so is Israel going to handle that?
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Again, what's your point? We didn't help them before so we shouldn't help them now?

I hope we have a plan for what's to come next. As i have mentioned several times.
 
oneforthebus said:
Again, what's your point? We didn't help them before so we shouldn't help them now?

I hope we have a plan for what's to come next. As i have mentioned several times.
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Maybe I just don’t recall the criticism of Trump when he campaigned on “no new wars”. Seemed like everyone was on board with that.
 
oneforthebus said:
Again, what's your point? We didn't help them before so we shouldn't help them now?

I hope we have a plan for what's to come next. As i have mentioned several times.
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No one is reporting this, but ypu can bet that DJT will start trading with a new and improved government ASAP.
 
Troglodyte said:
Maybe I just don’t recall the criticism of Trump when he campaigned on “no new wars”. Seemed like everyone was on board with that.
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Yeah, so this is not our war. We destroyed them militarily and will leave most of it for others.
 
Troglodyte said:
Maybe I just don’t recall the criticism of Trump when he campaigned on “no new wars”. Seemed like everyone was on board with that.
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Well there are lots of Republicans who agree with you that this is a broken promise. I've never been an isolationist, no one likes wars, I certainly hope we don't put troops on the ground. Sometimes military intervention is necessary to prevent worse outcomes.
 
Troglodyte said:
They have attempted to rise up four other times since 2007, with disagreement over whether the 2025-26 protests have been unprecedented in scale or not. They’ll also have to be armed and trained so is Israel going to handle that?
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In my humble opinion, I would ask and allow the neighboring Arab countries led by Saudi Arabia, to handle the hands-on military support and coordination with the Iranians to take control of their country.
I don’t believe the United States or Israel should be hands-on/boots on the ground with that effort. We should definitely support with ordinance and coordination of activities though…
 
Troglodyte said:
Again. It’s just stupid and exhausting with you. But a few things.
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Continual beat downs do tend to be exhausting for the victim. We are in agreement.

Troglodyte said:
The administration can’t give a straight, consistent answer on why they attacked Iran.
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This is YOUR opinion. Not mine.

But let me remind you again of your selective outrage. You had no straight consistent answers on Obama's drone war, nor his 7 month long conflict in Libya, and Biden's support of Ukraine was so all over the map confusing and corrupt, it made one's eyes roll. Nary a peep from ye.

All you do is political scalp hunt. It's all you do.

Troglodyte said:
You said Obama DONATED debt. That simply doesn’t make sense and the hostages were released decades prior to him paying the debt.
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More proof that after 2 posts, you become completely and utterly discombobulated. Here is my exact quote: "...another $1.7Billion donation to Iran disguised as the Democratic attempt to initiate regime change." I did not say he donated debt.

And if you took the history lesson, the money was owed the former government of Iran, NOT the IRGC. That's the primary reason it was withheld so long, but you don't seem to grasp this. Obama did not have to cave and give it back with $1.3B in interest tacked on. So yes, I call it a donation. He gave money to Iran he didn't have to.

Troglodyte said:
I’m not alone on wanting answers from Bondi, several republicans just voted to subpoena her. You must be disappointed in them.
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I'd like answers too. But you peruse these threads with your head so far up your fat ***, you fail to see the innumerable comments from me and those like me who have said again and again we want to see the list (if there is one), we want it released, and we want heads to roll regardless their political affiliation.

I have no hope at all it will stick with you this time either. So a page or two from now, I'll need remind you again.

It's ok, Daddy's not going anywhere.
 
oneforthebus said:
Well there are lots of Republicans who agree with you that this is a broken promise. I've never been an isolationist, no one likes wars, I certainly hope we don't put troops on the ground. Sometimes military intervention is necessary to prevent worse outcomes.
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Same...
I do want to point out that neither Russia nor China were actively helping Iran get nukes, despite both having the ability to do so and both actively helping them circumvent sanctions.. which means neither really want them to have them... they also havent interviewed in these attacks... i think everyone understands they are a huge problem... even their closest allies that arent all but controlled by them...
 
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
But let me remind you again of your selective outrage. You had no straight consistent answers on Obama's drone war, nor his 7 month long conflict in Libya, and Biden's support of Ukraine was so all over the map confusing and corrupt, it made one's eyes roll. Nary a peep from ye.

All you do is political scalp hunt. It's all you do.
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Of all the false equivalencies!
Tim Steelersfan said:
Here is my exact quote: "...another $1.7Billion donation to Iran disguised as the Democratic attempt to initiate regime change." I did not say he donated debt. So yes, I call it a donation.
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You acknowledged it was debt and you called it a donation, but you did not say he donated debt. WTF?
Tim Steelersfan said:
I'd like answers too. But you peruse these threads with your head so far up your fat ***, you fail to see the innumerable comments from me and those like me who have said again and again we want to see the list (if there is one), we want it released, and we want heads to roll regardless their political affiliation.
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Sure, Tim. Strange you defended Bondi for redacting names she shouldnt have redacted by incorrectly asserting that all names were being redacted.
 
You would think that if anything could bring the 2 parties together other than an attack on our soil, would be a campaign to eliminate the chance that Iran gets a nuke.
But no.
 
BLITZ said:
You would think that if anything could bring the 2 parties together other than an attack on our soil, would be a campaign to eliminate the chance that Iran gets a nuke.
But no.
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Based on all the evidence, it's clear that nothing, and I mean nothing matters other than Trump, Trump, Trump. The political left is either completely brainwashed by higher education and the MSM or just insane, maybe both. Facts and reasoning elude them and a conversation with most degrades into name calling.
 
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